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If Obama is proven ineligible to be president, then WHO would be president?
Self | 9/8/09 | Self

Posted on 09/08/2009 6:43:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Okay, assume Obama is determined to be ineligible to be the president due to him not being a natural born citizen of the United States. That would mean that neither he nor Biden would be eligible since he was elected under false pretenses.

It is quite possible that Pelosi will be facing charges up to treason for her part in this mess.

Byrd is physically unable to take the office.

And the rest of the Cabinet were appointed by Obama and would equally be ineligible as all of his appointments were unconstitutional.

My guess is that if this goes down, Pelosi resigns or is removed as Speaker of the House and we end up with another Rat.

However, the argument may also be made that since the elections results are null, the people who voted for Obama were duped and deserve another chance. There is no constitutional provision for what to do if a usurper were to manage to lie and connive his way into office because the founding fathers could never envision such a scenario.

So, what happens?


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1 posted on 09/08/2009 6:43:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Biden. Biden meets the qualifications under the XII amendment.


2 posted on 09/08/2009 6:45:11 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Dick Cheney would become acting President until a new election could be held.

At least thats what I would start telling the liberals followed by his first order of business is a video message to all the school children.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 6:45:21 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (The only misinformation about healthcare reform is the words that come out of Obama's mouth.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
My guess is that if this goes down, Pelosi resigns or is removed as Speaker of the House and we end up with another Rat.

Why would she resign? Democrats are not shamed into resigning for almost any reason. If there was any traction to the 0bama ineligibility question, I'd bet that Pelosi would be pushing for the 0bama/Biden team to be removed herself.

4 posted on 09/08/2009 6:45:47 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They would not go that easy..We would have riots in the streets.


5 posted on 09/08/2009 6:45:58 PM PDT by Milly (An Aggie Grama .)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If we’re lucky, it’ll trickle down to Gates.


6 posted on 09/08/2009 6:46:03 PM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats piss me off.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I think you should read the Constitution.

The Vice President serves if, for any reason, the President is rendered unfit or deemed unfit to serve.

President Biden.

7 posted on 09/08/2009 6:46:13 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: allmendream

You may be right, but I like #3’s answer better!


8 posted on 09/08/2009 6:47:30 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: allmendream

President Biden? Even Bid laden might come out of hiding due to laughter..


9 posted on 09/08/2009 6:47:32 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hmm, that’s interesting. Perhaps Gates, as he was nominated to the Cabinet under Bush. However, he was renominated to the cabinet under Obama.

My guess is the Joint Chiefs after the secretaries.


10 posted on 09/08/2009 6:47:34 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

IMHO Biden becomes president...that seems pretty clear. Biden was probably elected legally. However, there probably would be some fallout about anyone who actually knew Barry was ineligible and helped him perpetrate the fraud.


11 posted on 09/08/2009 6:48:28 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Typical_Whitey
Dick Cheney would become acting President until a new election could be held.

And Don Rumsfeld would replace Sondra Sotomayor on the USSC.

12 posted on 09/08/2009 6:49:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Perdogg

The argument can be made that the election results are null since the qualifications for Obama were not submitted and it is highly likely that Biden would have lost to McCain.


13 posted on 09/08/2009 6:49:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: Perdogg

The argument can be made that the election results are null since the qualifications for Obama were not submitted and it is highly likely that Biden would have lost to McCain.


14 posted on 09/08/2009 6:49:56 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Since the electoral votes were for Obama (and NOT for Biden), I should think that the one who got the second most would win . . . hence McCain/Palin.

Would love to see the illegal Kenyan-born alien and his family be forced out of the White House and have him and a lot of Dummycrats prosecuted for fraud and perhaps treason . . . in that we have therefore been without a president since inauguration day.


15 posted on 09/08/2009 6:51:12 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s an interesting question - purely hypothetical, since the Leftist masses, the MSM, the Democrat-controlled congress, and Obama’s AG won’t let it come to that.

But it poses another question - hypothetically, if Obama was never eligible to run, then he wasn’t eligible for the nomination. That means the Hillary people will start screaming that it should have been Hillary on the hustings, and, IMO, they’ll be able to make a pretty good case that Hillary should assume the office.

It’d be a fascinating political exercise for the nation, and one for the history books.

Then, too, what about all the legislation Obama spearheaded during his tenure if he has to step down? Would that all be tossed out the window, or what?

Pure fantasy, but it poses some intriguing questions.


16 posted on 09/08/2009 6:51:21 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Blood of Tyrants

President Biden. This is not rocket science.


