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Who Killed California?
Natonal Affairs ^ | Troy Senik

Posted on 10/02/2009 12:46:00 AM PDT by Bird Jenkins

Since its entry into the Union, in the aftermath of war and the midst of gold fever, the state has seemed an improbable colossus. But again and again, California has made its way through hours of challenge – not only surviving intact, but emerging as a model for the rest of the nation.

In the 19th century, despite immense geographic, ethnic, political, and social differences, Californians managed to form a cohesive identity, resisting numerous efforts to divide the state. They overcame the "curse of natural resources" that so long afflicted other commodity-rich states (and still afflicts some, like Alaska), laying the groundwork for a thriving and diverse economy that now dwarfs those of many developed countries. In the 20th century, through one of the greatest feats of engineering in human history, they turned the semi-arid desolation of southern California into a booming megalopolis and home to the second-largest metropolitan area in America. California ranked 20th among the states in population in 1900, but by 1963 it was first, where it has remained.

And through a series of social, political, and economic experiments, California has acted as America's foremost laboratory of innovation, trying out ideas the country as a whole would go on to adopt. In the 1960s under Governor Pat Brown, the state offered a model of modernization, building the most advanced education and transportation infrastructures in the nation. Under Brown's successor, Ronald Reagan, it offered a model of conservative governance that would go on to transform American politics. Hollywood has made California a crucial part of America's cultural identity, and Silicon Valley has put it at the heart of our vision of the future. For many decades now, Americans have seen California as a harbinger of promising things to come.

Today, however, California has become a warning sign.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalaffairs.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: bluestates; california; liberalism; schwarzenegger; taxandspend; unions

1 posted on 10/02/2009 12:46:00 AM PDT by Bird Jenkins
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To: Bird Jenkins

social engineering, government regulation, unions, open borders.
Those would be a couple of the primary reasons.


2 posted on 10/02/2009 12:54:45 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Bird Jenkins

Soc-ial-ism.


3 posted on 10/02/2009 1:00:13 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Revolution's are for Marxists. We need a Constitutional Restoration)
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To: Bird Jenkins

I’m an ex-Californian, and I’ve watched the state decline culturally and financially over the last 25 years. I go back there to visit friends and family, but I’m never going back to live there. The state’s governance and fiscal policy was wrecked by liberal politicians and judges, and by illegal immigration promoted by the federal government. Taxes are too high, housing still costs too much, and left-wing politicians and bureaucrats are arrogant and don’t respect the people. Unless you really love the beach or surfing, or you have a great job out there, I can’t see any reason to live in California.


4 posted on 10/02/2009 1:01:35 AM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Unless you’ve been to the Bay Area, you simply cannot comprehend the level of stupidity and malice that infects virtually everyone there. It’s like some sort of alien virus has attacked everyone’s brain - they smile the same way, they wear the same clothes, they use the same terms in their speech, they even walk and drive alike. And what they all have in common is a casual viciousness that literally staggers the mind.

Nancy Pelosi is not unique - imagine a million Pelosis everywhere - in the supermarket, next door, walking the dog, at work, in the library. The Bay Area has become a very scary place. Go there, see for yourself - it’s the Twilight Zone full of malicious, staggeringly stupid zombies who file their nails and discuss hair styles after the cannibal feast.

They feel nothing, vote liberal, and hate, revile, loathe and detest any opposition with every scathing, screaming mindlessly aggressive cell in their peaceful, green, politically correct plastic-surgeried bodies.


5 posted on 10/02/2009 1:13:24 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker
Unless you’ve been to the Bay Area, you simply cannot comprehend the level of stupidity and malice that infects virtually everyone there. It’s like some sort of alien virus has attacked everyone’s brain - they smile the same way, they wear the same clothes, they use the same terms in their speech, they even walk and drive alike. And what they all have in common is a casual viciousness that literally staggers the mind.

Oh you nailed it! I've been trying for years to find the right words to explain it to people. And here they are.

6 posted on 10/02/2009 1:19:32 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: RAO1125
“Soc-ial-ism.”

Not a very challenging question.
Too easy.

7 posted on 10/02/2009 1:21:46 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Bird Jenkins
The two-thirds requirement for tax increases, for instance, is a result of 1978's Proposition 13 ballot initiative, which also capped the state's property taxes at 1% of assessed value and ensured that the assessed value can't increase by more than 2% per year. In the three decades since Prop. 13 passed, it has saved California taxpayers more than half a trillion dollars. But its limitations on property-tax revenues have also led the state to rely far more on income and sales taxes.

