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Did you just hear Kucinich? {IDIOT}

Posted on 09/23/2009 1:39:57 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant

Speaking about the need for health care on Fox Business, he quoted Jesus. He reminded us that Jesus said, ... "when I was hungry, did you feed me? When I was sick, did you care for me?"


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KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; kucinich; religiousleft; wwjd
This guy might as well remind us that Jesus also said, ... "give to Ceasar [The Democrats] what is Ceasar's, and give to God what is God!"

More importantly, someone should tell the congressman that Jesus said, ... "GOD helps those who help themselves!"

1 posted on 09/23/2009 1:39:57 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
So the mythical "separation of Church and State" is only operative when convenient?
2 posted on 09/23/2009 1:41:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Content is everything.

The Bible also says if you don’t work, you don’t eat.


3 posted on 09/23/2009 1:41:54 PM PDT by mom4melody
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
"More importantly, someone should tell the congressman that Jesus said, ... "GOD helps those who help themselves!" "

I'll agree with your first sentence, but in point of fact it was Benjamin Franklin that said the second, not Jesus - FWIW.

4 posted on 09/23/2009 1:42:55 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

maybe he would like to further misquote. by context, other verses of the Bible.

“Am I my brothers keeper” Cain speaking to God, after murdering his brother Abel.

Barry O. constantly misquotes the Bible saying “As the Bible says, I am my brother’s keeper”.


No you and I are not except in the vein of deceit to cover your misdeed.


5 posted on 09/23/2009 1:43:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

St. Paul:

“For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.”

The 7th commandment: “You shall not steal.”


6 posted on 09/23/2009 1:43:49 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Depends on the Church and their doctrine.


7 posted on 09/23/2009 1:43:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

I didn’t know Jesus said that to the Roman Senate.


8 posted on 09/23/2009 1:44:00 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: mom4melody
...and you will note that it wasn't the Roman government He was petitioning for "health care" but asking after the kindness of the individual's own charity. Jesus most certainly didn't threaten to apply additional taxes if charity wasn't fothcoming.
9 posted on 09/23/2009 1:44:06 PM PDT by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

“when I was hungry, did you feed me? When I was sick, did you care for me?”

And when I gave you the shirt off my back did you ask me “what else you got?”


10 posted on 09/23/2009 1:44:10 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Actually that’s not in the Scriptures. But I do agree that Kucinich is quoting Jesus way out of the original context. It’s a stretch to take those words and infer that if you don’t follow the socialist Obama agenda that you are not following the words of our Lord Jesus. I can just as easily argue that the Obama plan will prevent me from following those commands by giving the power to the State and not allowing me as an individual to live up to the ideal behavior Jesus commands.


11 posted on 09/23/2009 1:44:14 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

>> “when I was hungry, did you feed me? When I was sick, did you care for me?”

Jesus did say these things. To INDIVIDUALS. Individuals should practice charity. Voluntarily.

Government handouts are not charity. Charity is not “rob peter to pay paul”.

Jesus did NOT say, “When did you vote to have your government rob others at gunpoint to feed me and care for me?”


12 posted on 09/23/2009 1:44:14 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

I guess Dennis isn’t clear who He was referring to as “You.” Dennis thinks that means, “make someone else do it.”


13 posted on 09/23/2009 1:44:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
Jesus said: ".... when I was hungry, did you feed me? When I was sick, did you care for me?"

He did not say: ".... when I was hungry, did the government feed me? When I was sick, did the government care for me?"

The responsibility for charity rests with individuals, not with the government.

15 posted on 09/23/2009 1:44:40 PM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Just so ya know, Jesus never said that. AND it’s not Biblical, just popular ... as in “praise the Lord and pass the ammunition”


16 posted on 09/23/2009 1:45:00 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

“More importantly, someone should tell the congressman that Jesus said, ... “GOD helps those who help themselves!”

Maybe not! The saying originated from Algernon Sydney in 1698 in an article titled Discourses Concerning Government.


17 posted on 09/23/2009 1:45:09 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: OldDeckHand

Ben Franklin? Thanks for that. A couple of more mis-quotes and I could become an honorary dummicrap


18 posted on 09/23/2009 1:45:26 PM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant (Where is the Court of Common Sense?)
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To: agrarianlady

That is right.

If a man be unwilling to put in a days work, let not that man eat.


19 posted on 09/23/2009 1:45:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: tired1

Good one


20 posted on 09/23/2009 1:46:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So the mythical "separation of Church and State" is only operative when convenient?

It's NOT mythical when it's being used to stop Christmas decorations...

21 posted on 09/23/2009 1:47:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or not -what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: OldDeckHand

Jesus? Oh please, are you one of those...? /s


22 posted on 09/23/2009 1:47:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: blue-duncan
"Maybe not! The saying originated from Algernon Sydney in 1698 in an article titled Discourses Concerning Government."

Oh, I believe you're right. Franklin (in Poor Richards Almanac) is actually quoting someone else - probably Sydney.

23 posted on 09/23/2009 1:48:21 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Is Representative Pipsqueak Nutball now calling for a state sponsored religion?


24 posted on 09/23/2009 1:48:26 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: The Unknown Republican
I can just as easily argue that the Obama plan will prevent me from following those commands by giving the power to the State and not allowing me as an individual to live up to the ideal behavior Jesus commands.