17 posted on 09/08/2009 6:52:07 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: allmendream

“The Vice President serves if, for any reason, the President is rendered unfit or deemed unfit to serve.”

Yeah, but if the ticket were a fraud to begin with, Biden would be out of a job. I can’t imagine that a fraudulent ticket would allow the 2nd layer of fraud to serve in his absence.

We either have an Electoral College, or we don’t. Since the Kenyan got the most electoral votes (and not Biden), I should think that those votes would be thrown out and McCain/Biden would step in. I can’t see succession withint a fraudulent ticket.


18 posted on 09/08/2009 6:54:05 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Any thoughts?

Yeah. Won't happen. Regardless of the facts.

Uh, how about, what would you do if you won the lottery? Ever have that discussion? Sadly, this is even less likely to be relevant.

19 posted on 09/08/2009 6:54:58 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
John McLame. The Constitution requires the House to choose from the top two eligible candidates in the electoral college if no eligible candidate receives a majority. There is only one such candidate, so the House will be forced to choose from the list that includes the single candidate, John McLame.

A more important question would be: What happens to the legislation the Kenyan signed? Does it become law because the President did not veto it? Or, since there was no President at the time, does it all just become invalid?

20 posted on 09/08/2009 6:55:45 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If Obama is proven ineligible to be president, then WHO would be president?

Sure, why not?


21 posted on 09/08/2009 6:56:51 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: Jack Hammer

IMHO, all his EO’s immediately become null and void as well as any bills he has signed into law. All his appointments would be unconstitutional, also.


22 posted on 09/08/2009 6:57:15 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: allmendream

But the entire ticket would be fraudulent. This would not be an issue at all if the offices-holders were voted on individually, or that the second-place president would be the vice-president.

It would not be President Biden but President Cheney who would hold office until a new (non-fraudulent) election could be held.


23 posted on 09/08/2009 6:57:29 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No. Biden was elected to the office of Vice President. You have to remember, eventhough they ran a ticket, there were two separate election; One for President the other for VP.

Btw, Biden doesn’t work for 0bama nor can 0bama remove him.


24 posted on 09/08/2009 6:58:04 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: ScreamingFist
With the way the legal system is in the States it would take YEARS of dealing with BS legalese to remove him from office. Big thing is that IF it was proven it would nullify all legislation , appointments and E.O.'s that have been approved by this Admin.

AND it would be the start of a Race War!

25 posted on 09/08/2009 6:59:18 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: laweeks; OneWingedShark
Please show me where “ticket” is mentioned in the Constitution.

President Biden.

Read the Constitution.

26 posted on 09/08/2009 6:59:41 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: laweeks

I believe the ballots say electors for president and vice president.


27 posted on 09/08/2009 6:59:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

After Obama declares the constitution null and void and after the Marines move in to defend the constitution and shell the White House until the Junta gives up, it’s anybody’s guess.


28 posted on 09/08/2009 7:00:26 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: laweeks

No.... the EC votes for both the Prez and Vice-Prez... so it’d be Biden.


29 posted on 09/08/2009 7:00:36 PM PDT by txhurl (Obama went 1st After our Money, then after our Health, and now after our Kids. Put/keep pressure on.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Most sensible response so far. Good job! :)


30 posted on 09/08/2009 7:00:58 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: Larry Lucido

Nope, they are all British.


31 posted on 09/08/2009 7:01:36 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Its ALL GOOD.

No Obama is Good.

Anyone else would be an Improvement....Pelosi assuming the Presidency would be Good, as she woul leave Speaker of the House to Someone else.

Biden would be the Buffoon in Chief.


32 posted on 09/08/2009 7:02:00 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Its ALL GOOD.

No Obama is Good.

Anyone else would be an Improvement....Pelosi assuming the Presidency would be Good, as she woul leave Speaker of the House to Someone else.

Biden would be the Buffoon in Chief.


33 posted on 09/08/2009 7:02:13 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: laweeks

Biden’s first act as president will be to pardon Obama and his co-conspirators. Biden will have no realistic chance of getting elected in 2012. Obama might make a pardon a condition of his resigning before being ruled ineligible either by a court or by simple verified discovery validation of his Kenyan BC.


34 posted on 09/08/2009 7:02:36 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Read Article II and the 12th, 20th, and 25th Amendments of the Constitution, as well as the Presidential Succession Act of 1947. Your answer is there.


35 posted on 09/08/2009 7:03:06 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Perdogg

Are we in the United States of America or in ‘Make it up as you go along Land’?

Here in America we follow the Constitution, which spells out a line of succession.

I guess we should just shut up and see how they would do it in ‘Make it up as you go along Land’?


