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Author defends choice to be childless
Orange County Register ^ | Oct 2, 2009 | Jane Glenn Haas

Posted on 10/09/2009 7:16:47 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814

Laura S. Scott loves her husband. And that, she says, is enough to sustain a marriage.

They don't need children. "Two Is Enough" is the name of her book explaining a couple's guide to living childless by choice.

"I think I knew very early I didn't want to be a mom," Scott tells me. "I never imagined myself a mom, even as a small child. I never played with dolls. I was 15 when I told my mom, and she suggested things might change with my hormones. Nothing changed."

Scott is 47. She's too young to conceive (excuse the pun) the impact the FDA-approved birth control pill had on young women in the 1960s.

A friend of mine remembers. "Because of the pill, I could make a definite choice not to have children," says Mary, 70. "I have never regretted it. I was not designed to change diapers."

Her husband agreed with the decision but her mother couldn't accept it. She spread the word her daughter's husband was sterile.

Scott says, "People still have a hard time understanding our motives. They assume I may not be a real woman? Maybe I'm not in touch with my maternal self?"

My friend remembers hearing the same comments. She also remembers hearing how "you'll regret your choice when you are old."

Scott says people ask her what she will do when she's old. "Well, I'll create a social network with people to come to my aid," she says. "Is that really a reason to have a child? To breed a caregiver?"

And then there is the accusation she is "selfish."

"That is most annoying. Most unfair," Scott said.

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1 posted on 10/09/2009 7:16:49 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Why is it that such people have to announce that they are not having kids? It isn’t exactly that hard to not have children.


2 posted on 10/09/2009 7:21:01 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

No big deal. Lots of people who shouldn’t have kids have them anyway.


3 posted on 10/09/2009 7:21:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

As much as I dislike the enslaving and devaluing of women that occured after the advent of the birth control pill, I have to say that children and the gene pool are better off without this woman.


4 posted on 10/09/2009 7:22:22 AM PDT by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

There will always be couples for whom childlessness is a legitimate option. But in the context of a materialistic, hedonistic culture, this is a symptom of cultural suicide. Western civilization is dying, and in a matter of decades not centuries. What will replace it?


5 posted on 10/09/2009 7:22:37 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

WGAS? Having children (or not) is a choice and not something to be celebrated or denigrated one way or the other.


6 posted on 10/09/2009 7:23:05 AM PDT by Grunthor (Thank YOU George Bush, for giving us the GOP of today!)
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To: cripplecreek
Lots of people who shouldn’t have kids have them anyway.

And this b**** is in the top ten on that list.

7 posted on 10/09/2009 7:23:12 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: pnh102

No Maternal instincts. She’d make a great terrorist.


8 posted on 10/09/2009 7:23:30 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
"Having children — or being childless — has a lot to do with a woman's identity. We can be financially independent beings on our own. Our security is not tied to marriage and children," Scott says.

Security. Tell that to the sterile Europeans in 20 years.

9 posted on 10/09/2009 7:24:09 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: pnh102

My wife and I thought that way for awhile being that we couldn’t seem to conceive. After 11 years and basically coming to grips with being childless my wife unexpectedly gets pregnant with twin boys.

They are now 12 yrs old and the joy of my (and her) life. Amazing how wrong one can be.


10 posted on 10/09/2009 7:24:30 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: pnh102
"Why is it that such people have to announce that they are not having kids?"

As the Bard once penned, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

People who are not comfortable with their own actions, choices, decisions, etc. feel compelled to justify them to themselves and seek approval from others.

11 posted on 10/09/2009 7:27:41 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: traderrob6

My wife and I will be married 11 years next week. We waited to have children because of college and me being in the military but are now trying to start a family. I’m 33 and she’s 32.

We want 2 children.


12 posted on 10/09/2009 7:31:02 AM PDT by TSgt (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
So long has she isn't using abortion as her method of birth control, then I am not too worried. She has the right to not have children just as much as the Duggars have the right to have 18 19 children. Keep the government out of such choices (and the government should not have to fund either abortion or for children you cannot support yourself.)
13 posted on 10/09/2009 7:32:39 AM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: massgopguy
No Maternal instincts. She’d make a great terrorist.

I don't have the slightest desire to have children, thus no paternal instincts. Does that make me a great terrorist?

14 posted on 10/09/2009 7:38:29 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

A desire to not have children tends to rapidly remove itself from the gene pool.


15 posted on 10/09/2009 7:40:33 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: GL of Sector 2814
Scott says people ask her what she will do when she's old. "Well, I'll create a social network with people to come to my aid," she says. "Is that really a reason to have a child? To breed a caregiver?"

And, of course - ALL THOSE BIG GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS that you and your kids WILL BE PAYING FOR IN TAXES.

