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Man guilty of raping girl, 12 (blames victim for "coming on to him")
Fredericksburg (Va.) Free-Lance Star ^ | 10/8/2009 | BY KEITH EPPS

Posted on 10/08/2009 8:11:24 AM PDT by meandog

Man pleads guilty to raping preteen girl

BY KEITH EPPS

A Spotsylvania man yesterday admitted that he raped a preteen girl earlier this year.

Richard Eugene Smith Jr., 38, pleaded guilty to rape in Spotsylvania Circuit Court. He faces the possibility of life in prison when he is sentenced Dec. 2.

As part of a plea agreement, prosecutor Amy Harper dropped a second rape charge against Smith.

According to the evidence presented by Harper, Smith had sexual relations with the 12-year-old girl twice between June 1 and July 22.

The second incident ended when the girl's mother walked into the child's bedroom and saw Smith molesting her daughter.

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Smith left the home, but deputies found him a short time later. He told police that he made a "stupid mistake" and that the child started the incident by "coming on" to him....

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KEYWORDS: ageofconsentlaws; culturewar; hedonism; moralabsolutes; pornification; sexualizingchildren; sick; statutoryrape
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Wonder if he's related to Roman Polanski?
1 posted on 10/08/2009 8:11:24 AM PDT by meandog
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To: meandog

And the mother didn’t kill him?


2 posted on 10/08/2009 8:13:09 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: meandog

So has Whoopi weighed in to let us know whether or not it was “rape-rape”?


3 posted on 10/08/2009 8:13:21 AM PDT by green pastures
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To: meandog
The second incident ended when the girl's mother walked into the child's bedroom and saw Smith molesting her daughter.

It should have ended there. If I were on a jury, I could not vote to convict a mother for shooting a child rapist in the back of the head for raping/molesting her daughter.

Period.

While the article indicates that this sick beast faces the possibility of life in prison, does anyone really expect that to happen?

4 posted on 10/08/2009 8:14:55 AM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: meandog

I think it will be punishment enough to send him to France for 30 years to live in luxury. Plus, deny him the right to attend the Acadamy Awards ceremony, even if he wins! That will teach him a lesson!

/s


5 posted on 10/08/2009 8:15:03 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: meandog
Way past time to bring back:


6 posted on 10/08/2009 8:16:24 AM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: meandog

Okay, okay....even if in some bizarro world a 12 year old child “comes on to” a middle aged man, how does this son-of-a-b!tch get to a place in his head where it’s okay morally and legally to act on it?

Were I in his shoes (supposing things happened as he said) I would have immediately gone to the kids’ mother and told her that her daughter has a problem, seek help.

No, this “man” is a child molester, this 12 year old did NOT “come on to” him (except in his twisted mind) and he deserves everything coming his way in prison.


7 posted on 10/08/2009 8:16:42 AM PDT by Grunthor (Thank YOU George Bush, for giving us the GOP of today!)
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To: meandog
Has anyone asked Kevin Jennings (or Darth Vader Ginsburg) for comment?

Cheers!

8 posted on 10/08/2009 8:20:09 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: meandog
OH, those twelvers!

She used her feminine wiles on him! What’s a man to do? She sat in his lap for heaven’s sake!

/S

Apparently this was a live in boyfriend. Always a bad idea.

9 posted on 10/08/2009 8:20:22 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: meandog

That guy ran while she was getting her gun?

A 38-year old man who has no self control needs to be removed from this world as soon as possible. “If it feels good do it” is a phrase from Satan himself.


10 posted on 10/08/2009 8:20:30 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: meandog

Any photos of this “child”? Did the mother allow the girl to doll herself up like a ho-bag? I am still stunned by what I saw at my kids (former) middle school. 11-12-year old girls who are 5’ 7”, fully developed and wearing tons of makeup, tatoos, etc. Almost all of them were black. There was a study showing that puberty among black girls is 18-24 months earlier than whites. The study hinted that earlier exposure to sexual activity triggers early onset of puberty. I have no idea if that is true. Not sure what the race is in this case, or what the girl looked like. It stuns me how some parents let their daughters (and sons) dress these days.


