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Numerous evidence of Pre-Historic Nuclear War exists
agoracosmopolitan.com ^ | Tuesday 6. Oct 2009 | Brad Steiger

Posted on 10/06/2009 7:13:37 AM PDT by Nikas777

Numerous evidence of Pre-Historic Nuclear War exists: Columns of Smoke Rose as if from a Mighty Furnace

by Brad Steiger

Ancient Indian Epics, especially the Mahabharata, document apparent pre-historic nuclear devastation and destruction, that is being verified by diverse scholars.

“Then the Lord rained down fire and tar from heaven upon Sodom and Gomorrah, and utterly destroyed them….” Genesis 19:24.

My previous article in The Canadian , in which I reflected upon my book Worlds Before Our Own, provoked dozens of inquiries from readers. LINK Some stated that one of the cable channels -- some thought it was the History Channel; others, Discovery; still others, National Geographic -- had presented “proof” that the “fused green glass” to be found in various areas had been created by meteoric air blasts rather than prehistoric nuclear wars.

I remain open to many theories of Earth‘s prehistory. One of those individuals prompted to write to me, who had the advantage of having actually read Worlds Before Our Own, stated that I present “in a clear and lucid style, information concerning anomalous archeological finds without the hyperbole usually associated with this type of material.”

While patches of “fused green glass” may in certain instances have been caused by air blasts from meteors, I wonder if such a natural phenomenon could have created all twenty-eight fields of blackened and shattered stones that cover as many as 7000 miles each in western Arabia. The stones are densely grouped, as if they might be the remains of cities, sharp-edged, and burned black. Experts have decreed that they are not volcanic in origin, but appear to date from the period when Arabia was thought to be a lush and fruitful land that suddenly became scorched into an instant desert.

What we know today as the Sahara Desert was once a tropical region of heavy vegetation, abundant rainfall, and several large rivers. Scientists have discovered areas of the desert in which soils which once knew the cultivated influence of plow and farmer are now covered by a thin layer of sand. Researchers have also found an enormous reservoir of water below the parched desert area. The source of such a large deposit of water could only have been the heavy rains from the period of time before a fiery devastation consumed the lush vegetation of the area.

On December 25, 2007, it was confirmed by a French scientist that excavations at the area of Khamis Bani Sa’ad in Tehema district of Hodeidah province have yielded over a thousand rare archaeological pieces dating back to 300,000 B.C.E. Before a dramatic climate change, the inhabitants at that time had been fishermen and had domesticated a number of animals no longer to be found in the region, including a species of horse currently found only in Middle Asia.

The Red Chinese have conducted atomic tests near Lob Nor Lake in the Gobi Desert, which have left large patches of the area covered with vitreous sand. But the Gobi has a number of other areas of glassy sand which have been known for thousands of years.

Albion W. Hart, one of the first engineers to graduate from Massachusetts Institute of Technology, was assigned a project in the interior of Africa. While he and his men were traveling to an almost inaccessible region, they had first to cross a great expanse of desert. At the time, he was puzzled and quite unable to explain a large area of greenish glass which covered the sands as far as he could see.

"Later on during his life," wrote Margarethe Casson in Rocks and Minerals (No. 396, 1972), "he passed by the White Sands area after the first atomic explosion there, and he recognized the same type of silica fusion which he had seen fifty years earlier in the African desert."

In 1947, in the Euphrates valley of southern Iraq, where certain traditions place the Garden of Eden and where the ancient inhabitants of Sumer encountered the man-god Ea, exploratory digging unearthed a layer of fused, green glass. Archaeologists could not restrain themselves from noting the resemblance that the several-thousand-year-old fused glass bore to the desert floor at White Sands, New Mexico, after the first nuclear blasts in modem times had melted sand and rock.

In the United States, the Mohave Desert has large circular or polygonal areas that are coated with a hard substance very much like opaque glass.

While exploring Death Valley in 1850, William Walker claimed to have come upon the ruins of an ancient city. An end of the large building within the rubble had had its stones melted and vitrified.