That's not quite the whole story. Assessed property values can and do get reassessed way upwards when properties are sold. Most homes in California have been sold at least once since Prop. 13 was passed and so most homes have been reassessed to much higher values since 1978. There's no shortage of property tax revenues in California. I have no doubt that average property taxes on homes are among the highest in the nation in terms of total dollars per year. There are a few old-timers who pay very low property taxes, but there aren't many of them left now and their numbers decline every year.

California's fiscal problems are almost entirely the result of uncontrolled, lavish state spending, partly caused by all those expensive ballot initiatives. When I was out there in 2004, a guy was out in front of a store collecting signatures for a ballot initiative to fund stem cell research from the California general fund. It was some kind of stupid liberal reaction to Bush's partial ban on stem cell research. Obviously, California can't afford to pay for stem cell research. If I recall correctly though, that initiative passed in the election.

8 posted on 10/02/2009 1:26:18 AM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: Talisker

I live there, not by choice, but because I am caring for my elderly parents. And I absolutely agree with you about the “vibe”. It is a mindset of leftover brain-dead hippy nonsense yet with this barely submerged viciousness towards anything that their shrunken brains cannot immediately fit into “cool” or [gag] “right on”. It is a time warp and an ugly yet unending episode of the Twilight Zone all in one. It’s everything I can do not to freak myself out just hating this area.


9 posted on 10/02/2009 1:27:23 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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To: Talisker
Post 5: Awesome comments... and so true. Liberalism is a very, very bad new religion for angry, dishonest, empty, soulless and stupid people.


10 posted on 10/02/2009 1:35:55 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Bird Jenkins

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11 posted on 10/02/2009 1:38:04 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Bird Jenkins

The unions killed this state.


12 posted on 10/02/2009 1:41:03 AM PDT by sonofstrangelove ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Talisker

>> Unless you’ve been to the Bay Area, you simply cannot comprehend the level of stupidity and malice that infects virtually everyone there.

Been there many, many times; spent nearly half my life in the Bay area between ‘95 and ‘05.

I don’t agree with the “stupidity and malice” label, but I do agree that there is an incomprehensible level of ... something. And, yes, sometimes it comes off as stupid and hateful.

I’m going to say it’s a sense of elitist liberal entitlement, for lack of a better concise description. They have a warped “chic leftist” world view that they feel is their God-given birthright. Not only to “enjoy” themselves (even when it drives them to ruin!) but to foist off on the rest of the country as well.

There are a lot of very smart, very hard-working people there — and yet they are (mostly) liberal koolaid drinkers to a degree that would astonish an outside observer (given that they are smart and hard working). Their world view is not in their long-term best interest, but they don’t get it.

Many (not all) have that ruthless materialistic cannibal streak you refer to as well.

It’s a beautiful, exciting, innovative, interesting place, but it’s headed for a fall of epic proportions if they don’t change their tune.

A final point — just my 2c worth. Do you know what the glue is that holds the entire wacky Bay Area “society” together? Sort of the “dough” matrix that holds the fruits and nuts together to keep the cookie from crumbling? It’s the significant Asian population.


13 posted on 10/02/2009 1:45:10 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Let’s see, who moves to my State and passes crazy regulations against property rights. Uhhhhhh, Californians? Oh...and New Yorkers.


14 posted on 10/02/2009 1:56:33 AM PDT by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: Bird Jenkins

That’s not quite the whole story. Assessed property values can and do get reassessed way upwards when properties are sold.

Very true. Since the housing bubble burst, many homeowners are paying taxes on property that is assesed far higher than it’s actually worth.


15 posted on 10/02/2009 2:15:41 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Bird Jenkins

It’s citizens who thought there was such a thing as a free lunch.


16 posted on 10/02/2009 3:00:15 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Talisker

“imagine a million Pelosis everywhere - in the supermarket, next door, walking the dog, at work, in the library”

Sounds like one heck of a nightmare. It’s enough to make your head explode.


17 posted on 10/02/2009 3:54:01 AM PDT by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: Bird Jenkins
They overcame the "curse of natural resources"

They answered their own question. That is the attitude that has killed California.

18 posted on 10/02/2009 3:54:17 AM PDT by doodad
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To: uncitizen; Talisker

I am very impressed with Talsker’s words. And, a little frightened. What has happened to our great nation?


19 posted on 10/02/2009 4:05:56 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

can’t speak about the rest of the country, but in CA, political correctness run rampant (to boil it down) for so many years has done our state in.


20 posted on 10/02/2009 4:10:01 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Talisker; SmithL; NormsRevenge; nickcarraway
Unless you’ve been to the Bay Area, you simply cannot comprehend the level of stupidity and malice that infects virtually everyone there. It’s like some sort of alien virus has attacked everyone’s brain - they smile the same way, they wear the same clothes, they use the same terms in their speech, they even walk and drive alike.