16 posted on 10/09/2009 7:40:59 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
Raising kids is not easy, but seeing your son graduate magna cum laude from law school and looking forward to dancing with your daughter at her wedding next spring makes it worth all the stress.
17 posted on 10/09/2009 7:41:20 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I have no beef with childless couples, I just wish that the significant portion of them who act like martyrs about it would quit whining.


18 posted on 10/09/2009 7:43:06 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I have no beef with couples that choose to be childless, I just wish that the significant portion of them who act like martyrs about it would quit whining.


19 posted on 10/09/2009 7:43:28 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: massgopguy

That’s an awfully big leap.


20 posted on 10/09/2009 7:44:52 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: pnh102
Why is it that such people have to announce that they are not having kids? It isn’t exactly that hard to not have children.

They need to justify their choice to everyone else, and most of all, themselves. I'll take a wild guess and say that this couple is a pair of incredibly narcissistic libs.

There's nothing wrong with having kids, or not having them. It's a personal choice, and it should stay that way.

21 posted on 10/09/2009 7:48:19 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Liberty1970
"What will replace it?"

Can you say "Allah Akbar". I knew ya could.

22 posted on 10/09/2009 7:56:30 AM PDT by Desron13
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I’m 34 & my wife’s 28. She had a hysterectomy about 3 years ago due to endometriosis-type symptoms and other serious health problems, and it’s probably just as well since some of them are genetic. We’d like to have kids, and still may adopt if we ever get financially sound enough to do so & if her health is good enough to care for a child, but I don’t really see why anyone else (outside the family) would care what we do or why.


23 posted on 10/09/2009 7:57:01 AM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
My guess is that after having become well acquainted with these clowns (yah,the husband too) I would come to conclude that they both did this world a *huge* favor by remaining childless.
24 posted on 10/09/2009 7:57:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: MikeWUSAF
My wife and I will be married 11 years next week. We waited to have children because of college and me being in the military but are now trying to start a family. I’m 33 and she’s 32. We want 2 children.

That is just awesome. I hope you become fruitful soon. The two absolute best moments in my life was when I held each of my children for the very first time. If you have never been brought to your knees out of sheer joy and love prepare yourself for it. It is absolutely amazing.
25 posted on 10/09/2009 7:59:14 AM PDT by Frogtacos (Horse lovers are stable people.)
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To: Sloth
We’d like to have kids, and still may adopt if we ever get financially sound enough to do so & if her health is good enough to care for a child, but I don’t really see why anyone else (outside the family) would care what we do or why.

It sounds like your situation is *much* different.Health problems play a big role in your case.There's no evidence that that's true with these narcissistic clowns.

26 posted on 10/09/2009 8:00:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Which is exactly why I’m not writing a book about how awesome we are not to have kids.


27 posted on 10/09/2009 8:03:53 AM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
Is that really a reason to have a child? To breed a caregiver?

Get with the twentieth century - we elect our caregivers nowadays. Instead of expecting our kids to help us out when we become old, we expect strangers we don't know and and have no responsibility toward to fill that role. Of course we'll never meet them, but our elected caregivers/nannies will tax their livelihood on our behalf.

28 posted on 10/09/2009 8:12:09 AM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: Sloth
Which is exactly why I’m not writing a book about how awesome we are not to have kids.

Oh,I get it now,I misunderstood the tone of your earlier post.Sometimes I ain't too bright! ;-)

29 posted on 10/09/2009 8:17:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

“I don’t have the slightest desire to have children, thus no paternal instincts. Does that make me a great terrorist?”

No, absolutely not!

I personally grew up around a ‘mother’ who should never have had children and it was a nightmare for everyone involved. Had pressure from society not been applied, she would have given up the child for adoption to a loving home and spared everyone from a life-long terrible tragedy.

The freedom to recognize that one isn’t cut out for the parenting gig is a healthy thing.


30 posted on 10/09/2009 8:20:00 AM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: massgopguy

How many kids does Ann Coulter have?

She comes across about as maternally as Cruella de Ville. Would she make a good terrorist as well?

And for those of you a) suggest pictures every time her name is mentioned, please don’t, and b) who want to jump down my throat for mentioning a sacred cow less than positively, have at it.


31 posted on 10/09/2009 8:51:29 AM PDT by dmz
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To: pnh102

Mostly because people like you start asking constantly about “when”! I can’t tell you how often I’d love to just tell pople to mind their own d@mn buisness. I am 49 and Dh and I knew long ago that we didn’t want any kids.


32 posted on 10/09/2009 10:27:39 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Fine.

Treat with contempt the struggle of all the generations before you to convey the precious gift of life to the next generation.

The fewer children liberals and leftists have, the fewer there will be to deal with in the future.

Now, if we can just get them to all subscribe to early VHE (voluntary human extinction, another ultraliberal cause), we won’t have to support them in their old age either.