Walker went on to state that the entire region between the Gila and St. John rivers was spotted with ruins. In each of the ancient settlements he had found evidence that they had been burned out by fire intense enough to have liquefied rock. Paving blocks and stone houses had been split with huge cracks, as if seared by some gigantic cleaver of fire.

Perhaps even more than the large areas of fused green glass, I am intrigued by the evidence of vitrified cities and forts, such as those discovered by Walker.

There are ancient hill forts and towers in Scotland, Ireland, and England in which the stoneworks have become calcined because of the great heat that had been applied. There is no way that lightning could have caused such effects.

Other hill forts from the Lofoten Islands off northern Norway to the Canary Islands off northwest Africa have become “fused forts.” Erich A. von Fange comments that the “piled boulders of their circular walls have been turned to glass… by some intense heat.”

Catal Huyukin in north-central Turkey, thought to be one of the oldest cities in the world, appears, according to archaeological evidence, to have been fully civilized and then, suddenly, to have died out. Archaeologists were astonished to find thick layers of burned brick at one of the levels, called VIa. The blocks had been fused together by such intense heat that the effects had penetrated to a depth more than a meter below the level of the floors, where it carbonized the earth, the skeletal remains of the dead, and the burial gifts that had been interred with them. All bacterial decay had been halted by the tremendous heat.

When a large ziggurat in Babylonia was excavated, it presented the appearance of having been struck by a terrible fire that had split it down to its foundation. In other parts of the ruins, large sections of brickwork had been scorched into a vitrified state. Several masses of brickwork had been rendered into a completely molten state. Even large boulders found near the ruins had been vitrified.

The royal buildings at the north Syrian site known as Alalakh or Atchana had been so completely burned that the very core of the thick walls were filled with bright red, crumbling mud-bricks. The mud and lime wall plaster had been vitrified, and basalt wall slabs had, in some areas, actually melted.

Between India's Ganges River and the Rajmahal Hills are scorched ruins which contain large masses of stone that have been fused and hollowed. Certain travelers who have ventured to the heart of the Indian forests have reported ruins of cities in which the walls have become huge slabs of crystal, due to some intense heat.

The ruins of the Seven Cities, located near the equator in the Province of Piaui, Brazil, appear to be the scene of a monstrous chaos. Since no geological explanation has yet been construed to fit the evidence before the archaeologists, certain of those who have investigated the site have said that the manner in which the stones have been dried out, destroyed, and melted provokes images of Sodom and Gomorrah.

French researchers discovered the evidence of prehistoric spontaneous nuclear reaction at the Oklo mine, Pierrelatte, in Gabon, Africa. Scientists found that the ore of this mine contained abnormally low proportions of U235 such as found only in depleted uranium fuel taken from atomic reactors. According to those who examined the mine, the ore also contained four rare elements in forms similar to those found in depleted uranium.

Although the modern world did not experience atomic power until the 1940s, there is an astonishing amount of evidence that nuclear effects may have occurred in prehistoric times leaving behind sand melted into glass in certain desert areas, hill forts with vitrified portions of stone walls, of the remains of ancient cities that had been destroyed by what appeared to have been extreme heat-far beyond that which could have been scorched by the torches of primitive armies. In each instance, the trained and experienced archaeologists who encountered such anomalous finds have stressed the point that none of these catastrophes had been caused by volcanoes, by lightning, by crashing comets, or by conflagrations set by humankind.

Sinai peninsular area of apparent nuclear war activity.

Zecharia Sitchin (1985) devotes an entire chapter to a discussion of nuclear warfare in ancient times in Mesopotamia and the Sinai peninsula. In this book he also suggests the destruction of the Sinai “space facilities” by nuclear weapons. He offers as evidence:

“…the immense cavity in the center of the Sinai and the resulting fracture lines (see figure), the vast surrounding flat area covered with blackened stones, traces of radiation south of the Dead Sea, the new extent and shape of the Dead Sea – is still there, four thousand years later”.


