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Yost Says You're Not Frightened Enough
Rhinoceros Times ^ | August 27, 2009 | Scott D. Yost

Posted on 09/19/2009 8:33:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Here are just a few more things to fear that you might not have considered fearing. If you're one of those oblivious people who's not living in constant fear of these things, you need to wake up and put on your pants one leg at a time or expect to pay the pied piper.

Killer asteroids. According to Julie Luck, there are 20,000 asteroids just flying like crazy around our solar system ready to slam into Earth at any moment and either completely pulverize the planet or, hopefully, merely wreak massive death and destruction from the skies.

A June 2003 National Geographic news service article states: "It is almost certain that Earth will be hit by an asteroid large enough to exterminate a large percentage of our planet's life, including possibly over a billion people, according to researchers."

The article goes on to say no one knows when that might happen -- which means it could be any moment now.

Recently a large asteroid passed very near Earth. We don't worry nearly enough about this form of potential catastrophe.

The good thing about Twitter is that now there is a Twitter stream from NASA that will tweet you whenever a killer asteroid is barreling toward Earth about to blow the planet to smithereens. There's still nothing we can do about it, but at least we can spend our last hours doing what we enjoy if you know what I mean.

(Excerpt) Read more at greensboro.rhinotimes.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: asteroids; catastrophism; nasa
Yeah, it's tongue-in-cheek. :')
1 posted on 09/19/2009 8:33:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 09/19/2009 8:33:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL.

THX.


3 posted on 09/19/2009 8:35:30 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have my asteroid proof Acme umbrella so I’m good.


4 posted on 09/19/2009 8:43:02 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: Quix

You’re w.


5 posted on 09/19/2009 8:48:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: dog breath

“Allow me to introduce myself, my name is mud.”


6 posted on 09/19/2009 8:48:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Just so it’s your job to keep those things crashing into . . . say . . . the Atlantic off D.C.???

LOL.

You’re a treasure hereon. Your threads are interesting to ponder.


7 posted on 09/19/2009 8:49:42 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Mecca.


8 posted on 09/19/2009 8:51:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Unfortunately, the risk is real.


9 posted on 09/19/2009 9:04:46 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: SunkenCiv

Does my renter's insurance cover this?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

10 posted on 09/19/2009 9:05:09 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Works for me . . . preferably during a . . . mass gathering.


11 posted on 09/19/2009 9:19:46 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: The Comedian

This world is not our home.

just renting.


12 posted on 09/19/2009 9:20:28 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SunkenCiv
This reminds me, time to blow up Stonehenge again....

13 posted on 09/19/2009 9:22:10 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: SunkenCiv
Recently a large asteroid passed very near Earth. We don't worry nearly enough about this form of potential catastrophe.

Hard to believe that it's a slow news week. Here an American subculture is dismantling the Republic brick by brick, and some people insist on a variant of the entertainment reality shows, "We are all doomed!"

If you knew for certain that an ELE (extinction-Level Event) were to strike in two weeks, what would a mentally healthy human's reaction be? Gather his extended family and make sure they all spent their final days of life in mental agony or worse? Or allow them a final two weeks of normalcy and enjoying the small and large pleasures of life? No further comment about that...

Now let's talk about lies, damned lies and statistics. Meaningful statistics, by definition, deal with huge chunks of time or myriad events. That's what makes the global warming/weather debate so meaningless. Statisticians know, for example, that if an event occurs once every 600,000 years, and it's been 1,200,000 years since the last one, we are not necessarily expecting one any day now. Depends if the announcement is based on 2 previous events or 2000 of them. And it matters if the record suggest evenly spaced events or random occurences which average once every 600,000 years. Ninety-five percent of educated humans are math ignorant. The resulting hand-wringing is the inevitable result. Even scientists, who should know better, fall into the melodrama trap; hence the glut of poorly made neurotic hysterical computer generated (and meaningless) "documentaries" encouraging total 24/7 phobias. It's adding insult to injury when organizations line National Geographic, The Science Channel and the "Learning" channel lead the hysteria.

Most sane people know that "Ghost Hunters," and other similar TV programs are pointless wastes of time based on acting to maintain a high level of dramatic tension. That the "Science" segment of the entertainment spectrum feel compelled to join the stampede for ratings only makes things worse, and really confounds the underlying issues.

Yes Dorothy, a 200-year event can occur two years in a row, or every 2000 years or every 200,000. That's the math reality. Depends entirely on the total length of the reliable record. This discussion is never presented (most people wouldn't understand it, even if they had the attention span to actually watch it.)

Among the wisest words to live by" Dear God, give me the patience to suffer the things that I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom [and I should add here the effort] to know the difference.

