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Scouts to no longer bring penknives on camping trips [UK]
The Telegraph | 06 Sep 2009 | Chris Irvine

Posted on 09/07/2009 6:29:09 AM PDT by Daffynition

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To: cyclotic

Oh the horror!! :0


41 posted on 09/07/2009 7:48:09 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

The day before Christmas, i was at the checkout at Walgreen. The clerk asked if I needed any last minute batteries. I looked at her and said “I’ve got four kids and none of them are getting stuff that needs batteries. In fact, I bought my boys knives and guns for Christmas.”

I got the full hands on hips, eye roll, suck in the breath and “you should be ashamed of yourself” treatment.

I explained that it was my duty as a father to teach my kids the proper safe use of such tools. She backed off rather quickly and actually agreed with me.


42 posted on 09/07/2009 7:52:26 AM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: Daffynition

Time for a new poster.
LEADERSHIP
Sucking the fun out of everything.


43 posted on 09/07/2009 7:55:27 AM PDT by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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44 posted on 09/07/2009 7:59:00 AM PDT by Daffynition (A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.)
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To: Daffynition

What exactly is the number of Boy Scouts involved in these attacks?
I have a feeling the number is zero.


45 posted on 09/07/2009 8:07:20 AM PDT by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Sounds like a fine woman. I am sure you taught the lads well.


46 posted on 09/07/2009 8:08:10 AM PDT by packrat35 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.- M Thatcher)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I pray you’re right friend ... the remnant of which you are a part and your brother hold-outs in America are all that’s left of the once mighty anglo-american alliance.


47 posted on 09/07/2009 8:29:50 AM PDT by jtal
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To: kingu; All
Actually the US government anti-knife policy has started already. Through US Custom regulations they are trying to stop manufacture of many folding knives. Something about the easier to open ones but hey a bureaucrat has to start somewhere.
48 posted on 09/07/2009 8:30:00 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: cyclotic

My 6 & 4 year old grand kids’ guns need batteries for the laser sights.


49 posted on 09/07/2009 8:32:12 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: FatherofFive

Your post got me wondering about the girl scouts here in the US, so I googled them up. Turns out they’ve really nothing to do with scouting anymore. Instead, they look like they’ve been an experimental ground for Obama’s brown shirts. All kinds of fake ‘journeys’ that have to do with activism to make this sorry country of ours a better place.

Or how about this, the YWCA in May voted with 91% approval to make this their new mission statement:

“YWCA is dedicated to eliminating racism, empowering women and promoting peace, justice, freedom and dignity for all.”


50 posted on 09/07/2009 8:36:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Colvin

You’re probably right.

And if someone is cut/injured, isn’t it part of scouting to treat injuries and learn emergency aid in difficult situations? Geesh.


51 posted on 09/07/2009 8:39:49 AM PDT by Daffynition (A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.)
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To: Daffynition
"Sadly, there is now confusion about when a Scout is allowed to carry a knife," he wrote. "The series of high-profile fatal stabbings [has] highlighted a growing knife culture in the UK.

Unless the scouts are committing the acts of knife violence, how can banning them from carrying knives stop the violence?

52 posted on 09/07/2009 9:02:12 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: DieHard the Hunter
It is too bad the Scout leaders in the UK are afraid of their Scouts.

I was not a scout but I have carried a pocket knife since I was six. My dad carries one. My mom carries one.

A pocket knife is a useful tool.

53 posted on 09/07/2009 9:07:57 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: cyclotic
“I’ve got four kids and none of them are getting stuff that needs batteries. In fact, I bought my boys knives and guns for Christmas.”

No Walky-talkys?

(Do they even still make those?)

54 posted on 09/07/2009 9:12:42 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: Daffynition

Ouch. This brings back painful memories from Boy Scouts. That is, our particularly hardcore group of scoutmasters had a profoundly effective way of stimulating boys to advance in the ranks on field trips.

The youngest ones would be whittling with pocket knives, and so soon learned the value of good steel compared to the pot metal typically used in cheap blades. Their “graduation” to a sheath knife actually meant something. From there, the big push was to First Class, where they would use hatchets and axes. A lot.

Life rank Scouts finally hit it big by “getting” to use chainsaws. Clearing and harvesting cords of mesquite wood to raise money for the troop. A long weekend of harvesting wood could pay for the much of the rest of the year’s activities.

And a lot of sore muscles. But it was worth it.


55 posted on 09/07/2009 9:13:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Grizzled Bear

Liberalspeak for “I” know what is good you.


56 posted on 09/07/2009 9:13:59 AM PDT by Daffynition (A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good good memories. I remember dad never ventured off a road without his sheath knife and Colt Woodsman.

I hope somewhere, somehow, scoutmasters are continuing and passing down this knowledge. Gutting and skinning animals, comes to mind too.


57 posted on 09/07/2009 9:19:28 AM PDT by Daffynition (A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.)
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To: Ransomed
“Scouting helps to prepare young people with valuable life skills, while keeping them safe by not carrying knives.”

Next, Scouting will be keeping them safe by not letting them carry pointy sticks or dangerous strings (which could, of course, be used as a garrote). Soon belts, neckerchiefs, and laced shoes will be removed from the uniform. And heavy hiking boots could be thrown, so Scouts will be restricted to thongs (flip-flops) and trainers less than a given weight. Most other Boy Scout kit will need to go as well, that being heavy, hard, pointy, or loud. The British Boy Scouts will become the Girl Scouts... but then what's to be done about needlepoint?

Lord Baden-Powell must be spinning in his grave.

58 posted on 09/07/2009 9:58:10 AM PDT by GulchBound (Who owns you?)
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To: GulchBound

Also, we must never let the secret of fire-making be propagated amonst the masses lest we lose rich eco-systems to man’s unquenchable lust for warmth and roasted weiners. Instead, scouts will spend more time indoors knitting plush baby dolls (with blunt knitting needles) that they can pretend to nurse in sympathy to the matriarchal ideal.

King of the Hill had an episode about the pussification of outdoor boys clubs, it was pretty classic.

Freegards


59 posted on 09/07/2009 11:49:26 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Cold Heart
They're trying to forbid the importation of quick action knives, which the 2nd wouldn't stop, but which certainly could be challenged in the trade organizations. Not that I'm especially pleased with the concept of having to go to an international body to stop our domestic government from acting like idiots...
60 posted on 09/07/2009 5:36:28 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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