TOPICS: History; Religion; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; prehistoric; science; zechariasitchin
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To: dirtboy

True. Very true.


51 posted on 10/06/2009 12:02:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Quix; Godzilla

While I generally agree with your statements - I enjoy listening to those who have alternate explanations so I do not keep away.


52 posted on 10/06/2009 12:05:31 PM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Nikas777

I’m fascinated by the underwater ruins near Okinawa ... Nomagumi? Graham Hancock’s beautiful photographer wife took extensive photos of that site a few years ago.


53 posted on 10/06/2009 12:08:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: BenLurkin

And Michigan is living proof ...


54 posted on 10/06/2009 12:09:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Me too - check out the link I provided.

The UNDERWORLD thesis of Hancock’s is that during near the end of the Ice Age there arose an advanced stone age coastal civilization - not advanced like they had cars or lasers but advances like the Egyptians and when the great melt happened this far flung coastal civilization/empire was drowned giving rise to the Atlantis myth and other flood myths with the survivors of the coastal flood moving inland to be among the less advanced humans of the inner continents who viewed the more advances coastal dwellers as gods or near gods. What survived are racial memories and some passed down knowledge turned to myth and legends but for the most part real evidence for this civilization is buried under the seas.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2355928/posts


55 posted on 10/06/2009 12:11:25 PM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Godzilla

Plenty true.

Though I do try to keep some slight awareness of the waterfront the enemy is operating in.

However, the evidence from the ancient culture in India is a lot more conclusive with all manner of proper measures, readings etc. as well as literary documentation, designs of air craft etc.


56 posted on 10/06/2009 12:11:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Nikas777

Graham Hancock and his wife are of those interesting people with whom I would enjoy a long dinner and after dinner conversation. His adventures around the world are interesting to follow. There are clues all over the world, including the Giza Plateau, which point to civilization operating for long periods with much lower sea levels ... like the staircases which descend deeplyly into the earth at Obiados, with most of the staircases now under ground water. The extensive basalt fortress in the Polynesian Islands (?) is another strange anomoly.


57 posted on 10/06/2009 12:18:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: dirtboy

Never know.


58 posted on 10/06/2009 12:19:05 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Nikas777
Interestingly, but not surprisingly, the author does not mention that he or anybody else has actually collected or analyzed any of the glass from these locations.... only old reports and anecdotes of "large glassy areas."

How very convenient.

59 posted on 10/06/2009 12:27:36 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: cripplecreek

60 posted on 10/06/2009 12:33:49 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: MHGinTN

Make that ‘Yonaguni’ ... getting old is such a hassle.


61 posted on 10/06/2009 12:34:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I was remembering it as Yamaguchi....


62 posted on 10/06/2009 12:36:26 PM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Theo

I was rather amused by the “Book of Geniuses.” Comes right before Exitus, doesn’t it?


63 posted on 10/06/2009 12:36:57 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Nikas777

Oh bother


64 posted on 10/06/2009 12:48:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Quix
However, the evidence from the ancient culture in India is a lot more conclusive with all manner of proper measures, readings etc. as well as literary documentation, designs of air craft etc.

And these sources are highly disputed as well. Many of the commentaries on the subject I googled are linked to paranormal as well.

65 posted on 10/06/2009 12:53:03 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Nikas777; Quix; dirtboy; SunkenCiv

Related article.

http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id44.html

“extraterrestrials or a lost civilization like Atlantis detonated nuclear weapons?”


66 posted on 10/06/2009 1:04:03 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Hoffer Rand

Well, if you believe that the Creator is the Author of Scripture, and you refer to the Trinity using a plural pronoun, then I suppose you could call it the “Book of Geniuses.” :-)


67 posted on 10/06/2009 1:14:13 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: wolfcreek

You should post that on its own thread. Awesome debunking article.


