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Family fears vaccine led to girl's illness
The Wichita Eagle ^ | Sun, Sep. 13, 2009 | SUZANNE PEREZ TOBIAS

Posted on 09/13/2009 7:14:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

Gabrielle "Gabi" Swank dreamed of traveling to Africa as a Christian missionary.

Now the 16-year-old Wichitan rarely leaves her house, but she's on a mission — warning girls, parents and doctors against Gardasil.

Gabi's doctor and family think the cervical cancer vaccine caused a life-threatening condition that is affecting her immune and nervous systems.

Other experts say there's no link: The vaccine is safe — and a better option than risking cervical cancer.

Whatever the case, Gabi spends her days fighting her disease and urging others to fight Gardasil.

"Preventing cervical cancer is a great idea. This vaccine could be a wonderful thing," Gabi said. "But they need to investigate it more, and they need to fix it.

"I don't want anyone else to have to go through what I'm going through."

Safety, risk report

Gardasil was designed to protect against four strains of the human papilloma virus, which account for about 70 percent of cervical cancers.

The vaccine, approved in 2006, is recommended for girls ages 9 to 26 and is administered in three shots over six months.

A report issued last month raised new questions about Gardasil's safety. The report by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the vaccine had been linked to 32 deaths and more than 700 serious or life-threatening complications, including fainting and blood clots.

At the same time, an analysis by the National Vaccine Information Center, a private vaccine safety group, found that women injected with Gardasil had triple the number of emergency room visits and up to 30 times the number of reported side effects as those given a meningitis vaccine.

"Now we know ... there are more reactions and deaths associated with Gardasil than with another vaccine given in the same age group," said Barbara Fisher, president of the nonprofit group. "It's irresponsible not to take action."

Officials with Merck, which manufactures Gardasil, say the vaccine's benefits continue to outweigh its risks, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration reiterated its position that "Gardasil is a safe and effective vaccine." On Wednesday, an FDA committee recommended that the vaccine be made available to boys and men.

"We vaccinate ourselves, our children and our parents with the same vaccines that we send out to the public every day," said Jennifer Allen, a spokeswoman for Merck.

"We have reviewed all the safety information... and we remain confident in the safety profile of Gardasil."

Since its launch, more than 50 million doses of Gardasil have been distributed around the world, Allen said, with more than 26 million in the U.S.

Post-vaccine changes

Gabi, a junior at Wichita South High School, got her first Gardasil shot in November 2007. She lobbied her mother to get the vaccine, spurred in part by Merck's television campaign.

"Everyone at school was like, 'Have you gotten the shot yet? You have to get it,' " Gabi said. "It was like the anti-cancer shot, so we all thought it was a great thing."

Shortly after her first injection, Gabi developed conditions that seemed unexplainable: excessive fatigue, headaches, muscle pain and numbness in her hands and feet.

Her condition worsened after subsequent shots, said Shannon Shrag, Gabi's mother. Gabi's face, hands and feet swelled. She began losing hair. Her body ached most of the time. No one connected her symptoms with the vaccine.

About three months after her final Gardasil shot, Gabi collapsed from severe chest pains and shortness of breath. Several exams and trips to the emergency room left doctors perplexed. Gabi, a varsity cheerleader, gymnast and honor roll student, assumed she had overworked herself.

"That was the beginning of a horrific battle," Schrag said. "Trying to get answers to what was happening to my daughter, trying to find someone who was willing to help her and not tell her she was crazy."

Eventually, Gabi was diagnosed with lupus and cerebral vasculitis, potentially fatal autoimmune and nervous system diseases that have "totally changed my life," she said.

Gabi is too weak to attend school most days. She has seizures that paralyze parts of her body. She takes more than 30 pills a day and recently began lengthy intravenous treatments.

Gabi's neurologist, Dwight Lindholm, blames the Gardasil vaccine for her condition.

"She was perfectly healthy before she started the vaccine. The symptoms began immediately after her first shot and grew progressively worse," Lindholm said.

"I'd say that's good evidence that it's related to the vaccine."

Tragic coincidence

Others say it's likely a tragic coincidence.

Tom Moore, an infectious disease physician and clinical professor at the University of Kansas School of Medicine-Wichita, said anecdotal cases like Gabi's are powerful but unscientific.

"Unfortunately, people get lupus all the time. They develop autoimmune conditions. And the disease is often diagnosed in girls in that age group," Moore said.