11 posted on 10/08/2009 8:20:42 AM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: meandog

Harvey Weinstein shrugs, wonders what the big deal is.


12 posted on 10/08/2009 8:21:15 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Wonder if Whoopi will say that this isn’t “rape-rape” since he didn’t promise her a job in Hollywood and she came on to him.


13 posted on 10/08/2009 8:21:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: meandog
He also blamed the victim for the incident in which he got caught. He claimed she lured him under her Hannah Montana blanket by talking about sex as he was passing her room

And Fredericksburg seems like such a nice town...

For the record, I don't believe a word this guy says. If there was any luring going on, I believe it was the creep who started it.

14 posted on 10/08/2009 8:22:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Grunthor

That is the age of my youngest daughter....I can’t say what I’d do to this guy while posting on this site....GRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 10/08/2009 8:22:56 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: meandog
Wonder if he's related to Roman Polanski?

He's probably never heard of him. His qualification is that he's from Spotsylvania County Virgina. They still have a molester/murderer on the loose for about the last 10 years. Maybe this is him.

16 posted on 10/08/2009 8:23:13 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: meandog
According to court records, Smith also went into detail about an earlier incident in which he claimed the girl came on to him while he was watching sports.

Smith told police that he gets sexually aroused when watching sports and wasn't paying much attention when the girl got on his lap.

HuH?

17 posted on 10/08/2009 8:24:54 AM PDT by digger48
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To: meandog

Since justice escaped him when the mother found him molesting the girl, send him to the pen. They know how to dispense justice for a child molester.


18 posted on 10/08/2009 8:25:00 AM PDT by IamConservative (I'll keep my money. You keep the change.)
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To: TheBattman
It should have ended there. If I were on a jury, I could not vote to convict a mother for shooting a child rapist in the back of the head for raping/molesting her daughter. Period. While the article indicates that this sick beast faces the possibility of life in prison, does anyone really expect that to happen?

Concur. I really believe that any man guilty of sex with a minor should be castrated if sentenced to prison terms as they are only going to try it again when they get out.

19 posted on 10/08/2009 8:25:03 AM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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To: meandog

This guy’s real mistake was not becoming a famous director after doing this. Maybe they should let the guy try making a movie before the trial? If he makes a good movie, they should leave him alone. At the very least, it needs to be determined whether or not this was rape-rape./s


20 posted on 10/08/2009 8:25:10 AM PDT by villagerjoel (1. Implement socialist policies 2. ??? 3. Heaven on earth)
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To: meandog

Even if this scumbag is saying that he was lured into it, you still have to have some kind of underlying sickness to do it.


21 posted on 10/08/2009 8:25:18 AM PDT by Mind Freed (Maybe Obama was the Wright choice... Let's wait till everything Ayers out.)
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To: meandog

That’s not “rape-rape.”

/extreme sarc.


22 posted on 10/08/2009 8:25:55 AM PDT by maggief
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To: GeronL

I find it amazing this man can sit in court & blame the victim. I agree he does need to be removed from this earth asap. Too bad it won’t happen.


23 posted on 10/08/2009 8:28:03 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn.....................^........................)
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To: maggief
That’s not “rape-rape.”

"You said 'rape' twice."

24 posted on 10/08/2009 8:28:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: montag813
Any photos of this “child”? Did the mother allow the girl to doll herself up like a ho-bag? I am still stunned by what I saw at my kids (former) middle school.

I'm with you on that. It's mind boggling how these little kids dress. Even if she did come on to him, the correct response should have been to drag her into her mama and have mama give her a good spanking....... oops, can't have spankings now days so it's best to let them act like sluts.

25 posted on 10/08/2009 8:29:55 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: IamConservative
send him to the pen. They know how to dispense justice for a child molester.

While that was the case in the past, today they don't care. Today's prisoners are all about what gang you side with, not what you did on the outside.

26 posted on 10/08/2009 8:33:15 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Pontiac
Apparently this was a live in boyfriend. Always a bad idea.

Not that a marriage certificate would have helped. Come to think of it, it might have made matters worse.

27 posted on 10/08/2009 8:33:48 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: meandog

I wonder whether she will become an executive producer for the Letterman show?