68 posted on 10/06/2009 1:19:42 PM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: r9etb

I enjoy posting articles that touch on such alternate themes just for them to be debunked in a reasoned manner as you and others did on the thread.


69 posted on 10/06/2009 1:24:52 PM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Nikas777

Be my guest.


70 posted on 10/06/2009 1:29:26 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

I am on my handheld and I can’t. Traveling. Reading the comments helps me pass the time between flights.


71 posted on 10/06/2009 1:43:19 PM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Nikas777

I agree with much of Hancock. In addition to flooding at the end of the Ice Age, there was a massive meteorite impact in the Indian ocean about 4,800 years ago. There were also meteorite impacts in North America at the end of the Pleistocene.


72 posted on 10/06/2009 1:59:29 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: SunkenCiv

for the list


73 posted on 10/06/2009 2:24:00 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Nikas777
It's worth repeating:

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing - they believe in anything." -G.K. Chesterton

74 posted on 10/06/2009 2:33:32 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: Godzilla

Welllllllll . . . how much should one subtract out . . .

THE RELIGION OF SCIENCE’S INERTIA and resistence to inconvenient truths?

My prof could translate the original docs herself IIRC.


75 posted on 10/06/2009 2:36:24 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: BCW
It is always nice to see someone who understands the Kabaa and the source reference for Allah.

I hadn't thought of the idea of Russia moving in to pick up the pieces. I hadn't quite followed the trail far enough.

76 posted on 10/06/2009 2:45:44 PM PDT by wbarmy (Hard core, extremist, and right-wing is a little too mild for my tastes.)
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To: Godzilla

IIRC, in the historical records are sufficiently clear descriptions of some of the craft to mostly build them.

The RELIGION OF SCIENCE’s biases precluded using such information for decades, if not centuries.

As I understand it, some of the folks familiar with the UFO technologies the oligarchy has funded and comandeered . . . indicate there’s little difference between those craft and the craft described in the historical records.

Given that I’m convinced that fallen angels are the sources of the modern craft . . . one can certainly make conjectures about many 10’s of millenia ago.

However, we are clearly talking about a technology, regardless of the source—in both time frames.


77 posted on 10/06/2009 2:47:32 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wolfcreek

Thanks.

It’s of mild fascination to me.

I think mostly satan uses it to muddy the waters about truths in our era.

Lots of things are curious, mysterious . . . unclear . . .

and of no eternal consequence at present.


78 posted on 10/06/2009 2:49:07 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
THE RELIGION OF SCIENCE’S INERTIA and resistence to inconvenient truths?

I will agree, there is strong conservative trend in many fields of science to 'inconvenient' truths. However, one must also subtract out overworked imaginations as well as superimposing a conceptual model onto the data to make it fit the model (round peg - square hole).

79 posted on 10/06/2009 2:51:06 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Quix
As I understand it, some of the folks familiar with the UFO technologies the oligarchy has funded and comandeered . . . indicate there’s little difference between those craft and the craft described in the historical records.

Well, I would question the credability of those sources, but then that is JMHO.

Given that I’m convinced that fallen angels are the sources of the modern craft . . . one can certainly make conjectures about many 10’s of millenia ago.

I will agree that some of modern UFO sighting may well be demonic in origion, the question has to be asked (as was by Capt Kirk) what would a being of anglic origion (or God) need a spaceship for? Just color me skeptical.

80 posted on 10/06/2009 2:55:11 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That author committed suicide and put the church in the position of continuing caretaker of human technology. It is a dismal way to view the church and not very realistic.


81 posted on 10/06/2009 4:00:28 PM PDT by x_plus_one (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: Nikas777
ancient Egypt art
82 posted on 10/06/2009 4:09:28 PM PDT by buffyt (I don't agree with Reid,Schumer,Pelosi,Conyers,Dodd,Rangel,Frank,Obama,does that make me RACIST?)
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83 posted on 10/06/2009 7:09:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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84 posted on 10/06/2009 7:11:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Well, I had five topics (two up, three down) and one disappeared!


