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Hard-Wired Keystroke Loggers Into All New Laptop Computers?
HARDTRUTH ^ | Sept. 12, 2009 | swampsniper

Posted on 09/12/2009 5:50:26 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

Device captures everything you type and sends it via your ethernet card to the Dept. of Homeland Security without your knowledge, consent or a search warrant - every time you log on to the internet!

I was opening up my almost brand new laptop, to replace a broken PCMCIA slot riser on the motherboard. As soon as I got the keyboard off, I noticed a small cable running from the keyboard connection underneath a piece of metal protecting the motherboard.

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This was sent to me, not confirmed.

(Excerpt) Read more at hardtruth.navhost.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: computer; keystroke; logger; urbanlegend

1 posted on 09/12/2009 5:50:27 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I’m pretty sure this was classified as ‘TinFoil’.


2 posted on 09/12/2009 5:52:14 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I always check for flash drives on any public computer.......background logging on a system with good security is less likely though IMO.

http://www.rohos.com/kid-logger/


3 posted on 09/12/2009 5:53:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: sauropod

mark


4 posted on 09/12/2009 5:54:07 AM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
(Excerpt) Read more at hardtruth.navhost.com ...

You're excerpting a rumor?

5 posted on 09/12/2009 5:55:16 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Old news for tinfoilers.

seriously.


6 posted on 09/12/2009 5:57:05 AM PDT by Neets (Go Yankees!!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
From the link you posted:

Important notice: KidLogger does contain adware modules.

Just an FYI for anyone interested.

7 posted on 09/12/2009 5:58:27 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Here’s another excerpt from your source.

http://hardtruth.navhost.com/brainwashed.html

“Do you believe that the United States was struck by terrorist attacks on Sept. 11th and do you think that the people behind the attacks were “Arabs”? Do you believe that the mastermind of the attacks was this fellow, Osama bin Laden, operating from a cave in Afghanistan? Do you think that the only way to stop terrorism is to hit the terrorists hard, hit them at their “bases”, in such remote places of the world like Afghanistan, and attack any nation who might sponsor them, like Iraq?”

“And what about the economy? Do you think that the recent fall of the stock market and the weakness in our economy have been directly caused by the Sept. 11th attacks? Ready to see how well you did? If you answered *yes* to any of these questions, you are most likely brainwashed. If you answered *yes* to more than one, or heaven forbid, all of them, you are definitely a goner and are hereby granted the title of *Imbecile*.”


8 posted on 09/12/2009 5:58:51 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

9 posted on 09/12/2009 5:59:24 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The Moderators deleted an *excellent* debunk on this very item a few weeks back ... this ‘thing’ is bogus.
10 posted on 09/12/2009 6:00:29 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

No. Not true. There are a group of guys/girls (including me) that take this stuff apart down to the bit level. If that were the case it would be discovered in minutes of a release. TinFoil hat time....Now, let me say for the record that keyboard loggers exist, and may be secretly installed on a computer, but not by the manufacture. Use a good fire-wall, virus scanner, and common sense, and you will be secure.


11 posted on 09/12/2009 6:00:58 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

This is the same as the the Potomac River terrorist truthers. OOOPPPSSS, my tinfoil slipped and the bad waves are corrupting my mind.

I will not believe it until the voice in my pants says to!


12 posted on 09/12/2009 6:02:35 AM PDT by charmedone
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I was opening up my almost brand new laptop, to replace a broken PCMCIA slot riser on the motherboard
What was he going to use to solder/unsolder the multi-pin conector - a 5$ chisel-point Radio Shack soldering iron?

Work of this type requires a hot-air rework station and the SKILL to operate it ...

13 posted on 09/12/2009 6:04:07 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; _Jim; alnick

“The Moderators deleted an *excellent* debunk on this very item a few weeks back ... this ‘thing’ is bogus.”

This is FUD stuff, I think, Swampsniper.

See thread below from 4 years ago:

Is Big Brother logging your keystrokes?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1427199/posts?page=80

Posted June 21, 2005

In thread, see post by alnick
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1427199/posts?page=76#76


14 posted on 09/12/2009 6:07:50 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Why does this BS float through about every other week? Is someone trying to immunize us to thinking it's an Urban Legend before they install the real thing? (he, he, how's that for feeding the conspiracy prone)

Regards

15 posted on 09/12/2009 6:08:24 AM PDT by Rashputin (blif)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

if true, some smart entepeneur will start a business disabling the link ...


16 posted on 09/12/2009 6:14:00 AM PDT by wny
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yes, this person is so important that DHS, the NSA, and the FBI all want to capture and analyze his every keystroke, 7 x 24 x 365.

In fact, “they” have an enormous secret facility on the grounds of Ft. Meade MD that employs 20,000 top secret analysts who watch and flag the keystroke patterns of millions of Americans and foreigners every day.

So be careful, your “keyboard” is connected by “suspicious wires” to a “secret DHS/NSA/FBI communications chip.”

Be careful out there!


17 posted on 09/12/2009 6:17:47 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Rashputin

>>> Is someone trying to immunize us to thinking it’s an Urban Legend before they install the real thing? <<<<<

Yeah, that must be it!

Every time I read something like this I feel more and more immunized to “the government” installing secret comm chips in my computer, my toaster, my HDTV, and my brain!

It’s coming! And I am immunized!


18 posted on 09/12/2009 6:19:30 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
This appears to be a hoax going back to 2005.

http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/dellbug.asp

19 posted on 09/12/2009 6:19:40 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: _Jim

For now.


