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EMP Attack Could Wipe Out U.S.
NewsMax ^ | September 9, 2009 | By Ronald Kessler

Posted on 09/09/2009 8:34:08 AM PDT by Fennie

The federal government is doing "nothing" to protect against an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack that could wipe out American civilization, Dr. Peter Vincent Pry, a leading expert on the subject, tells Newsmax.

For only $200 million to $400 million, the government could protect a key element of the power grid to keep electrical power from being wiped out for years, according to Dr. Pry, a former staff member of the congressional Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack.

Yet neither Republicans nor Democrats have been willing to spend that small sum, says Pry, who is president EMPACT America, which is meeting in Niagara Falls, N.Y. this week to spotlight the scandal.

A single nuclear bomb exploded over the Midwest would generate an electromagnetic pulse that would destroy the chips that are the heart of every electronic device. While military and intelligence networks may be shielded against EMP, most of the rest of the country's technological infrastructure is not.

An EMP attack would wipe out personal computers and the internet. Cars would not start, gasoline pumps would not work, and airplanes could not take off.

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To: Hepsabeth
dangerous ... but ... simple

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“For only $200 million to $400 million, the government could protect a key element of the power grid to keep electrical power from being wiped out for years, according to Dr. Pry, a former staff member of the congressional Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack.”
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wouldn’t this a worthwhile use of the trillions of stimulus monies being held back for who knows what?

Perhaps the Obama Security Force he wants?

81 posted on 09/09/2009 9:20:48 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: freebilly
Gee, no iPods, cell phones, GPS systems, or video games.... Can someone set off an EMP today..., please....

No Free Republic....
82 posted on 09/09/2009 9:22:18 AM PDT by Jagermonster (They will not force us. They will stop degrading us. They will not control us. We will be victorious)
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To: I Buried My Guns

So if my 1997 microwave gives out, I can use that?

Or I can put the radio in the microwave in the camper?


83 posted on 09/09/2009 9:25:03 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Beelzebubba
"...So do metal garbage cans. I think you’re wasting effort...."

I'm obsessed with personal economy. If something is offered for free, my ears perk up, and since metal garbage cans are rarely offered for free, and microwaves are indeed offered regularly, I opt for the microwave. As for effort, the only effort I expend is driving to the offering person's house and picking up the old device from the curb.

Also, they oftentimes get put on the curb during "heavy haul day" so I try to cruise the hood on those days.

84 posted on 09/09/2009 9:25:58 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Hodar

I know, that’s why I was suggesting investment in ammo, food, and medicine.

It’s not the energy so much as power, the risetimes being so high that any heating tends to be adiabatic, causing localized problems.

There are HEMP filters available for comm lines and low-power AC lines, but they cost a LOT more than your “surge protector” with its MOVs or varactors. Those will protect your stuff against one, maybe two lightning pulses (not a direct strike).


85 posted on 09/09/2009 9:26:17 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: netmilsmom
You can use any microwave, but it must be grounded. That means a wire affixed to the microwave's mesh and running to a pipe that goes under the ground.

Thus, the motorhome may not work.

If you Google "Farady Cage" and "EMP" you will get a lot more info than I can provide.

86 posted on 09/09/2009 9:30:05 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: geologist
"I pray you are correct and there will be no “Electro Magnetic pulse.”

We've set off enough nukes during the 50's and 60's to know that this EMP pulse attack stuff is nonsense.

Worrying about a nuke being detonated a couple miles above a major city is ALL you need to worry about, because if you are anywhere within 25 miles, you are dead. You'll be dead soon within 50 miles, and if you're outside of fifty miles, get as far away as you can as fast as you can.

Considering that if we are on the receiving end of a nuclear attack, many cities will be hit, and no matter where you are, the fallout is likely going to kill you soon anyways.

So unless you have a real good bomb shelter way out in the boonies 100 miles from anything with enough food and water, a good air filtration system, generator and fuel to run it for a year or more, You're gonna die.

87 posted on 09/09/2009 9:30:14 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Fennie; Petronski; BGHater; Constitution Day; Tijeras_Slim

I, for one, welcome a return to teh Gold Standard.


88 posted on 09/09/2009 9:30:36 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Nookyoolar Pr0n)
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To: Roklok
Yep, buy an older car without a computer.