How about a nice cup of Kool-Aid, dear?


33 posted on 10/09/2009 10:29:02 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

“I don’t have the slightest desire to have children, thus no paternal instincts. Does that make me a great terrorist?”

No it makes you know yourself better than most people do.I have nothing against little kids and love them but never ever wanted any that I was responsible for.


34 posted on 10/09/2009 10:31:15 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: wbill

You all should reread what you all have just said about a couple who chooses not to have kids then realize that why people like us have to constantly defend our choice. It’s very narrow minded to think that there is only one way in the world to live and it is your way!


35 posted on 10/09/2009 10:35:29 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: JimWforBush; martin_fierro; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; najida; Allegra; RockinRight; ...
FREERIDERS!
36 posted on 10/09/2009 10:37:28 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Happyinmygarden

“The freedom to recognize that one isn’t cut out for the parenting gig is a healthy thing.”

I agree. I also have NO maternal instincts... to start off with, I’m extremely bad at interacting properly with babies or small children, my family history indicates I’ll most likely have a problematic pregnancy or birth, and I have genetic health problems that WILL end with me. If I change my mind, I can adopt, cause there are too many sick kids in the world for me to want to make even more.


37 posted on 10/09/2009 11:00:26 AM PDT by Hyzenthlay (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Liberty1970

Christian civilization is already dead. Why should I bring a child into such an evil society? I can’t stand even the thought of bringing children into the world only to witness their corruption and/or death.

Screw that. I intend to find a woman who isn’t a self-centered fiend and then adopt some special needs kids whom nobody wants. There is no way in hell I’m adding more members to the outer ring of hell known as Obamania.


38 posted on 10/09/2009 11:42:01 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: dirtboy

Pretty soon there won’t be any gene pools left. I don’t intend to have children just so that they can be turned into dead meat or drugged up moonbats.


39 posted on 10/09/2009 11:46:38 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Captain Rhino

First off, life is not a precious gift, it is a horrible curse.

Second, liberals don’t need to have many children. Evil people have been learning to dominate impressionable young minds for thousands of years. Now they are starting to get REALLY good at it.


40 posted on 10/09/2009 11:53:59 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Soothesayer

Well, you are entitled to your opinion.

Just don’t mistake it for mine.


41 posted on 10/09/2009 12:03:20 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: chris_bdba
Perhaps I should have made my post more clear.

There's nothing wrong with having kids, or not having them. It's an intensely personal choice, much like religion or politics.

However, when someone not only feels the need to announce loudly to the world "HEY! I'm not going have any kids!"....but also follows it up with a book justifying their decision ...to me, that's the height of narcissism.

42 posted on 10/09/2009 12:51:31 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Freeriders Rock.


43 posted on 10/09/2009 1:46:14 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick
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To: Joe 6-pack

I don’t think it’s as much about announcing...as people probably continuously bothering them about it. I have neighbors in their early 50’s who have been married for almost 20 years. They don’t go around pronouncing their choice to not have children, but other people are soo rude!!! When asked if they have children they simply say no...but there are people who actually have the gall to ask “why not?” It happens to my single friends as well.... the onslaught of “why aren’t you married?”
The presumption is there’s something wrong with them.


44 posted on 10/09/2009 3:05:40 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

45 posted on 10/09/2009 3:09:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Elvina
I have to say that children and the gene pool are better off without this woman.

why so negative toward her? i don't get that... she doesn't seem selfish... she doesn't seem to despise children... they chose not to be parents... why the negativity?

46 posted on 10/09/2009 3:25:07 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
Does that make me a great terrorist?

no--ignore those comments... it's funny how many Freepers don't want the government telling them what is right for them, but seem to think they know what's right for everyone else...

47 posted on 10/09/2009 3:28:14 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Sloth

Because some people apparently don’t have enough to do living their own “perfect” personal lives, and are just certain that they know better than you do how to live what to them is your “imperfect” life.

To be honest with you, I prefer the person who will come right out and ask impudent questions to those who speculate and spread erroneous gossip behind your back.

Would that it were only speculation, and flawed opinions, about the personal lives of childless couples!


48 posted on 10/09/2009 3:56:37 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Katya

That is exactly what happens! I’m 49 and hubby is 52 we are asked by people we barely know why we don’t have kids. Some even go so far as to pronounce how “sorry” our lives must be? What? I lost it once when some distant relative told us how empty her life would be without her kids, I just told her I thought that was really sad that her kids were all she had to fill it up with and that I thought that was an awful burden for her children to fill. She stomped off mad as h*ll but never ever considered how rude her remarks were to me?


49 posted on 10/09/2009 4:58:32 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Tijeras_Slim; JimWforBush; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; najida; Allegra; RockinRight
BREAKING: OBAMA WINS THE

50 posted on 10/10/2009 1:56:03 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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