I agree. It would be like saying the victims of Robin Hood were very giving and charitable because they were forced to relinquish their valuables which were, in turn, given to the poor. They involunatarily fed the poor, not much virtue in that.
25 posted on 09/23/2009 1:48:56 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Blueflag

I have even heard some say Jesus was a socialist!


26 posted on 09/23/2009 1:49:38 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
He may want to remind himself of something......

When he ran for President, did anyone vote for him?

No.

27 posted on 09/23/2009 1:50:30 PM PDT by edpc (Spay and neuter your liberals)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

I don’t think Jesus was addressing the Roman government when he said this . . . big difference.


28 posted on 09/23/2009 1:50:46 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: The Unknown Republican
But I do agree that Kucinich is quoting Jesus way out of the original context.

Jesus wasn't banging on Herod's door demanding that he (as the "government") feed, clothe, and heal everyone in his realm. Nor was he harassing Roman authorities over the issue. That has never been the role of Government.

My own church just helped my family with a very large insurance-not-covered health bill. THAT's the context.

29 posted on 09/23/2009 1:51:04 PM PDT by alancarp (Obama: treat the unborn with AT LEAST as much respect as you do terrorists!!)
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To: GOPJ
It's NOT mythical when it's being used to stop Christmas decorations...

It's always mythical.

You're not supposed to ignore the second part of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

30 posted on 09/23/2009 1:53:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: mom4melody

“The Bible also says if you don’t work, you don’t eat.”
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Citation please?


31 posted on 09/23/2009 1:53:42 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
... "give to Ceasar [The Democrats] what is Ceasar's, and give to God what is God!"

And God only wants 10%.

32 posted on 09/23/2009 1:54:42 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: awake-n-angry

2 Thessalonians 3:10

For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.


33 posted on 09/23/2009 1:57:56 PM PDT by mom4melody
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

GOD helps those who help themselves

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I don’t remember ever seeing that in scripture, although God did say....if a man won’t work he won’t eat.


34 posted on 09/23/2009 1:58:29 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

He breached the brick wall between religion and state. If you breach you must impeach.


35 posted on 09/23/2009 1:59:00 PM PDT by DManA
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To: awake-n-angry

2 Thes 3:10


36 posted on 09/23/2009 2:01:45 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: awake-n-angry
“The Bible also says if you don’t work, you don’t eat.”

Citation please?


2 Thess. 3:10-15 “For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat." 11We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat. 13And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right. 14If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. 15Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.”
37 posted on 09/23/2009 2:10:00 PM PDT by philled (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.-- GB Shaw)
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To: OldDeckHand
RE: "GOD helps those who help themselves!"

My Dad always said that so I figured that it came directly from the Holy Book.

38 posted on 09/23/2009 2:15:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
Jesus said, ... "GOD helps those who help themselves!"

That was Gene Hackman, as the priest in "The Poisiden Adventure."

39 posted on 09/23/2009 2:19:45 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Jesus did not say, “When I was hungry, did you shake down your neighbors to feed me?” “When I was thirsty, did you force fellow citizens to provide for me under threat of prison?”

Personal charity and extorting money from hardworking taxpayers are two entirely different things.


40 posted on 09/23/2009 2:22:42 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

It’s ok. I used to think “to thine own self be true” was in the Bible, too. Nope, Shakespeare.


41 posted on 09/23/2009 2:24:03 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: alancarp

My own church just blessed us with a substantial need covered, also. No one made them do it. God bless them.


42 posted on 09/23/2009 2:24:56 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

“when I was an idiot, did you humor me?”


43 posted on 09/23/2009 2:41:47 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
Proverbs 10

I think the idea is that God does bless those who work and are diligent.

He gave us all kinds of rules to help us be happy and healthy.

Now, there are certainly times when we need charity. He provides for that, too. But in general, He highly approves and encourages us to work and be productive. That's how He made us.

That's why stealing from honest taxpayers is so sinful and leads to wretchedness among the people.

44 posted on 09/23/2009 2:42:09 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
What did Jesus say about bankrupting your town?
45 posted on 09/23/2009 2:43:36 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: mom4melody

Yes Most lose the concept that every single able bodied man was taught a trade back then. The poor were truly poor.

Most were poor from disease or disabilities, famine, death of a husband and such. They were not like the poor we have today..and the poor of today would not have been poor at all back then. Jesus believed in hard work.


46 posted on 09/23/2009 2:59:57 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Hey Volt....My F-150 got 100,000 miles to a single battery.)
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To: Vendome

It’s not only Obama that misinterprets this verse, but I’ve heard too many preachers and teachers in the church screw this up, too. The answer to Cain’s question, “Am I my brother’s keeper,” is NO! Of course Cain isn’t his brother’s keeper. God isn’t even our keeper. He loves us and cares for us, but he isn’t our jailer. We aren’t our brother’s warden either. This misinterpretation is taken up by the liberals and statists. The government is NOW our keeper. There is nothing more demonic than this.


47 posted on 09/23/2009 4:33:23 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: awake-n-angry

Jesus also said, “The poor you always have with you.”


48 posted on 09/23/2009 4:57:19 PM PDT by Phantom4
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To: Nosterrex

That is “Misquote” intentionally.

He means to deceive.

He is a Deceiver.


49 posted on 09/23/2009 5:48:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Jesus also said to obey the commandments; one of them is thou shalt not steal.


50 posted on 09/23/2009 8:14:39 PM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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