36 posted on 09/08/2009 7:03:33 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: Perdogg

No, you voted for only one set of electors, either Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin Or one of the others. If the ticket is fraudulent, then why should we accept the other person on the fraudulent ticket?


37 posted on 09/08/2009 7:03:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

biden gets the top job, appoints hillary as veep, after a few months he steps down due to health issues and hillary gets the top job.


38 posted on 09/08/2009 7:05:40 PM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Of COURSE Biden would be president....
What do you think Biden was thinking when he decided to accept the VP tap????

We should remember and realize that Biden was being perfectly honest when he said that Obama was not ready.

How quickly we forget and ignore such brazen inconsistency from the left.

Was he lying when he said that Obama wasn’t ready?
Or did he accept the VP slot because he also believed he would be the best person to fill the void **WHEN** Obama went down? Didn’t Biden realize how stupid it would make him look by accepting the position after he said what he did?

The only thing that doesn’t make sense is why Obama gave Biden the tap after that bombshell he laid on him during the campaign. I think that it is possible that Obama’s selection of Biden was his way of not only “reaching out”, but also his way of “showing him”. By bringing Biden on board against his stated convictions, he did several things... but most importantly, he eliminated a future opponent and dangled the carrot of power in front of a political enemy to prove to the world where Biden’s true convictions really reside.

If you think about it, both Biden and Obama started a very mean game of chess. Question is which one of them will win.


39 posted on 09/08/2009 7:05:40 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

Perhaps Biden had the goods on Obama and blackmailed him into giving him the VP position. If he is blackmailing Obama, then he will probably leak some very important info and get Obama kicked out.


40 posted on 09/08/2009 7:07:44 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: laweeks

The 12th Amendment requires that the winner have a majority of the electoral votes. McCain got around a third. No way he can be awarded the election.


41 posted on 09/08/2009 7:07:46 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Re-see the ticket you voted for visually. It was not Obama plus 1, Biden was separate on the presidential ticket as VP.

I wish it were different....


42 posted on 09/08/2009 7:08:05 PM PDT by txhurl (Obama went 1st After our Money, then after our Health, and now after our Kids. Put/keep pressure on.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The actual electing is done by Electors, and there is no “ticket” at that point.


43 posted on 09/08/2009 7:08:33 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Blood of Tyrants

>>> Perhaps Biden had the goods on Obama and blackmailed him into giving him the VP position.

I doubt that... Biden doesn’t have the balls, and isn’t that stupid.
Hillary certainly has the balls to do it, but look what she did when Obama took her behind the wood shed.


44 posted on 09/08/2009 7:10:38 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Joann37
I've heard Biden is one of the most inept people on capital hill.

I am sure that's why Zero chose him.

45 posted on 09/08/2009 7:11:00 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: jedi150

I think most blacks are too smart to riot. After all, they are the one’s who get hurt the most. If some IDIOTS riot and this becomes “BIG” , black/wite relations back 50+ YEARS.


46 posted on 09/08/2009 7:12:40 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“And Don Rumsfeld would replace Sondra Sotomayor on the USSC”.

...no. Sorry. You’re wrong. It’d be Bork.


47 posted on 09/08/2009 7:14:02 PM PDT by albie
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"That would mean that neither he nor Biden would be eligible since he was elected under false pretenses."

This is patently false. Biden takes the office of president if Obie is unable to serve

48 posted on 09/08/2009 7:15:09 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Buck Ofama!!)
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To: allmendream

It isn’t, however I counter your argument to show me a ballot with president & vice-president separately.

Thus the swearing in of Obama and Biden to their positions would be itself null and void, and the vice-president would be Dick Cheny because the wearing in of Obama would have been itself illegitimate.

If you read the Constitution, nowhere doe it mention that the president and Vice-President should be elected together, yet THAT IS WHAT WE DO! (IE we’ve been ignoring the Constitution this whole time.)

Also, if I recall correctly the vice-president was the presidential candidate who came in second according to the unamended Constitution. It is because we amended that away that we have the possibility of a non-eligible vice-president.

To further make matters worst, the electoral college and the congress and even the general-public vote on a president/vice-president tuple instead of on the people individually.

It is for that reason that the invalidating of the presidential candidate would also invalidate the vice-presidential candidate... the ENTIRE election was fraudulent. The various secretaries of state should have verified the eligibility of each candidate before putting them on the ballot. (Thus every Presidential candidate would have to pass 50 official checks for eligibility.)


49 posted on 09/08/2009 7:15:17 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

LOL! Perfect.


50 posted on 09/08/2009 7:15:59 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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