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Extinct New Zealand eagle may have eaten humans
hostednews/ ^ | 20 hours ago | MICHAEL CASEY

Posted on 09/12/2009 8:48:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono

Sophisticated computer scans of fossils have helped solve a mystery over the nature of a giant, ancient raptor known as the Haast's eagle which became extinct about 500 years ago, researchers said Friday. The researchers say they have determined that the eagle — which lived in the mountains of New Zealand and weighed about 40 pounds (18 kilograms) — was a predator and not a mere scavenger as many thought.

Much larger than modern eagles, Haast's eagle would have swooped to prey on flightless birds — and possibly even the rare unlucky human.

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1 posted on 09/12/2009 8:48:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

My suspicion is that’s what doomed it to extinction. Those pesky humans just have no sense of humor.


2 posted on 09/12/2009 8:50:00 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: JoeProBono
which became extinct about 500 years ago

Only 500? Incredible.

3 posted on 09/12/2009 8:50:44 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: JoeProBono

Saw this this morning, and saw it on tv awhile ago too- This bird was HUGE- it was able to kill birds larger than ostrachis’ (sp?) by puncturing their skulls with it’s claws- they laid a normal sized eagle’s skull next to one of htese giants, and it was amazing hte size difference. They’ve know about htis bird for a goodl ong time now- not sure why this is ‘news’ now? This giant has always been a threat to humans because of it’s size- I’m sure it did eat humans from time to time- but they’ve known this was a possibility for a logn time now


4 posted on 09/12/2009 8:52:00 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: JoeProBono
"Much larger than modern eagles..."

i wonder if the author has ever seen a golden eagle up close?

i have. I was hiking on the southern ute reservation outside of durango, co., and i will say that it appeared to be close to 40 lbs. i know, i know birds have hollow bones and lots of feathers, but when you see one in the wild up close, you will NEVER forget it.

yes that's a mountain goat!

5 posted on 09/12/2009 8:57:05 AM PDT by robomatik
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To: JoeProBono

Of course, they had to be big. How else would they be able to carry a hobbit or a wizard?


6 posted on 09/12/2009 9:00:15 AM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: DieHard the Hunter; shaggy eel

ping


7 posted on 09/12/2009 9:01:30 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 234 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: JoeProBono
If they were still around here they would definitely have to put up a sign saying don't feed the eagles for the benefit of the morons. The sign would eventually have a pair of shoes next to it, some blood spray across it, and a dropped camera with a great close up of the eagle.
8 posted on 09/12/2009 9:01:44 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: JoeProBono

I’ve always been conviced that this bird is why 90% of the unique native bird life in NZ evolved to be nocturnal.


9 posted on 09/12/2009 9:02:26 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: JoeProBono

Extinct? SOB...Bush’s fault!


10 posted on 09/12/2009 9:02:41 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: JoeProBono

Thunderbird?


11 posted on 09/12/2009 9:05:32 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Liberals feed on dead Senators and babies)
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To: bmwcyle

A little early to be thinking about drinking, isn’t it?


12 posted on 09/12/2009 9:12:45 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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13 posted on 09/12/2009 9:14:56 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

You keep me in stitches! Where do you find all these cool articles/pics?! LOL

Thanks for the humor breaks.


14 posted on 09/12/2009 9:39:18 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: Deaf Smith

15 posted on 09/12/2009 9:42:49 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

“Extinct”

It probably bit Helen Thomas


16 posted on 09/12/2009 9:42:51 AM PDT by dynachrome (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: fwdude

Most likely this eagle, also known as the Hobbit Eagle, went extinct when it’s short, hairy-footed prey went extinct.


17 posted on 09/12/2009 9:42:55 AM PDT by Yardstick
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18 posted on 09/12/2009 9:44:48 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: gardengirl
Hehe


19 posted on 09/12/2009 9:49:08 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Mr. Mojo
It became extinct only 500 years ago! Must have been caused by Columbus discovering America.</sarcasm>
20 posted on 09/12/2009 9:57:11 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: Brilliant

> My suspicion is that’s what doomed it to extinction. Those pesky humans just have no sense of humor.

Surprisingly, not quite.

The Haast Eagle lived mostly on a large bird (sorta like a huge ostrich) called a Moa. They were plentiful in New Zealand until the Maori arrived about 900-1200 years ago, depending on whose calculation you use.

New Zealand had few abundant sources of meat, except for Moas and Maori. And so, Maori hunted Moas to extinction about 500 years ago. When the Moas were gone, the Maori became cannibals.

And the Haast Eagle, having run out of food, soon died off.


21 posted on 09/12/2009 10:14:40 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: robomatik

> i wonder if the author has ever seen a golden eagle up close?

I have (Born in BC). The Golden Eagle is indeed a very large bird. And as best anyone can tell, the Haast Eagle would be two or three times as large. If it was killing and eating Moas, it would have to be.


22 posted on 09/12/2009 10:16:27 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"... the Haast Eagle would be two or three times as large."

incredible!