Sure - but the refineraries that refine your gasoline are computer chip based - and the trucks that deliver gasoline have computer chips, and the stations and pumps have computer chips. So if you have a car without a chip you've got a few tanks worth - at best. Maybe an old model t that can run on moon shine would work...

89 posted on 09/09/2009 9:34:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (Who received the Van Jones FBI reports and who over-ruled the findings? fr:thouworm)
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To: netmilsmom

Try putting a wireless phone in one and see if it rings. Also try a cell phone or two. The microwave box is designed to stop the microwave freq (I think 2.1 gig but I don’t remember) and may not be as good a shield at lower freqs, like 900 MHz or higher freqs. They have to have a transparent window, and that will be a shield at a narrow range of freqs.

Aluminum or copper foil, though, can make a continuous conductive barrier all the way around your item with no, or few, leaky gaps, windows, or seals.

Come to think of it, your conventional oven may work well, too. You can test it by sticking a cell in it and calling it (I use a large shielded room with RF absorbing foam and a Watkins-Johnson receiver and a set of biconic antennas to do RF shield measurements, but sticking a cell inside works too).


90 posted on 09/09/2009 9:34:16 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Roklok
Yep, buy an older car without a computer.

Sure - but the refineries that refine your gasoline are computer chip based - and the trucks that deliver gasoline have computer chips, and the stations and pumps have computer chips. So if you have a car without a chip you've got a few tanks worth - at best. Maybe an old model t that can run on moon shine would work...

91 posted on 09/09/2009 9:34:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (Who received the Van Jones FBI reports and who over-ruled the findings? fr:thouworm)
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To: Nathan Zachary

“We’ve set off enough nukes during the 50’s and 60’s to know that this EMP pulse attack stuff is nonsense.”

Look up Starfish Prime or ARGUS.


92 posted on 09/09/2009 9:35:27 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: I Buried My Guns

Actually, I was considering hanging a chain off the ball of the camper. Wouldn’t that be a ground?

I thought I remembered reading that hanging a chain from your car can give you a fifty/fifty chance of having the car survive.


93 posted on 09/09/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: DBrow

I’m going to try that, thanks!

My DH crashed his motorcycle last week and his cellphone along with it. It can receive calls but nothing else.

I’m going to have some fun with that phone.


94 posted on 09/09/2009 9:37:53 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Ummm, almost nothing had computer chips in them the 50’s and 60’s ... If a nuke was tested in Nevada above ground in the late 50’s - computer chips didn’t even exist...


95 posted on 09/09/2009 9:38:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Who received the Van Jones FBI reports and who over-ruled the findings? fr:thouworm)
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To: Fennie
"Tank, charge the EMP"


96 posted on 09/09/2009 9:42:27 AM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right,...exercise...die anyway.)
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To: 4rcane

I’m a lot more worried about terrorists who WANT to hurt us than random acts of chance...


97 posted on 09/09/2009 9:42:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (Who received the Van Jones FBI reports and who over-ruled the findings? fr:thouworm)
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To: I Buried My Guns

LoL! That “mesh” is plastic on most microwaves these days. It doesn’t keep nothing “in”. The “microwave” produced by the microwave oven only covers a tiny area within the cooking area. On real cheap ones it doesn’t even cover the cooking area, which is why they have a rotating table so things cook more evenly.


98 posted on 09/09/2009 9:44:36 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: geologist
Some would say "why try to survive?" For what?

Because starving to death is so uncomfortable... almost as bad as watching your loved ones starve to death... People don't fight to survive for the "long run" - they fight to survive to stop the pain...

99 posted on 09/09/2009 9:45:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Who received the Van Jones FBI reports and who over-ruled the findings? fr:thouworm)
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To: Nathan Zachary
It is my understanding that the airplanes of the services have hardened protection of the vital instruments.

In the 50’s there were not all the electronics or the same forms of electronics ... it was the early days of transistors then.

You are correct about the kill zone. The point of the high atmosphere detonations is exactly to not cause destructions of properties; rather it is to disable all of our current facilities in the homes, businesses in the basics of current life. I am one of those that live in the great fly over country. Thus it is worth preparing as best as possible. Rather than fiddle while Rome burns.

God bless America.

100 posted on 09/09/2009 9:49:15 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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