28 posted on 10/08/2009 8:35:06 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: meandog

Dick, if she’d told you to jump off a cliff, would you have done it?


29 posted on 10/08/2009 8:35:40 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Grunthor

Agreed.

No doubt that girls of that age are going to experiment with their “wiles” but it stretches credulity that it would be on an adult male who is 38 years old. I would be more understanding if he was 18, maybe 20 years old max.

Let him sit in jail for 15 years and think about his decision.


30 posted on 10/08/2009 8:36:00 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: Ouderkirk

If fifteen will get you twenty, twelve should get you thirty!


31 posted on 10/08/2009 8:40:59 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: meandog

I am in no way condoning what this guy did. But I have a friend who teaches this age group. He said the girls are very aggressive and flirty for their age. Some of his stories would make your jaw drop. Just another reason why we homeschool.


32 posted on 10/08/2009 8:43:05 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: montag813
There was a study showing that puberty among black girls is 18-24 months earlier than whites. The study hinted that earlier exposure to sexual activity triggers early onset of puberty. I have no idea if that is true.

I have a VERY hard time believing that to be true. While early onset of puberty may trigger earlier sexual activity, I see no way the opposite can happen.

I say that as the mother of an 11 year old daughter who has physically developed far earlier than I did. I have girls ranging in age from 6-14 in and out of my house on a regular basis, and some of those girls have bodies that many 18 years olds would die for. Heck, I'm 49 and I never had a body like some of them have. SIGH :(

The sad thing is, they are still little girls, but because of how they look they are not taken for what they really are.

They still love to play dress up, and my stash of cocktail dresses and evening gowns are among their favorites (another mom, with a similar collection is another fave.) It's fun for them because they are still little girls and want to play princess. They also know that they can have their fashion shows and put on makeup, but they do it in the house and all makeup is removed before they get ready to leave or even go outside to play.

I don't know why these girls are developing so early, but it is up to the parents to teach them what they need to know, but also to remember that regardless of what they look like, they are still children and need to be treated and protected as such.

33 posted on 10/08/2009 8:45:23 AM PDT by Gabz (Not everyone can access online video or audio, please describe it)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Not that a marriage certificate would have helped. Come to think of it, it might have made matters worse.

Marriage is no guarantee that a second husband won’t molest your daughter but it is not a guarantee that your daughter will not be molested by her own father either.

I have no source other than my own experience, but I believe that marriage would indicate more commitment to the relationship and therefore to the standards of behavior inherent in marriage.

A man that is not willing to marry you or is opposed to marriage period is more likely to lack the morals that would prevent his molesting your daughter.

34 posted on 10/08/2009 8:46:04 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: meandog

So where was DAD? A trial and prison would be the LEAST of this guy’s worries if this were my daughter!


35 posted on 10/08/2009 8:47:06 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: stevio
I am in no way condoning what this guy did. But I have a friend who teaches this age group. He said the girls are very aggressive and flirty for their age. Some of his stories would make your jaw drop. Just another reason why we homeschool.

Well, I've taught this age group and I found most girls to be very shy. However, I will admit that I cannot understand why their moms allow some of them to come to school dressed as they are. A lot of my students already had ears pierced (some with other body parts pierced--nose, eyebrows, etc.). And the mode of dress that some wore can only be described as "slutty redneck" (i.e. skin-tight jeans, blouses that expose part of stomach area and others too low cut). But that's today's public school system for you.

36 posted on 10/08/2009 8:52:23 AM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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To: GeronL
“If it feels good do it” is a phrase from Satan himself.

Maybe it is.....unless you're talking about blowing him away. That would feel good.

37 posted on 10/08/2009 8:52:45 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Ouderkirk

Well, he was an available male in the house, who wasn’t her father.

NO excuse for him though. Just that I was shocked when my daughter was in middle school to see what the 12-year-olds were wearing, and how they would talk about having sex with older men and getting pregnant, and how good that would be for them. Several were in fact pregnant.

Most of this seemed to be among the hispanic population, although blacks were involved as well. I didn’t see it as much among the white population, a lot of whom did not live in the school district but were brought in by bus for specialty programs aimed at raising the schools overall acheivement levels.

