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Posted on 09/30/2009 3:54:29 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

First of all, I am not much of a TV watcher of shows having to do with past blowhard philosophers and such, but my son is learning about planets at school now and we decided to watch The History Channel one night, just for the heck of it.

So, I was watching a program there about a week ago referring to Nostradamus' ('Nostra' for short) predictions, followed by a program regarding Leonardo DaVinci's predictions, and I was perplexed by something that Nostra "saw" in one of his many visions, which included visions of what or who would be causing chaos around the world in the next 400 years or so.

Nostra "saw" the one who became Napoleon Bonaparte, and saw the word "CORSICA" about 200 years before Napoleon was born. It just so happens that Napoleon was born in Corsica and was disastrous for France and Europe.

Later, the program shows that Nostra "saw" the word "HISTER", and a vision of a man from Europe wreaking chaos in the 20th Century. Experts believe "HISTER" was Hitler.

Next, Nostra "saw" the name MABUS. No one knows what MABUS is, and experts on the show said that MABUS has not yet happened on this planet. No one associated with the show could decipher what MABUS is.

But I immediately thought: MABUS stands for "MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD BOMBS UNITED STATES". My family laughed at me, but I was dead serious.

Thoughts??


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1 posted on 09/30/2009 3:54:29 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: Perdogg

TV question ping.


2 posted on 09/30/2009 3:54:51 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Nostradamus, as I understand it, heard murmuring voices coming out of hot coals. Somebody correct me if that’s not what was attributed to him.

I would avoid Nostradamus and trust the Word of God which accurately predicted Israel’s rebirth (Isaiah 66:8) from a prophecy of about 2,500 years ago.


3 posted on 09/30/2009 3:58:50 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Many A-Holes Believe Underwear Stinks.


4 posted on 09/30/2009 3:58:59 PM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
If you are correct...there's nothing you can do about it.
If you are wrong...do the same thing. Live your life to the fullest and keep moving forward.
5 posted on 09/30/2009 3:59:30 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Ex-Miss. Gov. Mabus confirmed as US Navy secretary
7:34 p.m. May 19, 2009
JACKSON, Miss. — Former Mississippi Gov. Ray Mabus has been sworn-in as secretary of the U.S. Navy.
The U.S. Department of Defense says the ceremony took place Tuesday, a day after the Senate voted unanimously in Washington, D.C., to confirm Mabus to the Navy’s top civilian job. Mabus succeeds Donald C. Winter.
Mabus, who’s now 60, served in the Navy from 1970-72 as a surface warfare officer. The Democrat was Mississippi governor from 1988-92. He was U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia from 1994-96 under President Bill Clinton.
During 2008, Mabus campaigned extensively for Democrat Barack Obama. Now president, Obama nominated Mabus for the Navy post in late March.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/19/ms-navy-secretary-mabus-051909/


6 posted on 09/30/2009 3:59:40 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: F15Eagle

True, but why on earth would a ‘reputable’ cable network like The History Channel devote an hour to this man??


7 posted on 09/30/2009 3:59:59 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

there is no proof whatsoever that nostra was seeing that far into the future or into any future at all. he was probably a dissident dedicated to not being tortured and murdered who couched his criticism of the regime of the time in conveniently vague “predictions of future events”.


8 posted on 09/30/2009 4:00:11 PM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

THE THIRD AND FINAL ANTICHRIST... MABUS
Mabus

The Candidates for Mabus.

The prophet forged visions into cryptic verse after sitting alone in a state of trance in nightly vigils locked away in his secret upstairs study in Salon Provence summoning what he called “angelic emissaries from God” to his aid. In the mid-1550s, he received from them words, sounds and twilit images warning about a third and final antichrist that has yet to fully reveal himself. This man is described in a prophecy indexed 10 Q72 (Century 10, Quatrain 72) as, The king of terror. He will enter the world stage, descending from distant future skies, In the year 1999 September month.

Nostradamus fashioned anagrams out of numbers too. If the month of “September” is a lead, then “1999” could be a reverse code for the actual year, month and DAY:

1999 = 9111

Thus the prophecy means to say:

In the year 9.11.1 September month,
The great King of Terror comes from the Sky.