"To say on the basis of a single case that this was definitely related to the vaccine and, 'By the way, no one should get the vaccine' — that message is irresponsible, and it's at odds with the information that is available."

No vaccine is without risk or side effects, Moore said.

"But in general, these vaccines are as safe as they can possibly be ... and much safer than the risk of getting cervical cancer."

Allen, the Merck spokeswoman, added: "We do not believe that reported autoimmune diseases have been caused by Gardasil.... What we have seen so far does not show any causal relationship."

Support for Gabi

Gabi's isn't the only family that thinks their daughter was harmed by Gardasil. Reports in the Dallas Morning News, U.S. News & World Report, CBS News and other outlets have pointed to several deaths unofficially linked to the vaccine.

More than 100 Facebook pages and petitions urge doctors to stop administering Gardasil, including one titled "Pray for Gabi Swank — Gardasil Victim," which has almost 4,500 members.

An Australian film crew has been chronicling Gabi's life over the past several months, including her appearance in the South High homecoming court last winter that was cut short by a violent seizure and trip to the emergency room.

"I had this awesome dress, and my hair and makeup looked great. And I was just vomiting all over the hospital parking lot," Gabi said. "The camera was right there catching everything. It was like Lindsay Lohan or something."

Friends and classmates have organized fundraisers to offset the family's medical costs. They're selling T-shirts with the phrase, "I don't want to be one less" — a nod to the Gardasil catchphrase, "Be one less," which refers to one less case of cervical cancer.

Gabi's prescriptions cost almost $2,000 a month. Schrag was laid off from her job in pharmaceutical sales last year and has stayed home to care for Gabi. Her husband, Derek, works for Chance Industries. In January, the family lost their south Wichita house to foreclosure and moved to a small duplex.

"Our priority right now is Gabi's health, getting her better," Schrag said.

She struggles with guilt over Gabi's condition, saying she never considered that the vaccine her daughter begged for could have serious side effects.

Because cervical cancer runs in her family, "We thought what we were doing was protecting Gabi," Schrag said. "We didn't want to give cancer the opportunity to invade her body in any way."

Gabi says she "cried all the time" when she first learned the severity of her condition. Her mother and doctors say she may not survive.

But now, "I've accepted it. This has happened to me," she said. "I don't want it to keep happening to other girls."



TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: gardasil; hpv; teens; vaccines
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Gabi Swank, 16, has been diagnosed with the terminal disease cerebral
vasculatis after she was given Gardasil, a human pappilomaavirus vaccine.


Gabi Swank, 16, and mother Shannon Schrag sort through some of Gabi's
medications. She has been diagnosed with the terminal disease cerebral
vasculatis after she was given Gardasil, a human pappilomaavirus vaccine.


1 posted on 09/13/2009 7:14:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp; luckystarmom; hocndoc; NittanyLion; perseid 67; Dick Vomer; PAR35; ...

Gabi Swank's medications cost over $2,000 month, not counting her
in-home chemo treatments. She has been diagnosed with the terminal
disease cerebral vasculatis after she was given Gardasil, a human
pappilomaavirus vaccine.

If you want on or off my Gardasil ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


2 posted on 09/13/2009 7:18:47 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (I wonder why Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) is so afraid of talking with his constituents?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I was one of the only moms who skipped it last year for my 6th grade daughter...


3 posted on 09/13/2009 7:20:11 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: conservative cat

Was there a lot of pressure to get your daughter immunized?


4 posted on 09/13/2009 7:21:30 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (I wonder why Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) is so afraid of talking with his constituents?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I would cut off my right arm before either of my daughters got this vaccine.

My Goddaughter is 20. She said no too.

It prevents only a small percent of the virus’ linked to cervical cancer. It does not prevent the cancer. They are marketing it wrong.


5 posted on 09/13/2009 7:32:25 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Paleo Conservative

No, our state lets you opt out for philosophical opp, and so far it isn’t even one of the mandatory shots, so... The other moms did it without question, though!


6 posted on 09/13/2009 7:32:36 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"Other experts say there's no link: The vaccine is safe — and a better option than risking cervical cancer. "

And the lies continue. Well, they aren't really, lies, just not the whole truth. Gardasil does not protect against all causes of cervical cancer, only about 60% of them, and even that depends on your ethnicity. Plus it's not yet known if this is 100% effective, nor that a booster shot isn't needed some time in the future. Then there's side effects/reactions, including death, which are starting to pile up. Another problem is that it makes those who received this stuff think they are safe, which they are not, because there are still several other strains of papilloma virus which gardasil has no effect on, plus it causes young women to skip yearly pap smear testing which is still the only way cervical cancer can be detected in early stages while it's treatable.