14 posted on 09/19/2009 9:28:01 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: SunkenCiv
” Wile E. Coyote...Supergenius!” We will figure out how to defeat those asteroids! Maybe something that explodes in space.
15 posted on 09/19/2009 9:48:54 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: SunkenCiv
” Wile E. Coyote...Supergenius!” We will figure out how to defeat those asteroids! Maybe something that explodes in space.
16 posted on 09/19/2009 9:49:09 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: SunkenCiv

As I’ve pointed out here before, the Earth could be wiped out by any number of things and right now all of our eggs are in one basket. That’s why it’s valuable to get off of the planet. But thanks to the “forward looking” Obama administration, which has been cutting funding to NASA among other things, it’s become more likely that we’ll wind up living in caves rather than on other planets.


17 posted on 09/19/2009 10:05:59 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Publius6961; SunkenCiv; blam; All

Another significant boloid event apparently occurred on or around August 13, 1930. This would have coincided with the passage of the Perseid Meteor Showers. While it was not as big as Tungusku, it still shook up this sparsely settled area of Brazil.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&num=100&newwindow=1&q=Asteroid+event+in+Brazil%2C+1930s&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=


18 posted on 09/19/2009 4:20:48 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
I probably have something about that somewhere, but meanwhile:
Target: South America
by William Corliss
Circa December 11, 1935. British Guiana (now Guyana). Only five years after the Brazilian event, a large bolide apparently smashed into the jungle of Guyana. Buried in the library stacks, we found a mostly forgotten trio of reports on the 1935 event in a 1939 issue of The Sky, predecessor of Sky & Telescope. The articles suggest that the devastated area "may equal or exceed that of the great Siberian meteor of 1908."

19 posted on 09/20/2009 2:52:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Andrew Ellicott Douglass and the Big Trees
by Donald J McGraw
"[A]s early as 1729 the French biologist Comte de Buffon had suggested that tree rings record local weather history."
A Celestial Collision
by Larry Gedney
Early in the evening of June 18, 1178, a group of men near Canterbury, England, stood admiring the sliver of a new moon hanging low in the west. In terms they later described to a monk who recorded their sighting, "Suddenly a flaming torch sprang from the moon, spewing fire, hot coals and sparks." In continuing their description of the event, they reported that "The moon writhed like a wounded snake and finally took on a blackish appearance." The sighting of an asteroid strike on the moon, with an attendant brilliant flash, is an entirely believable possibility.
Evidence Of Tunguska-type Impacts Over The Pacific Basin Around The Year 1178 A.D.
by Emilio Spedicato
Was planet Earth, whose cross section is much larger than the Moon's (by a factor about 15), also impacted around the year 1178? Preliminary to this question: was the Earth crossing a stream around 1178? Then, if the Earth was hit, where was the event or the events and which were the consequences? Chinese astronomers, who were routinely recording comets and fireballs, show a very clear peak of sightings around the middle of the 12th century, the peak being over ten times higher than the average background. It is interesting to notice that a similar peak is also present at about half the 6th century, a time when, according to several Byzant[ine] historians quoted by Gibbon.

When the hidden face of the Moon was first photographed by a lunar mission, a large and clearly very recently produced crater was visible near the lunar north polar region. It was named the Giordano Bruno crater. Its recent origin is shown by the absence of secondary superimposed craters. The crater is considered to have been produced by a cometary or meteoritic impact with a body of 2-3 kilometers size, implying an energy in the range of hundred of million of megatons. The year of the impact might well be 1178 A.D., thereby explaining the observations recorded in the Canterbury annals, as first proposed apparently by Hartung.