20 posted on 09/12/2009 6:22:37 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Rashputin
Why does this BS float through about every other week? Is someone trying to immunize us to thinking it's an Urban Legend before they install the real thing?
Teenage hackers getting 'gay thrills' by creating dozens of bogus websites with fuzzy images and fabricated HDS documents; Michael Rivero (of what really happened) class pap meant to 'scare' others by gaining exposure in the press ...
21 posted on 09/12/2009 6:27:44 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: angkor

I fill the spaces between the keys with frito crumbs, it foils all their evil efforts!


22 posted on 09/12/2009 6:31:27 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (DON'T LET THEM HIJACK THIS!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Problems with this story:

1. no mention of the name or model number of the computer. If true, I think he would want this information to get out to the public.

2. Very blurry picture of the connection, especially when compared to the other sharp pictures.

3. Four wire connection on the disassembled board. That looks like the wiring for an external keyboard. Laptop keyboards are usually connected to their motherboards with a flexible ribbon cable because the decoding electronics are split between the keyboard and the motherboard, unlike an external keyboard where all the decoding has to be on the keyboard.

4. Calling the PIC16F876 a Programmable Interrupt Controller. That is where the acronym PIC comes from, but they have been full (if somewhat quirky) microprocessors for a long time.

5. It would be vastly easier for the government to get Microsoft and Apple to drop a keylogger into the operating system or the manufacturers to include one built into the motherboard than convert the raw signals to a PS/2 style signal (it doesn't look like a USB cable) to record.

23 posted on 09/12/2009 6:33:14 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: twigs
For now.
"For now."

What does that mean?

ANYTHING that leaves your PC/laptop CAN BE OBSERVED via an IP packet sniffer. Coming up, better include a WiFi or a BlueTooth of-air monitor as well. I mention these last two, because, they are alternatives that most people don't give much thought to BUT an implanted (software) key logger could just as easily use wireless.

- and I covered all this in the thread that was deleted, so I have to repeat myself all over again to quote Yogi Berra! ;)

24 posted on 09/12/2009 6:33:39 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: devane617

I should point out that your firewall should block outbound connections unless you KNOW what traffic is being sent out. Allow only those ports you use. Log all traffic and review your logs on a regular basis. If there is anything NOT NORMAL, check out right away.


25 posted on 09/12/2009 6:37:04 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

>>>> I fill the spaces between the keys with frito crumbs, it foils all their evil efforts! <<<<

A concerned citizen could just limit their computer use to point and click using the mouse.

Then “they” would never see your keystrokes!

Those stupid intelligence agencies can’t fool me!


26 posted on 09/12/2009 6:37:32 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER


27 posted on 09/12/2009 6:49:01 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

>>> As soon as I got the keyboard off, I noticed a small cable running from the keyboard connection underneath a piece of metal protecting the motherboard

To be on the safe side, I’d recommend cutting all wire connecting to the motherboard. That’ll show them.


28 posted on 09/12/2009 7:29:25 AM PDT by tlb
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To: taxcontrol

Yes, correct. But, you and I know that the average Pat and Paul Family will never take all these precautions. That’s why I am always happy to have the hacker community on the job. Because as soon as they find the holes, then they are plugged. The #1 item for safety is to keep your systems OS patched with the latest release.


29 posted on 09/12/2009 7:51:22 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

30 posted on 09/12/2009 7:52:37 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

This silliness just won’t die :(


31 posted on 09/12/2009 7:56:53 AM PDT by MCH
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Fritos...yum!!


32 posted on 09/12/2009 8:15:33 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (I'm as Mad as Hell, and I'm Not Gonna Take This Anymore!)
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To: Larry Lucido

Rumor-mongers have rights too!


33 posted on 09/12/2009 8:20:44 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
No keyboard crumbs here!


34 posted on 09/12/2009 8:32:17 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I went to the Hardtruth page and noticed the following at the very bottom of the page:

If you have witnessed UFO activity or think that you could possibly be a contactee or abductee, visit my other site and request a private session. I have been helping troubled souls to release the fear and anxiety that is attached to this unusual phenomenon - (name removed)

So it's now clear to me: The ones who are logging your every keystroke are aliens, not the DHS! /sarcasm
35 posted on 09/12/2009 8:57:09 AM PDT by normanpubbie
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I hope DHS doesn’t find out what I said about 0bama’s ears.


36 posted on 09/12/2009 9:00:44 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
This should help
37 posted on 09/12/2009 10:13:41 AM PDT by T Minus Four (I'm all wee-weed up!)
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To: T Minus Four

I just wear an old pressure cooker!


38 posted on 09/12/2009 11:01:12 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (DON'T LET THEM HIJACK THIS!)
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To: devane617

I am way too paranoid to let it go with just the OS patches :-). Then again, I work in the security / risk management space and I know what is out there.


39 posted on 09/14/2009 9:11:06 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

You should be more worried about the implant the Martians placed in your ear while you were sleeping.


40 posted on 09/17/2009 9:35:42 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Obama = Jim Jones coercing us into suicide on a national scale)
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To: TexasRepublic
I don't worry about anything as long as I have my 12 guage pumpgun!

Are we reviving old threads tonight because there isn't enough current stuff to talk about?

41 posted on 09/17/2009 9:40:34 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“Are we reviving old threads tonight because there isn’t enough current stuff to talk about?”

Sometimes I search on “computer”, “Linux”, etc. to see if anything interesting escaped my notice. I might even comment on those threads although they are stale. Has 12 guage ammo been certified for use against Martians? (you have be sure about such things)


42 posted on 09/21/2009 8:10:43 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Obama = Jim Jones coercing us into suicide on a national scale)
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To: TexasRepublic

I’ll do my own certification if need be.


43 posted on 09/21/2009 10:45:15 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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