The best way to prevent cervical cancer from exposure to papilloma virus is still abstinence, avoiding sex with multiple partners and partners who have had multiple partners. Other cancers can also be avoided by avoiding the pill, and practicing abstinence.

7 posted on 09/13/2009 7:36:24 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Paleo Conservative
Officials with Merck, which manufactures Gardasil, say the vaccine's benefits continue to outweigh its risks,

I did the math on this once, when Gardasil first came out. Less than 1% of the female population gets cervical cancer. What Merck actually means is that the profits are worth the risk.

8 posted on 09/13/2009 7:38:15 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Paleo Conservative

This is rubbish. Unless there is actual proof that the injections cause any problems, this is just another case of mass hysteria. How many other girls from her school got the vaccine? Of those that got the shots, how many of them are sick? Then let’s look at girls in her town or radiating out over 50 miles and see how many girls have come down with symptoms. Until a pattern can be determined, this girl’s accusation is based on no evidence what so ever.


9 posted on 09/13/2009 7:38:50 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"Officials with Merck, which manufactures Gardasil, say the vaccine's benefits continue to outweigh its risks"

Tell that to the 32 parents who buried their child because of a totally unnecessary and unproven vaccine.

Sue them for everything they have.

10 posted on 09/13/2009 7:41:50 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Paleo Conservative

from the article:
“On Wednesday, an FDA committee recommended that the vaccine be made available to boys and men.”

I don’t understand this.


11 posted on 09/13/2009 7:45:42 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Nathan Zachary

Others say it's likely a tragic coincidence. Tom Moore, an infectious disease physician and clinical professor at the University of Kansas School of Medicine-Wichita, said anecdotal cases like Gabi's are powerful but unscientific.
"Unfortunately, people get lupus all the time. They develop autoimmune conditions. And the disease is often diagnosed in girls in that age group," Moore said.

This statement really gets me. This is the same thing they say about autism. Thousands of parents swear their children changed right after receiving the vaccinations, but they say it is just a coincidence because that is the age they start showing signs of autism. 

 


12 posted on 09/13/2009 7:48:44 PM PDT by kara37
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To: Nathan Zachary
Plus it's not yet known if this is 100% effective, nor that a booster shot isn't needed some time in the future.

Last I heard, and it was somewhat recently, they've found the vaccine is only good for five years.

Imagine that.

13 posted on 09/13/2009 7:51:20 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ElayneJ

It prevents HPV (Human Papilloma Virus, an STD). Guys get this too....


14 posted on 09/13/2009 7:53:45 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL; Paleo Conservative

It’s also rubbish that the vaccine is needed at all.

Moral behavior and yearly PAP tests, can go much further to reducing the cervical cancer rate than anything else on the docket.

This was developed and marketed by Merck, hardly a name in the pharm industry associated with integrity considering some of the products they have marketed and the number of people those have killed.


15 posted on 09/13/2009 7:54:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kara37
Others say it's likely a tragic coincidence. Tom Moore, an infectious disease physician and clinical professor at the University of Kansas School of Medicine-Wichita, said anecdotal cases like Gabi's are powerful but unscientific.

Yeah, and until it's *scientific* they won't listen to reason.

So, how many people have to die before it becomes *scientific* evidence?

16 posted on 09/13/2009 7:55:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Born Conservative

HPV is a virus, not and STD. One type of the virus can cause genital warts. HPV can also go away on it’s own.


17 posted on 09/13/2009 7:56:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: netmilsmom
"Because cervical cancer runs in her family, "We thought what we were doing was protecting Gabi," Schrag said. "We didn't want to give cancer the opportunity to invade her body in any way."

Obviously Gabi's mother was misinformed as well. It doesn't not protect against those kind of cancers at all, just the ones (supposedly) that result from repeated infections from papilloma virus, which can only result from sex with multiple infected partners- a promiscuous lifestyle to put it politely.

And even then depending on ethnicity, it offers even less protection because some strains are more prevalent among certain ethnicities that Gardasil has no effect whatsoever on.

Abstinence, or a least a monogamous relationship with trusted partners and yearly pap smears are the best ways to prevent cervical cancers caused by repeated papilloma virus exposure, as well as other cancers.