Nostradamus gave the Third Antichrist the following code name. He’s Mabus. A number of notorious contemporary figures, still living or recently dead from the Middle East can see their names spelled in the Mabus code. But there also are other leaders from the West, deeply entangled in Middle Eastern turmoil, a current US president and a charismatic candidate who could be his successor whose names also easily decode out of Mabus, making the search for the right candidate the most provocative and topical challenge presented by Nostradamus for our present times.

Though his true name is occulted, the Third Antichrist’s destiny is made clear. Unlike the first two, he is the first to die in a war he initiates at the sign of a comet, or a rocket falling out of the skies:

World War III begins when Mabus dies a sudden death.
911 world trade center

911: World Trade Center.

His act of terror unites a hundred nations in a war against what Nostradamus calls three Eastern kings secretly allied in opposition to the West. They would use piracy (hijacking?), ambush and subterfuge to wage war.

Know the war has begun when hollow mountains of a great New City (yet to be built in Nostradamus’ day) at latitude 45 in an unborn country he called Americh or Amorica, will be attacked by a fire in the sky. The hollow mountains crafted by man will be seized and plunged into the boiling cauldron of their own debris clouds.

After this happens, we will be living in the days
of the last Antichrist.


9 posted on 09/30/2009 4:01:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I believe my grandparents thought Hitler was the AC. Just be prepared.


10 posted on 09/30/2009 4:01:48 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I wouldn’t worry about Amastupi’uck, as much as Odumbo.


11 posted on 09/30/2009 4:01:53 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Or is could have been Nostradamus wrote down totally random thoughts that will throughout 500 years of history sometimes weakly relate to something going on if we twist some of his writings around...
12 posted on 09/30/2009 4:01:56 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Take a couple of aspirine and go lie down. Nostradamus was wrong as often as he was right. Prophecy is a blind man in a dark maze looking for a black book.


13 posted on 09/30/2009 4:03:02 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Nostradamus stuff is “popular” with folks, so it’s a revenue-generator.

Much like some “Bible-apologetic” shows are in fact, just plain silly. And in fact detrimental. One claimed “cool spots” in the fiery furnace in Daniel. Nonsense; the fire devoured the men who threw Shadrach, Meschech and Abednego in. It was a supernatural miracle from God; nothing less.

Read Ezekiel 38. Verse 5 mentions Iran (Persia) and Libya (Phut, Put in some translations).

I do have deep concerns for our country though. Iran cannot nuke us. Mother Russia, OTOH, still has quite a few nuke weapons and many that are long range (ICBM’s).


14 posted on 09/30/2009 4:03:49 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

It’s the old game where Nostradamus made a bunch of vague predictions where we in the future fill in the details. We make it up as we go along and think that recent history is a fulfillment of his vague predictions.

He also showed history ending in 2012. I predict we won’t see many shows that are in awe of his predictive powers after 2012.


15 posted on 09/30/2009 4:05:51 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Brett66
He also showed history ending in 2012. I predict we won’t see many shows that are in awe of his predictive powers after 2012.

If the world will come to an end in 2012, as Nostra stated, why then is President Obama vying for Chicago to be an Olympics venue for 2016?? ;-)

16 posted on 09/30/2009 4:10:22 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Dallas59

a wife of a poster here thinks that since only god knows when the antichrist will appear...satan keeps popping up folks who would fit the bill..such as Hitler...and then on to the next one


17 posted on 09/30/2009 4:10:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

‘The History Channel’ is owned in part by NBC, GE and Microsoft. I can’t watch it without throwing a shoe at the TV, LOL!

I’m no History Major, but some of the ‘history’ they sell is just flat-out lies.

They love this ‘who-do-voo-doo’ stuff, and if they had their way, they’d prove that we didn’t win WWII.