85 posted on 10/06/2009 7:13:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Nikas777; Rca2000
I often wonder about things like that if a technical civilization arose on Earth once or twice before ours. If this is the case, I wonder how their atomic weapons were constructed compared to ours plus they are high maintenance items. Would their U235 nukes resemble the Hiroshima gun bomb or if they used Pu239 (Plutionium) implosion weapons, would they use the same "soccer ball" implosion mechanism we do? I know the laws of physics were the same then as now, but I often wonder if they used the same ideas we do.

I often thought it would have been cool where the Apollo Astronauts would land on the Moon only to find that we've been there thousands of years before where they would look at each other and go "huh?"
86 posted on 10/06/2009 7:21:14 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Woodrow Wilson should have been waterboarded.)
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To: concerned about politics; SunkenCiv
Yeah. I can believe the Earth was used before."

Same here. We have NO CLUE how old this planet really could be, or who could have been here before us. There could have been people far more advanced than us living here, but they are gone, evidence of their existence erased by time.

If we all vanished right here, right now, 100,000 years from now(a blip in time in the grand scheme of things) it would be debatable whether or not we even existed. I don't believe we know nearly as much as we think we do. As a matter of fact, we are probably so clueless, we don't even know about what we don't know....

87 posted on 10/06/2009 7:22:00 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GOPJ
Hmmmm, I wonder if the effects of a nuclear explosion can go back in time. Some of those sites sound like ones that will be nuked in the future... ( Works if earth is like the inside of a train...)

Reminds me of an episode form the late 1980's TV series, "The Highwayman" where a duo travels around in a high tech truck investigating weird stuff and fighting crime. I remember the sidekick's name was a guy from Australian named "Jetto" and Sam Jones played the lead. One episode dealt with the Trinty test site where the atomic bomb blew a doorway from this time back to 1945 just prior to the test and the team have to follow a middle aged guy wearing belts of explosives from bowing up the lead scientists of the Manhattan Project because he wanted to stop the arms race and the atomic bomb. They did stop him and set history right. BTW, one twist in the story is that he almost "blew himself" up because among the scientists was his mother, pregnant, carrying him inside her in 1945.
88 posted on 10/06/2009 7:33:09 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Woodrow Wilson should have been waterboarded.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

one of the great sci fi books of all time


89 posted on 10/06/2009 7:34:24 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: KoRn

I agree. The oldest known RC date for a cultivated grain sample is 14K years ago (uncalibrated); 14,000 goes into 2 million almost 143 times. :’)


90 posted on 10/06/2009 7:41:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: mkleesma

Exactly. im wondering if there is a non-tinfoil article on this stuff


91 posted on 10/06/2009 7:42:32 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Nikas777

*cough*gao’uld*cough*


92 posted on 10/06/2009 7:43:05 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: qam1
some future archaeologist will still find my Styrofoam clam shell that my Big Mac came in back in 1975.

ROFLMAO i have wondered about this sort of thing myself
93 posted on 10/06/2009 7:44:25 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: narses; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

Dig into the author, find a fruitcake. What is sad is the number here who buy this bilge water.


94 posted on 10/06/2009 7:44:51 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Why nuclear war? A solar mass ejection would do the same thing...

i dont see how anything sun-related could cause something like this without catastrophic damage to the atmosphere, not to mention a much larger scale of damage
95 posted on 10/06/2009 7:47:18 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: BenLurkin

Any dates for this action?


96 posted on 10/06/2009 7:48:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SunkenCiv

More than just this thread....well... interesting....thanks.!


97 posted on 10/06/2009 7:54:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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Aha, here it is:
98 posted on 10/06/2009 8:08:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You mean the antediluvian nuclear war? I’m not convinced there was one.

The Democrat destruction of American cities, though, has been going on since before WWII.


99 posted on 10/06/2009 8:24:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I had the same thought.

“Sic transit mundi”


100 posted on 10/06/2009 8:32:13 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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