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Lord of the Rings Author (JRR) Tolkien 'Trained as Spy'
Herald Sun ^ | September 17, 2009

Posted on 09/16/2009 9:46:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway

LORD of the Rings author JRR Tolkien trained as a spy in the years leading up to World War II, it has emerged.

The Oxford University professor - who also wrote The Hobbit - was one of 50 intellectuals chosen by the British Government singled out to crack Nazi codes as it appeared increasingly likely Germany was preparing to declare war.

Tolkien was reknown as one of his generation's most respected linguists, and according to The Sun, was believed to have passed the training course “with flying colours”. Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar.

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He was offered the job at the famous Bletchley Park code-breaking centre, but for reasons unknown, turned it and its £50,000 ($94,000) salary down. The staff at Bletchley Park would later achieve fame worldwide by cracking the Enigma code and saving Britain by helping its navy intercept and destroy Hitler's U-boats.

The Daily Telegraph reports Tolkien - a professor of Anglo Saxon at Oxford University from 1925 to 1945 - visited the base for three consecutive days in March 1939.

A record of his training carries the word ''keen'' beside his name, but he refused the job and went on to complete his Lord of the Rings trilogy.

"We simply don't know why he didn't join,” a spokesman for the UK Government's spy base said.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: espionage; lotr; tolkien; worldwarii
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1 posted on 09/16/2009 9:46:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv; HairOfTheDog; John Farson

Ping


2 posted on 09/16/2009 9:47:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
FWIW, he sent the first draft of The Fellowship of the Ring to his son Christopher, who was flying for the RAF in North Africa. In serial format, hand-typed. Now those are some letters from home!
3 posted on 09/16/2009 9:50:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Saruman is based on Rommel?


4 posted on 09/16/2009 9:52:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
You left off the last sentence of the article:

“Perhaps it was because we declared war on Germany and not Mordor.”

5 posted on 09/16/2009 9:53:47 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: nickcarraway
Well, now we know from whence he derived Orc-speech, such as:

"Uglúk u bagronk sha pushdug Saruman-glob búb-hosh skai"

Listening to Hitler's speeches, eh?

Cheers!

6 posted on 09/16/2009 9:54:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nickcarraway
Perhaps he was clairvoyant also and Sauron is Obozo.
7 posted on 09/16/2009 9:55:34 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: nickcarraway
He was offered the job at the famous Bletchley Park code-breaking centre, but for reasons unknown, turned it and its £50,000 ($94,000) salary down.

I find it hard to believe that in that era, he would have been offered so much money. A Spitfire in 1940 had a production cost of about $25,000. A P-51 mustang had a production cost of about $50,000.

8 posted on 09/16/2009 9:56:17 PM PDT by fso301
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To: grey_whiskers

John_Rhys Davies compared the baddies to Islam. He had been a lib until he went to see Thatcher give a speech. He was there to heckle her. He left being a conservative.


9 posted on 09/16/2009 9:57:19 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Billthedrill

He also did a Beowulf analysis that was fantastic, and I think it was he who also did the best Sir Gawain and the Green Knight I have ever read.

parsy, who has a tape of him/son reading the Beren and Luthien Tenuvial poem, which is like a half hour of so of pure ecstasy


10 posted on 09/16/2009 9:58:13 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: nickcarraway
Tolkien was reknown...

That should be: Tolkien was renowned...

Oh well, even writers about linguists can misspell occasionally.

11 posted on 09/16/2009 9:59:21 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: nickcarraway

Tolkien is also listed as one of the “principal collaborators in translation and literary revision” of the Jerusalem Bible. I own a copy of this Bible and find it very readable (if not always lyrical), and really enjoy its informative and insightful footnotes.


12 posted on 09/16/2009 10:01:58 PM PDT by milagro
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Tolkien is also listed as one of the “principal collaborators in translation and literary revision” of the Jerusalem Bible. I own a copy of this Bible and find it very readable (if not always lyrical), and really enjoy its informative and insightful footnotes.


13 posted on 09/16/2009 10:02:01 PM PDT by milagro
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To: nickcarraway

A world without Legolas is a world I wouldn't want to live in.:)

14 posted on 09/16/2009 10:05:42 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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“...but he refused the job and went on to complete his Lord of the Rings trilogy.”

That might be the reason right there. You’ve got to have your priorities set and not let a little old World War get in the way. Probably for the better, too.


15 posted on 09/16/2009 10:19:16 PM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Stupid.)
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“with flying colours”

Pretty wild eh?


16 posted on 09/16/2009 10:23:01 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
I didn't leave it off- The Telegraph makes you excerpt.
17 posted on 09/16/2009 10:42:51 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; Corin Stormhands; RosieCotton; Rose in RoseBear; Lil'freeper

Philology Ping!!


18 posted on 09/16/2009 10:49:12 PM PDT by SuziQ
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bookmark


19 posted on 09/16/2009 10:50:53 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: stripes1776

One minor Irony....In “Hobbit” Tolkien misspelled “Dwarfs” as “Dwarves”.


20 posted on 09/16/2009 10:58:31 PM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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