Take that for what it’s worth...I’m going to make my own destiny. You should too. Prepare for the worst and pray for the best. :)


18 posted on 09/30/2009 4:10:46 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
I have the same feeling toward Nostradamus as I do the people who claim to have ESP, clairvoyance, etc.
The day they predict the winning Lotto numbers is the day I'll start believing.

19 posted on 09/30/2009 4:11:57 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Step away from the POPCORN.


20 posted on 09/30/2009 4:12:10 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

One of the cable channels had a two-hour show about what the govt’s plans are for the aftermath of Washington DC getting nuked.

What the Hell is up with that?


21 posted on 09/30/2009 4:13:48 PM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Stupid.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Reputable

I am not sure.


22 posted on 09/30/2009 4:16:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Beware of anything you see on the Histeria Channel where the phrase “some say” precedes every claim they make...


23 posted on 09/30/2009 4:16:31 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Mabus = Massachusetts Busing System


24 posted on 09/30/2009 4:16:42 PM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Nostradomos (or whatever his name was) wrote hundreds of these quatrains, and very, very few could possibly have any shred of credence today. What you have is a bunch of nuts who find some kind of itty-bitty thread to tie these together.

If he was that full of foresight to pick “Hister,” then he should have gotten “Hitler.”

The guy was a hokey-pokey numbnuts who happens to have lots of people today all goofy about a half dozen or so “kinda-sorta-accurate-maybe” quatrains.


25 posted on 09/30/2009 4:17:01 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Brett66
NOstradamus was a joke, interpreting his "visions" are a racket for making money.

The Mayan calender ends in 2012...now they were the real prophets, unlike that charlatan.

I suggest everyone dump all of their worldly goods...sell them to someone - Hey, I'll give you 10 cents on the dollar for them - and go into the mountains and meditate on the end of the Mayan calender. I'll do all of that pesky living the good life stuff for everyone. :)

The end is near!!! /sarc
26 posted on 09/30/2009 4:17:09 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Brett66

I think the Mayan calendar also ends at 2012...hummmmmm


27 posted on 09/30/2009 4:17:09 PM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Mabus


28 posted on 09/30/2009 4:17:13 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Doogle

I call him dumbo but I love the O!!


29 posted on 09/30/2009 4:17:37 PM PDT by GregB (Is there aThird Party brewing?)
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To: oh8eleven

Speaking of lotto numbers, did you know on the day that Obama was officially the President Elect(11/05/2008), the pick three numbers in his state were 666. Something else to think about.


30 posted on 09/30/2009 4:17:53 PM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Later, the program shows that Nostra "saw" the word "HISTER", and a vision of a man from Europe wreaking chaos in the 20th Century. Experts believe "HISTER" was Hitler.

I thought it was "Hilter."

31 posted on 09/30/2009 4:18:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
why on earth would a ‘reputable’ cable network like The History Channel devote an hour to this man??

To get folks like you to watch it.........its all about viewership.

Personally, I like Fringe.....

32 posted on 09/30/2009 4:18:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: RummyChick
a wife of a poster here thinks that since only god knows when the antichrist will appear...satan keeps popping up folks who would fit the bill..such as Hitler...and then on to the next one

I dunno. I think humans can excel at evil without Satan even getting involved.

33 posted on 09/30/2009 4:18:49 PM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Nostradomos (or whatever his name was) wrote hundreds of these quatrains, and very, very few could possibly have any shred of credence today. What you have is a bunch of nuts who find some kind of itty-bitty thread to tie these together.

If he was that full of foresight to pick “Hister,” then he should have gotten “Hitler.”

The guy was a hokey-pokey numbnuts who happens to have lots of people today all goofy about a half dozen or so “kinda-sorta-accurate-maybe” quatrains.


34 posted on 09/30/2009 4:19:07 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

LOL...put down the glass of wine before freeping....


35 posted on 09/30/2009 4:20:14 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

A good question. My guess is that they have to dumb down to get viewers. This is an alarming trend. The National Geographic Channel has similar fare; e.g., shows devoted to the goings on at various tattoo parlors around the country. The decline of our culture continues apace.