18 posted on 09/13/2009 7:56:45 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: conservative cat

my girls aren’t getting it. over a year ago the doctor’s office tried to get my 13 year-old vaccinated. i said no way. esp. glad that i know it’s only “good” for 5 years and i had started to hear of the side effects.

i’[ve had a few talks with my girls regarding this vaccine, what it “protects” against and they only way they can be sure of not getting hpv, abstinence.


19 posted on 09/13/2009 7:58:31 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: DJ MacWoW
OK, not ALL strains cause STD's: Genital HPV infection is a sexually transmitted disease (STD) that is caused by human papillomavirus (HPV). Human papillomavirus is the name of a group of viruses that includes more than 100 different strains or types. More than 30 of these viruses are sexually transmitted, and they can infect the genital area of men and women including the skin of the penis, vulva (area outside the vagina), or anus, and the linings of the vagina, cervix, or rectum.
20 posted on 09/13/2009 7:59:22 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Honestly, that’s how the Christian Homeschoolers I know are looking at it.

The girls now know that sex with multiple partners can lead to cervical cancer by those commercials.

Nuff said.


21 posted on 09/13/2009 8:02:37 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Paleo Conservative
http://www.kansas.com/news/story/968761.html

print this article out and have ready in a folder to hand to anyone who suggests you get this done to your daughter = and NOW they want to give it to boys????

The insidiousness of pushing this at schools - and having these young people, who haven't the experience to be wary - and who don't want to be the only one that doesn't go with the crowd - is criminal.

At the most, a notice should be sent to the parents - NOTHING should be said to the school kids - and then only the kids whose parents want to risk it should be given these shots.

The gov’t (FDA - and DC politicians who invest in stock of these vaccines) is hooked up with the pharmaceutical co., to make money - and convincing everyone to take shots - more and more and more of them - is becoming an epidemic in itself, with us as guinea pigs. these vaccines are like Russian Roulette.

EXCEPRT: ..The CDC: “”A report issued last month raised new questions about Gardasil’s safety. The report by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control - CDC - and Prevention said the vaccine had been linked to 32 deaths and more than 700 serious or life-threatening complications, including fainting and blood clots.

At the same time, an analysis by the National Vaccine Information Center, a private vaccine safety group, found that women injected with Gardasil had triple the number of emergency room visits and up to 30 times the number of reported side effects as those given a meningitis vaccine.

“Now we know ... there are more reactions and deaths associated with Gardasil than with another vaccine given in the same age group,” said Barbara Fisher, president of the nonprofit group. “It's irresponsible not to take action.”

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We - and our children - are expendable. And you can bet that if obamacare gets through - you will have no choice...or your kids will be taken from you as bad parents - and given the shots anyway.

It seems that the politicians don't yet control the CDC - they are warning against this - and they are they are ones that say that the Swine flu is about as ‘bad’ as a cold or regular flu and that the possible side effects of the flu vaccine may not be worth taking it - and the gov’t wants people to take THREE shots this time. (Obama, when confronted with the question of why he had $50,000 invested in the company making the vaccine, he did not deny it - just said he ‘wasn't aware just when it was invested.)

The evil afoot in the country is frightening.

22 posted on 09/13/2009 8:03:28 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Was it the vaccine itself that caused the Lupus, or did she have a predisposition to Lupus that was set off by her immune system from getting a vaccine?

Also, the article makes it sound as if Lupus and cerebral vasculitis are 2 separate entities. Her vasculitis is probably directly related to the Lupus process.


23 posted on 09/13/2009 8:05:19 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: ElayneJ
"On Wednesday, an FDA committee recommended that the vaccine be made available to boys and men.” I don’t understand this."

neither do I. Papilloma virus is spread by contact. An infection clears up on it's own, unless they are reinfected before it does. Anyone coming into contact with this can easily spread it regardless if they were immune to the subsequent infection. And considering how sex is being promoted as an after school contact sport these days, vaccination or not, guys and girls can still spread it around, where the non-vaccinated will still develop the infection.

24 posted on 09/13/2009 8:05:30 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Paleo Conservative

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/cbsnews_investigates/main5253431.shtml

Gardasil Researcher Speaks Out
“Public Should Receive More Complete Warnings”


25 posted on 09/13/2009 8:05:47 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Born Conservative

Genital warts are more likely now than cervical cancer. So they try to scare people into getting this by using the cancer angle.