A mother has to be extremely careful when allowing a male into her house on a regular basis.


38 posted on 10/08/2009 8:57:48 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: meandog

Was it rape-rape?


39 posted on 10/08/2009 8:58:45 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: meandog

There was a case a few years back where a man made the same claim about a two year old child - that she had “come on to him”. I think she died from the rape.


40 posted on 10/08/2009 8:59:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSM BIAS: grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell)
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To: meandog

The story didn’t mention it, but you also have to wonder if the girl simply didn’t like the guy being with her mother, and wanted to get rid of him.

I’m pretty sure there’s been a movie with that type of plot.


41 posted on 10/08/2009 9:00:23 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Retired COB

Hey I did think about blowing him away. It would make me feel better.

I have an idea. Much cheaper than years in prison.

Shoot them out of a cannon over the Grand Canyon... if they manage to survive and can crawl back out of the canyon, they get a pass. lol.


42 posted on 10/08/2009 9:00:28 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Gabz
While early onset of puberty may trigger earlier sexual activity, I see no way the opposite can happen.

Studies have shown (I know, those words ...) that exposure to sexually-explicit media and sexual behavior is *one* factor in *some* instances of earlier onset of puberty. There's also a correlation with the residence of non-family-member males in the household (e.g., Mom's latest sex partner). There was some discussion of a hormonal mechanism; that is, actual causation rather than simply correlation.

The book that detailed all this, with footnotes, is called "Early Puberty," iirc, and it also observed that *weight* is the major factor in the lower average age of puberty.

43 posted on 10/08/2009 9:00:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (There is no "I" in "Tejano conjunto." It's all about the mission.)
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To: Gabz; montag813
I don't know why these girls are developing so early, but it is up to the parents to teach them what they need to know, but also to remember that regardless of what they look like, they are still children and need to be treated and protected as such.

The latest theory I have read to explain the earlier onset of puberty are;

Better nutrition and less exercise.

A higher percentage of body fat in young girls leads to an earlier onset of puberty. Less exercise by today’s girls leads to the girls carrying extra body fat. Estrogen is fat soluble which means that the girl bodies retain more estrogen than they would if they carried less fat.

Athletic girls (such as swimmers and gymnast) tend to enter puberty later. This is attributed to their lower body fat.

44 posted on 10/08/2009 9:01:30 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: TheBattman
Yep. But being a compassionate conservative, I'd have the crowd sing a couple of hymns before the trap door was sprung.

Can't these sick puppies scrape up $50 to get laid by a professional?

45 posted on 10/08/2009 9:04:56 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: montag813

Nothing the child did would justify a man raping her.
But I told my sister boys and girls (we had one each) alike these days wear thing on street I would not let mine sleep in....its scary. Parent need to be parent not friends to there kids...ie teach them right from wrong the what NO means. Kids are running the home now not parents. God help us all.....I feel for the good parent today.


46 posted on 10/08/2009 9:04:57 AM PDT by ducks1944 (GOD Bless the USA .)
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To: Retired COB
An acquaintance of mine was forced to perform oral sex on a 19 year old “family friend” when she was 11 years old in 1966. Her sister told her parents about it and the father blamed his daughter rather than the molester.

This woman has zero self-esteem and has had two marriages/divorces in her life. She blames herself for the incident and contemplates suicide daily, hoping she will die in her sleep.

Do you think she enticed the molester?

47 posted on 10/08/2009 9:05:53 AM PDT by Tucson Jim
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To: TheBattman
While the article indicates that this sick beast faces the possibility of life in prison

depends on if he's in the general population, or not.

Time served will be a few days longer than it takes for the rest of the inmates to find out what he's in for.

48 posted on 10/08/2009 9:10:25 AM PDT by wbill
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To: meandog

Well maybe he was only talking about a minority of them being flirty. But he did also mention the style of dress as you do.


49 posted on 10/08/2009 9:13:26 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: dfwgator

“I want rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, conmen, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswagglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass kickers, shit kickers and Methodists!”


50 posted on 10/08/2009 9:14:37 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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