36 posted on 09/30/2009 4:22:19 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Well two years ago every afternoon around 5:00 I would walk my dog, “TuTu”! It was fall and the sidewalks were covered with freshly falling acorns which crunched underneath my feet. They were brown and there were so many of them that I was inspired to do something with them. I envisioned possibly doing a piece of art with them, one layer thick across a canvas or something. I don't know it was like I was obsessed with the acorns. Almost like the acorns were an omen to me. It wasn't until now that I realized what I was seeing. The FUTURE! Of course without the pimp and prostitute attached.
37 posted on 09/30/2009 4:23:26 PM PDT by classified
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Next, Nostra "saw" the name MABUS.

maybe it was actually Amabos which spells sobama backwards

38 posted on 09/30/2009 4:25:26 PM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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To: classified

Massachusetts
BUTTMAN
United States Senator


39 posted on 09/30/2009 4:26:03 PM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: Velveeta
Former Mississippi Gov. Ray Mabus has been sworn-in as secretary of the U.S. Navy.

LOL - great find.

40 posted on 09/30/2009 4:27:47 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; SilvieWaldorfMD
The History Channel has changed a lot over the last couple of years. Many nights they don't do any history at all. They've gone in big for reality shows like Ice Road Truckers and Gangland. I've noticed more and more purported history shows that repeat conspiracy theories, like the Nostra show. Take that stuff with a salt lick, definitely.

The now rare occasions they do military history they seem pretty accurate still. And when they do a special on some time period or event they still do a decent job.

It's very disappointing. One of my kids is as much of a history buff as me and we used to make Friday night our History night, but we gave up on it when History quit doing history.

41 posted on 09/30/2009 4:28:23 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Barack Obama is an old Kenyan word for Jimmy Carter)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I have seen several of those shows about Nostradamus. I always enjoy reading or seeing these oddities but as near as I can tell, Nostradamus was unusually bad at predicting anything.

If you write all kinds of vague predictions, sort of like what the oracle of Delphi used to do, one can nearly always make some kind of connection.

The truth is Nostradamus has nothing to say that is useful.


42 posted on 09/30/2009 4:28:49 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
True, but why on earth would a ‘reputable’ cable network like The History Channel devote an hour to this man??

The History Channel has been adjusting facts for well over a year, along with "NatGeo" to fit the NWO consensus. I used to watch them extensively, now rarely.

43 posted on 09/30/2009 4:29:01 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Facts are like fried eggs - just give 'em to me hot off the griddle, I'll add my own seasoning.)
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To: oh8eleven

“The day they predict the winning Lotto numbers is the day I’ll start believing.”

Your assumption is that psychics have control over what they see. I know of enough strange events that I’m willing to say there’s something there.

And one of them did concern the lottery. A friend’s mother was a religious player of the lottery. One day she was working in the garden & a series of numbers popped into her mind. She wrote them down on a scrap of paper, but didn’t go buy a ticket (I’ve forgotten the reason why). Those numbers actually did come up in the next lottery, & my friend said his mother & brother & sister would have been set for life if she had actually followed through. Too bad!


44 posted on 09/30/2009 4:29:19 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: classified

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 09/30/2009 4:29:54 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
The History Channel has long since given over to a melange of fairly accurate history and outright fictional nonsense. This crap is fiction. It draws viewers. What can I say?
46 posted on 09/30/2009 4:32:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (truth--the liberal's kryptonite.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Bush's Fault.

47 posted on 09/30/2009 4:34:09 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PLMerite
One of the cable channels had a two-hour show about what the govt’s plans are for the aftermath of Washington DC getting nuked. What the Hell is up with that?

A new lease on life for an old old genre: apocalypto-porn.

48 posted on 09/30/2009 4:34:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (truth--the liberal's kryptonite.)
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To: Twotone
Sigh, like I needed more proof - another story from Ripley's Believe It or Not.
How long have you been buddies with Nostradamus?
49 posted on 09/30/2009 4:35:48 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: hinckley buzzard
A new lease on life for an old old genre: apocalypto-porn.

Obama's fault.

50 posted on 09/30/2009 4:37:06 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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