By the above arguments, the following question naturally arises: was planet Earth, whose cross section is much larger than the Moon's (by a factor about 15), also impacted around the year 1178? Preliminary to this question: was the Earth crossing a stream around 1178? Then, if the Earth was hit, where was the event or the events and which were the consequences?
Some young up and comer published the ridiculous claim that had this 1178 AD event been an impact on the Moon, people everywhere would have reported unusually large numbers of shooting stars, and that since there are no such reports (that he's been able to find -- no doubt having combed all the surviving 12th century archives in multiple archaic languages, eh?) there must not have been an impact. The idea that such stupidity is still rewarded by a postgrad or postdoc degrees is a crime.
Meteor Stream Key To Earth's Climate
by Dr Victor Clube
Whipple and Hamid accurately retrocalculated the orbits of a number of meteors to indicate that several major fragmentations have taken place during the last five thousand years. The most significant of these events took place around 3000 BC due to an encounter in the asteroid belt; another was deemed to have occurred around AD 500, with possibly yet another in the second half of the second millennium BC. The epochs around 3000 and 1300 BC in particular correspond to significant deteriorations in the global climate for two or three centuries or more. It is known from other studies that a correlation exists between global rainfall and the incidence of meteor dust on the earth; so the indications now are for a considerable degree of climatic control by the Taurid-Arietid stream. Indeed, its giant comet is likely to have produced the last ice age whilst modulating the climate during the subsequent interglacial through the intermediary of stratospheric dust veils.
Rain of Iron and Ice
by John S. Lewis
On November 27,1919, a meteorite fell into Lake Michigan near the Michigan shore. "Residents of Battle Creek, Kalamazoo, South Bend, Grand Haven, and other Western Michigan cities fled from their homes in panic, fearing an earthquake. Houses were shaken, the country was illuminated as by a bright sun's rays, so all-enveloping it was impossible to tell from which direction the flare came, the earth trembled for half a moment and then came a deep prolonged rumbling as of a terrific explosion." (p 159)
Huge Fireball Explosion In 1994
by Dr Victor Clube
"It is therefore not surprising that the 10-meter-or-so asteroid that blew up over a largely vacant area of the western Pacific on February 1, 1994, producing an explosion equivalent to at least ten times that of the Hiroshima bomb (and possibly rather more), was not seen prior to impact. Surveillance satellites registered it as the brightest such explosion that they have picked up so far. Despite the efforts of numerous scientists in this area of study to make the military aware that such detonations do occur naturally, it appears that the U.S. President was awakened because the Pentagon thought that this incident might be a hostile nuclear explosion."
Wabar
The first date assigned to the event, based on fission-track analysis in the early 1970s of glass samples that found their way to the British Museum and the Smithsonian Institution, placed it about 6,400 years ago. The results from thermoluminescence dating, prepared by John Prescott and Gillian Robertson of the University of Adelaide, suggest that the event took place less than 450 years ago. [seen also in msg 29 of this thread]
Physics News Update
by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben Stein
New information about the mineralogical composition of the far side's crust was recorded and pictures revealed the largest impact basin yet seen on the moon, more than 2000 km in diameter and so deep that is may have penetrated through the crust to the moon's mantle.
And yet the Moon is moving away from the Earth.
Physics News Update
by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben Stein
Data from military satellites being made public for the first time reveal the scope of these meteoroid blasts: an average of 8 events a year were observed to have an energy equivalent to a small nuclear bomb, although the true occurrence may be 10 times larger. Much of the military data were originally gathered in an attempt to discriminate between meteoroid blasts and manmade nuclear explosions.

20 posted on 09/20/2009 2:53:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Using small asteroids to destroy every last one of our enemies — making it look like an accident of course — seems like the best of all space program spinoffs.


21 posted on 09/20/2009 3:03:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Quix

As always, a bunch of people got killed on the Hajj this year. Some years ago a group of Turkish pilgrims got trampled to death by a frightened horde of “worshippers” at the annual cast stones at the dead goat ceremony. They’d set down their suitcases, and when they turned to flee the oncoming crowd, tripped over their own luggage.


22 posted on 09/20/2009 3:09:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: struggle

I was hopin’ someone would take care of that.


23 posted on 09/20/2009 3:09:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: dog breath

Using smaller rocks against bigger rocks is probably the best approach, given enough lead time.


24 posted on 09/20/2009 3:10:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: The Comedian

Could be, but good luck getting anyone to answer the phone at the claims number.


25 posted on 09/20/2009 3:10:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Rockingham

Quite.


26 posted on 09/20/2009 3:10:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

OUCH.

Gotta hate it when that happens.


27 posted on 09/20/2009 5:21:00 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

I checked out the link from Emilio Spedicato. It was from an Italian University, written in Italian, but it had nothing to do with astronomical events. Can you find the correct entry, I really would like to read it, even if it is in Italian?


28 posted on 09/21/2009 7:07:18 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: SunkenCiv; All

I also tried the “Wabar” link but it is also a bust. In the 1970’s there was a National Geographic article about a contributing author who was taken by some Saudi’s to find and iron meteor in the Rub al Kali (Empty Quarter). They finally located it. It was at least 4 feet in diameter and 2 to 3 feet thick. Much too heavy to take home. It was sitting in a crater type depression around 200 feet in diameter. Local tradition was that it destroyed a sinful city (echos of Soddom and Gommorah).

I am wondering if this was from a more recent strike, but that perhaps the whole Empty Quarter was sterilized several thousand years ago by a strike that left the biblical and local stories of “sin city”. Any info out there?


29 posted on 09/21/2009 7:14:08 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

There wasn’t a strike, as it turned out, which destroyed a “sin city”. During the Middle Ages there was a quake, and the town was heavily undermined with storage cellars, hidey-holes, and that kind of thing. The impacting object they found fell in the last hundred years or so. :’(


30 posted on 09/22/2009 5:01:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: gleeaikin
Kinda careless on my part not to have that in a file someplace. Kinda odd too. Anyway, here's the search link which should yield some copies:
Wayback Machine

31 posted on 09/22/2009 5:10:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: gleeaikin

A Catastrophical Scenario for Discontinuities in Human History
Journal of New England Antiquities Research Association, 26, 1-14, 1991
1st version published in 1985 as Quaderno 85/3 | Emilio Spedicato - U of Bergamo
Posted on 04/19/2002 12:42:27 PM PDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669263/posts


32 posted on 09/22/2009 5:32:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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