26 posted on 09/13/2009 8:08:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

http://www.judicialwatch.org/story/2008/may/judicial-watch-investigates-side-effects-hpv-vaccine

I’m not going to inject anything into my daughter with the budding reproductive system, thanks.

You’re more than welcome to take the risk with your daughter.


27 posted on 09/13/2009 8:08:17 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

You may want to reread my posts.


28 posted on 09/13/2009 8:09:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Paleo Conservative

An unbelievable tragedy based on the idea of preventing one. The fact that they had to fight and fight to find a doctor who would not blame it on stress, or worse making the victims feel crazy and not understood... I’m praying for healing and relief. So very sad. :-(


29 posted on 09/13/2009 8:11:26 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Born Conservative

I went through much the same as this girl did, although my “Lupus” turned out to be an overlap with systemic sclerosis (internal scleroderma)
These auto imune diseases are extremely hard to diagnose because the symtoms vary so widely and mimic other disease symptoms.

But, it’s becoming more and more evident that developing these kind of auto immune diseases is preceded by some kind of trauma, in my case it was surgery on my leg, but it could easily be anything that causes stress to the imune system.


30 posted on 09/13/2009 8:11:39 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DJ MacWoW

You said this

>>HPV is a virus, not and STD. One type of the virus can cause genital warts. HPV can also go away on it’s own.<<

Are you saying that this is not sexually transmitted?
Because if you are, the research is against you.


31 posted on 09/13/2009 8:12:43 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
This is rubbish. Unless there is actual proof that the injections cause any problems, this is just another case of mass hysteria.

Apparently, the CDC disagrees with you. But maybe you have more training?

Excerpt:

"A report issued last month raised new questions about Gardasil's safety. The report by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control - CDC - and Prevention said the vaccine had been linked to 32 deaths and more than 700 serious or life-threatening complications, including fainting and blood clots.

At the same time, an analysis by the National Vaccine Information Center, a private vaccine safety group, found that women injected with Gardasil had triple the number of emergency room visits and up to 30 times the number of reported side effects as those given a meningitis vaccine. "

Now we know ... there are more reactions and deaths associated with Gardasil than with another vaccine given in the same age group," said Barbara Fisher, president of the nonprofit group. "It's irresponsible not to take action."

32 posted on 09/13/2009 8:19:11 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: netmilsmom

What I said was true. Read the post that I was responding to. I was correcting a poster. Again, HPV is a sexually transmitted VIRUS. It often goes away on it’s own as per the CDC.


33 posted on 09/13/2009 8:21:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: maine-iac7

again, no direct link. Does the report actually show an actual link or is it just coincidental? Have you ever researched or done controlled studies before? Have you any science training or background? If so, you’d know that this is bull crap because if there was a direct causation, the vaccine would be pulled ASAP. I take it you don’t otherwise you’d know what I know.


34 posted on 09/13/2009 8:23:10 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Sorry to hear about your Scleroderma.

I’m very familiar with autoimmune diseases, as I work in a clinic that once had a Pediatric Rheumatologist. He had a handful of scleroderma patients, one of whom had Pansclerotic Morphea (a local scleroderma that affects the skin; there are only 30 some cases in the entire medical literature; extremely rare).

I’m not gung ho either way on this vaccine. Like any foreign substance we put in our body, there is a potential for adverse reaction, whether it be something as simple as eating peanuts and going into an anaphylactic reaction, taking an antibiotic and developing Stevens-Johnson Syndrome, or getting a vaccine and having a major adverse reaction. Many people believe that if the FDA clears something, that it is without risk. NOTHING is without risk. It’s all risk vs. benefit.

Given that there are SO many variables here, there may be something occurring from the vaccine that wasn’t picked up in the clinical trials.


35 posted on 09/13/2009 8:25:12 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"HPV is a sexually transmitted VIRUS. It often goes away on it’s own as per the CDC."

Still an STD, as most are viruses anyways. And yes, HPV does clear up on it's own. But repeated exposures causes changes to the cell structures of the cervix tissue, which can turn cancerous if not treated.

36 posted on 09/13/2009 8:25:23 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ElayneJ
I don’t understand this

Money, pure and simple

37 posted on 09/13/2009 8:25:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I used to counter anti-vaccine internet hysteria with facts and logic. But it's like trying to empty the Pacific ocean with a bucket. So I give up.

I'm ready to join the internet anti-vaccine zealots now.