Dude, that's hella harsh.

21 posted on 10/02/2009 4:19:18 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: FormerACLUmember

They even make that same face when you say something remotely Conservative or pro-Republican.


22 posted on 10/02/2009 5:26:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: martin_fierro; Talisker

Hell, they even screw alike... well, at least in San Francisco (and even they do THAT the wrong way).


23 posted on 10/02/2009 5:27:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Public employee unions, illegal aliens, smug hedonists, NIMBYism, a love of generous public services without having to pay for them, and Mobocratic “rule by referendum” have turned California into a basket case.


24 posted on 10/02/2009 5:33:18 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Talisker

Sounds like Manhattan and the gentrified parts of Brooklyn.


25 posted on 10/02/2009 5:34:08 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Government activity = costs that replaces jobs.


26 posted on 10/02/2009 5:35:24 AM PDT by alrea (Protect your gang from arrest and prosecution by working for the Democrat party.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Isn't there a county in the south bay that has an Asian plurality now? I remember reading an article about how wealthy Asians (particularly Chinese) are driving out the middle class white folks, whose kids are in turn feeling the heat in the schools.
27 posted on 10/02/2009 5:36:53 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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Self ping


28 posted on 10/02/2009 5:45:39 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Amendment 0: Congress shall make no law.)
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To: Clemenza

I didn’t see the word “illegal alien” anywhere in this article.


29 posted on 10/02/2009 5:58:03 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (1/20/13 - Obama's Last Day!)
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To: Talisker
My husband has 2 cousins in SF bay area, one is a nice guy the other is a 60’s era hippie now almost 60, who is like those you describe. I hear from the good brother's wife that nutjob has now gone off the rails and is truly insane. He hates corporations, hates Republicans, hates cars (but he drives one) and most of all he hates George Bush. He also doesn't like nObama because he is not liberal enough and hates Pelosi because she didn't stand with her principles. WHAT? She has no principles!
30 posted on 10/02/2009 5:58:59 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Clemenza

The referendum is the only good thing CA has got. It allows the people to reign in the excesses of the liberal moonbats.


31 posted on 10/02/2009 6:19:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Talisker
Well said and agree about the "vibe" there - because of business, and past military we are in the Bay area a lot.

Like others here are saying, it is somewhat difficult to succinctly describe, but it presents a profound change in human dignity and attitude from what I grew up with in the East (50's and 60's). One of the more defining descriptions is arrogance.

A deep problem is that youth adopt the culture of the environment they grow up in. And it's going to take paradigm shifts to counter California's ugliness.

32 posted on 10/02/2009 6:32:46 AM PDT by jnsun
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Unfortunately, it also allows them to vote in environmental and fiscal idiocy, a key reason for the states bankruptcy.

In Cali, the masses are asses, but the pols are often worse, it is true.

33 posted on 10/02/2009 6:36:24 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza

It’s not perfect, but I’d rather they have it than not (although once you get a supermajority of idiots, at that point, it will be no longer a good thing).


34 posted on 10/02/2009 6:49:34 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Unelected officials granted powers to enact rules and regulations that destroy businesses.


35 posted on 10/02/2009 9:03:37 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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Misinformed voters that lack the clarity of mind to sort chaff from wheat when it comes to issues.


36 posted on 10/02/2009 9:04:39 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: martin_fierro
Dude, that's hella harsh.

LOL - exactly.

37 posted on 10/02/2009 5:37:16 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Democrates!


38 posted on 10/02/2009 5:44:36 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: Talisker
"... And what they all have in common is a casual viciousness that literally staggers the mind. Nancy Pelosi is not unique - imagine a million Pelosis everywhere - in the supermarket, next door, walking the dog, at work, in the library. The Bay Area has become a very scary place. Go there, see for yourself - it’s the Twilight Zone full of malicious, staggeringly stupid zombies who file their nails and discuss hair styles after the cannibal feast. They feel nothing, vote liberal, and hate, revile, loathe and detest any opposition with every scathing, screaming mindlessly aggressive cell in their peaceful, green, politically correct plastic-surgeried bodies."

If you are not a professional writer, Talisker, you really should be. That was a brilliant description of something that I have been trying to put into words for a very long time!

39 posted on 10/04/2009 11:24:01 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Democrats and illegals.


40 posted on 10/04/2009 11:30:06 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Bird Jenkins
Wetbacks and their treasonous enablers in the government and courts.

No organism (society or individual) can support that percentage of malicious parasites and their resulting drain on every fiber of existence.


41 posted on 10/04/2009 11:41:17 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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