23 posted on 09/12/2009 9:58:41 PM PDT by robomatik
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24 posted on 09/14/2009 8:31:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: robomatik

WOW !!!!!!


25 posted on 09/14/2009 8:34:16 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: SunkenCiv

26 posted on 09/14/2009 8:36:27 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
What is that picture of.

Is it fake?

27 posted on 09/14/2009 8:36:40 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: JoeProBono

WOW! What is that picture showing? What bird is that? From where? !!!


28 posted on 09/14/2009 8:39:44 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: robomatik
"i wonder if the author has ever seen a golden eagle up close?...i have. I was hiking on the southern ute reservation outside of durango, co..."

When I was stationed at Ft. Riley, KS I had a '66 MGB...tiny little car. During the winter/spring timeframe, a large number of bald eagles drift into the Milford Lake area which is a large man-made lake to the northwest of the installation and eagles are not an uncommon sight during that time of year. One unseasonably warm spring day, I was driving through the backroads of post and saw a huge bald eagle shadowing my car. He followed me all the way off post to the town of Ogden...While I had no reason to believe he'd try to attack, I am fairly certain that he came to that conclusion only after giving me a good sizing up.

29 posted on 09/14/2009 8:40:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: fwdude

Fifteen birds on five fir trees,

Their feathers were fanned in a fiery breeze,

But, funny little birds, they had no wings!

O what shall we do with the funny little things?

Roast ‘em alive, or stew them in a pot;

Fry them, boil them and eat them hot?


30 posted on 09/14/2009 8:41:28 AM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: fwdude

Love it :-)


31 posted on 09/14/2009 8:43:24 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Nikas777; Dustbunny
Which?
32 posted on 09/14/2009 8:43:32 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Did they taste like chicken?


33 posted on 09/14/2009 8:43:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JoeProBono
Much larger than modern eagles, Haast's eagle would have swooped to prey on flightless birds — and possibly even the rare unlucky human

Which, of course, is why it is extinct.


34 posted on 09/14/2009 8:44:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Put butter on your tag line.)
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To: JoeProBono

WOW - where did you find that picture? It almost looks like a Pteradactyl head.

I remember reading a book about Tibet long ago...the author talked about a bird there called a llamergeyer(sp?) He shot one down that was stalking his son and held it up to show the wingspan in relation to a man and a samll child. I thought then that this was the biggest bird I’ve ever seen..until now


35 posted on 09/14/2009 8:46:52 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: JoeProBono

#13


36 posted on 09/14/2009 8:47:51 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: robomatik

Actually I have a hard time accepting the fact that this video is real. Could it be photoshopped?


37 posted on 09/14/2009 8:48:47 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dustbunny

No information on this photo. It alleges to show hunters from the 1800s, early 1900s, with a large “thunderbird” they have shot.


38 posted on 09/14/2009 8:50:47 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: robomatik

On a short boat tour operating out of Seward Alaska we saw some goats high on cliffs above the water. The guide said the Bald Eagles would dive on the young goats and scare them into falling off. The remains would be picked off the rocks below.

I have watched Golden Eagles in Western North Carolina mountains but they did not seem that large. Seeing however is believing.


39 posted on 09/14/2009 8:55:43 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: robomatik

Young eagles were heard to say...”Can I have Moa mama?”


40 posted on 09/14/2009 8:58:11 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: Mr. Mojo

“Only 500? Incredible.”

Only 500 because the Maori were the first humans to arrive, and they arrived relatively late, only 1000 years ago or less. Much like North America, where the arrival of migrating Siberians about 10,000 years ago coincides with the following rapid extinction of large North American mammals.

What’s interesting about New Zealand is that, because NZ was volcanic in origin and geographically remote, birds arrived there first, and then, without any competition, were able to evolve to fill all the ecological niches, i.e., the large grazers, the predators, etc were all some form of bird. So the Haast eagle was the premier predator, hunting the biggest prey — huge flightless grazing birds.

By the way, there was a British explorer-hunter who, when traveling in the NZ mountains during the early days of exploration, casually remarked in a diary that he shot and ate 2 very large birds of prey. Those birds may have been the last 2 birds of the species, or a related predator species.


41 posted on 09/14/2009 9:28:16 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: bamahead

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42 posted on 09/14/2009 9:32:07 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I remember the MGB being a small car, but so small an eagle thought he could take one???
43 posted on 09/14/2009 12:58:19 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Barack Obama is an old Kenyan word for Jimmy Carter)
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To: colorado tanker
"I remember the MGB being a small car, but so small an eagle thought he could take one???"

If he thought he could have taken my car, I'm sure he would have given it the old college try. I'm just saying he took his own sweet time coming to the conclusion that maybe it was just a weeeeee bit too big. There was no doubt in my mind that its wingspan was wider than my car...;-)

44 posted on 09/14/2009 1:11:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
:-))
45 posted on 09/14/2009 1:24:12 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Barack Obama is an old Kenyan word for Jimmy Carter)
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