Skip to comments.Hard-Wired Keystroke Loggers Into All New Laptop Computers?
Posted on 09/12/2009 5:50:26 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
Device captures everything you type and sends it via your ethernet card to the Dept. of Homeland Security without your knowledge, consent or a search warrant - every time you log on to the internet!
I was opening up my almost brand new laptop, to replace a broken PCMCIA slot riser on the motherboard. As soon as I got the keyboard off, I noticed a small cable running from the keyboard connection underneath a piece of metal protecting the motherboard.
This was sent to me, not confirmed.
(Excerpt) Read more at hardtruth.navhost.com ...
I’m pretty sure this was classified as ‘TinFoil’.
I always check for flash drives on any public computer.......background logging on a system with good security is less likely though IMO.
You're excerpting a rumor?
Old news for tinfoilers.
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Just an FYI for anyone interested.
Here’s another excerpt from your source.
“Do you believe that the United States was struck by terrorist attacks on Sept. 11th and do you think that the people behind the attacks were “Arabs”? Do you believe that the mastermind of the attacks was this fellow, Osama bin Laden, operating from a cave in Afghanistan? Do you think that the only way to stop terrorism is to hit the terrorists hard, hit them at their “bases”, in such remote places of the world like Afghanistan, and attack any nation who might sponsor them, like Iraq?”
“And what about the economy? Do you think that the recent fall of the stock market and the weakness in our economy have been directly caused by the Sept. 11th attacks? Ready to see how well you did? If you answered *yes* to any of these questions, you are most likely brainwashed. If you answered *yes* to more than one, or heaven forbid, all of them, you are definitely a goner and are hereby granted the title of *Imbecile*.”
No. Not true. There are a group of guys/girls (including me) that take this stuff apart down to the bit level. If that were the case it would be discovered in minutes of a release. TinFoil hat time....Now, let me say for the record that keyboard loggers exist, and may be secretly installed on a computer, but not by the manufacture. Use a good fire-wall, virus scanner, and common sense, and you will be secure.
This is the same as the the Potomac River terrorist truthers. OOOPPPSSS, my tinfoil slipped and the bad waves are corrupting my mind.
I will not believe it until the voice in my pants says to!
I was opening up my almost brand new laptop, to replace a broken PCMCIA slot riser on the motherboardWhat was he going to use to solder/unsolder the multi-pin conector - a 5$ chisel-point Radio Shack soldering iron?
Work of this type requires a hot-air rework station and the SKILL to operate it ...
“The Moderators deleted an *excellent* debunk on this very item a few weeks back ... this thing is bogus.”
This is FUD stuff, I think, Swampsniper.
See thread below from 4 years ago:
Is Big Brother logging your keystrokes?
Posted June 21, 2005
In thread, see post by alnick
if true, some smart entepeneur will start a business disabling the link ...
Yes, this person is so important that DHS, the NSA, and the FBI all want to capture and analyze his every keystroke, 7 x 24 x 365.
In fact, “they” have an enormous secret facility on the grounds of Ft. Meade MD that employs 20,000 top secret analysts who watch and flag the keystroke patterns of millions of Americans and foreigners every day.
So be careful, your “keyboard” is connected by “suspicious wires” to a “secret DHS/NSA/FBI communications chip.”
Be careful out there!
>>> Is someone trying to immunize us to thinking it’s an Urban Legend before they install the real thing? <<<<<
Yeah, that must be it!
Every time I read something like this I feel more and more immunized to “the government” installing secret comm chips in my computer, my toaster, my HDTV, and my brain!
It’s coming! And I am immunized!
Why does this BS float through about every other week? Is someone trying to immunize us to thinking it's an Urban Legend before they install the real thing?Teenage hackers getting 'gay thrills' by creating dozens of bogus websites with fuzzy images and fabricated HDS documents; Michael Rivero (of what really happened) class pap meant to 'scare' others by gaining exposure in the press ...
I fill the spaces between the keys with frito crumbs, it foils all their evil efforts!
1. no mention of the name or model number of the computer. If true, I think he would want this information to get out to the public.
2. Very blurry picture of the connection, especially when compared to the other sharp pictures.
3. Four wire connection on the disassembled board. That looks like the wiring for an external keyboard. Laptop keyboards are usually connected to their motherboards with a flexible ribbon cable because the decoding electronics are split between the keyboard and the motherboard, unlike an external keyboard where all the decoding has to be on the keyboard.
4. Calling the PIC16F876 a Programmable Interrupt Controller. That is where the acronym PIC comes from, but they have been full (if somewhat quirky) microprocessors for a long time.
5. It would be vastly easier for the government to get Microsoft and Apple to drop a keylogger into the operating system or the manufacturers to include one built into the motherboard than convert the raw signals to a PS/2 style signal (it doesn't look like a USB cable) to record.
For now."For now."
What does that mean?
ANYTHING that leaves your PC/laptop CAN BE OBSERVED via an IP packet sniffer. Coming up, better include a WiFi or a BlueTooth of-air monitor as well. I mention these last two, because, they are alternatives that most people don't give much thought to BUT an implanted (software) key logger could just as easily use wireless.
- and I covered all this in the thread that was deleted, so I have to repeat myself all over again to quote Yogi Berra! ;)
I should point out that your firewall should block outbound connections unless you KNOW what traffic is being sent out. Allow only those ports you use. Log all traffic and review your logs on a regular basis. If there is anything NOT NORMAL, check out right away.
>>>> I fill the spaces between the keys with frito crumbs, it foils all their evil efforts! <<<<
A concerned citizen could just limit their computer use to point and click using the mouse.
Then “they” would never see your keystrokes!
Those stupid intelligence agencies can’t fool me!
>>> As soon as I got the keyboard off, I noticed a small cable running from the keyboard connection underneath a piece of metal protecting the motherboard
To be on the safe side, I’d recommend cutting all wire connecting to the motherboard. That’ll show them.
Yes, correct. But, you and I know that the average Pat and Paul Family will never take all these precautions. That’s why I am always happy to have the hacker community on the job. Because as soon as they find the holes, then they are plugged. The #1 item for safety is to keep your systems OS patched with the latest release.
This silliness just won’t die :(
Rumor-mongers have rights too!
I hope DHS doesn’t find out what I said about 0bama’s ears.
I just wear an old pressure cooker!
I am way too paranoid to let it go with just the OS patches :-). Then again, I work in the security / risk management space and I know what is out there.
You should be more worried about the implant the Martians placed in your ear while you were sleeping.
Are we reviving old threads tonight because there isn't enough current stuff to talk about?
“Are we reviving old threads tonight because there isn’t enough current stuff to talk about?”
Sometimes I search on “computer”, “Linux”, etc. to see if anything interesting escaped my notice. I might even comment on those threads although they are stale. Has 12 guage ammo been certified for use against Martians? (you have be sure about such things)
I’ll do my own certification if need be.