Don't ever get any vaccine for any reason. Vaccines will kill you dead within five minutes of the shot. If you have been vaccinated for anything at any time in your life, cut off your arm to save yourself. In fact, if you even think about getting a vaccine for anything, you will get GBS instantly. No vaccine will protect you from any disease. Vaccines are a massive conspiracy designed by big pharm to take all of your money and kill you.

This is fun. I like being an anti-vaccine zealot.
38 posted on 09/13/2009 8:27:07 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: kara37
the ‘pharmas’ not only have powerful lobbyist in DC but there's a swinging door between the FDA and DC politicians.

It appears that many have a heads up about a new vaccine before it hits the market - and invest heavily while stock is new - and reap the benefits. They have a vested interest in pushing the vaccines - making more and more of them mandatory - kids now get a veritable soup of vaccines.

I appears the CDC is not yet corrupted - they warn against this and are ‘leery’ of the swine flu vaccine

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu

and the people who MAKE the vaccine aren't going to take it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0

Follow the money

39 posted on 09/13/2009 8:37:31 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Nathan Zachary

STD’s are usually viewed as a disease that needs medical treatment. Since HPV is more like a common cold, I don’t believe that it’s viewed the same as “the french disease” or the “clap”. I think only genital warts that are caused by a strain of HPV is the same. I don’t see the virus as being a disease itself but that it may cause one. I understand if others view it differently.


40 posted on 09/13/2009 8:38:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: mysterio

It’s a well known FACT that there is a risk associated with vaccines, and some people are sensitive to the base metals used in them as well.

I don’t think it’s funny at all. People should be aware of these risks, as well as the risks of NOT getting some vaccines.
Concerning Garasil, this is far from a proven vaccine, and the higher than normal rates of complications is something to be concerned about, especially considering it isn’t all that effective in the first place.


41 posted on 09/13/2009 8:38:15 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: metmom

you say “This was developed and marketed by Merck, hardly a name in the pharm industry associated with integrity considering some of the products they have marketed and the number of people those have killed.”

So right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0


42 posted on 09/13/2009 8:39:05 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: DJ MacWoW

HPV infections often cause a worried “victim?” to rush to the hospital in shame. There isn’t much that can be done about it other than prescribing some lotions. It can often lead to secondary staff infections as well.


43 posted on 09/13/2009 8:45:29 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: machogirl
Frightening - even a Dr. at Merck who helped develop this vaccine doesn't recommend it

“She also says that enough serious side effects have been reported after Gardasil use that the vaccine could prove riskier than the cervical cancer it purports to prevent. Cervical cancer is usually entirely curable when detected early through normal Pap screenings.”

thanks for the link

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/cbsnews_investigates/main5253431.shtml

44 posted on 09/13/2009 8:46:49 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Nathan Zachary
HPV infections often cause a worried “victim?” to rush to the hospital in shame.

Do you mean genital warts? They do have drugs that sort of control outbreaks. My son makes fun of the commercials. You don't wanna know! LOL

45 posted on 09/13/2009 8:50:13 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: maine-iac7

Gardasil may actually prove to cause an increase of cervical cancer cases because women thinking they are “protected” may put off getting an annual pap smear.
Time will tell as all these young girls get into their twenties and thirties.


46 posted on 09/13/2009 8:52:43 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: maine-iac7

“Money, pure and simple”

But they’re trying to take a vaccine for cervical cancer and market it to men and boys. I must be missing something.


47 posted on 09/13/2009 8:54:28 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Nathan Zachary
It’s a well known FACT that there is a risk associated with vaccines, and some people are sensitive to the base metals used in them as well.

Which is why you should immediately amputate your arm to alleviate some of the risk.

I don’t think it’s funny at all.

Me neither. There's a time for everything, and now is the time to panic over vaccines.

Concerning Garasil, this is far from a proven vaccine, and the higher than normal rates of complications is something to be concerned about, especially considering it isn’t all that effective in the first place.

That's true. I trust this post more than I trust the number of peer-reviewed articles that don't support this statement.

Also, I hear the flu vaccine causes sore eyes and curly hair.
48 posted on 09/13/2009 8:54:37 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: DJ MacWoW

No no, just unusual inflammation of soft tissues. Sometimes they can look quite alarming.


49 posted on 09/13/2009 8:55:46 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DJ MacWoW

like cellulosis


50 posted on 09/13/2009 8:56:48 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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