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The Julia Set: UFO crop circle witnesses come forward
allnewsweb ^ | 16 October 2009 | Colin Andrews

Posted on 10/16/2009 2:58:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono

In July of 1996 one of the most complex and spectacular crop circle designs ever seen appeared in a field opposite Stonehenge. The design became known as “The Julia Set” because it resembled the mathematical fractal called by that name. The formation was remarkable not only because of its complexity and beauty but also due to several anomalies associated with its discovery....

The formation was first spotted from an aircraft at 6:15 PM. The pilot crossed over the field with a passenger (a medical doctor taking pictures) at 5:30 PM and both reported that there was no formation in the field at that time. This is corroborated by the security guards at Stonehenge who claimed the formation was not in the field earlier in the day. The pilot landed his plane at the nearest airfield, the passenger disembarked, and the pilot refuelled for another flight. The pilot took off again and crossed the field at 6:15 when he saw the Julia Set formation in the field. At about the same time (6:30) his previous passenger drove past Stonehenge to see cars pulled off the side of the busy road. These cars will prove important to today’s new release.....

What has recently been revealed is that the people in those cars may well have seen the formation forming. According to researcher Lucy Pringle, a woman has come forward to say that a taxi driver and passenger were with the parked vehicles and the occupants could not believe what they witnessed. They stood for 20 minutes witnessing this large design form under a swirling cloud of mist. The full story can be read on Lucy Pringles website at (below).

According to Lucy’s report, she gave a talk in April, 2009 at Alton College in Hampshire. Shortly afterwards a friend telephoned her to say that “a friend of hers had been in a taxi and had mentioned to the taxi driver that she had just been to a fascinating talk on Crop Circles. M, the taxi driver, said: I saw one appear opposite Stonehenge.” Lucy soon realized the formation being discussed was the Julia Set of 1996.

Lucy writes, “She mentioned that when people see maybe two cars or more pulled in and looking down into the field, other cars stop and gradually the traffic builds up and more and more cars draw in to have a look.” What the group saw is described: “There was an apparition, an isolated mist over it (the formation) and as the circle was getting bigger the mist was rising above the circle. As the mist rose it got bigger and the corn circle got bigger. There was a mist was about 2-3 feet off the ground and it was sort of spinning around and on the ground a circular shape was appearing which seemed to get bigger and bigger as simultaneously the mist gets bigger and bigger and swirled faster. It was gradual and you are standing there and you are thinking what is going on and everyone is discussing it and more and more traffic is building up and everything and you just think that all the time you don't really realise what is happening and then you think then that's it and the thing is getting bigger and you are thinking of the beginning and end. But you don't realise what you are looking at. I didn’t understand what was happening......”


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: ajntsa; callingartbell; cropcircle; jpb; tinfoil; ufo
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The Julia set. This cropcircle appeared 10 years ago, July 1996, near the stonehenge under broad daylight and the crowd of stonehenge visitors. You can see from the pic that, compare to stonehenge, how big this cropcircle was!


1 posted on 10/16/2009 2:58:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

A complete and thorough debunking of crop circles:

http://circlemakers.org/


2 posted on 10/16/2009 3:02:51 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: JoeProBono

Those whacky hoaxers with boards and chains must have rented a fog machine

sarc

Other witnesses have seen small balls of light at work creating crop circles. Its is getting harder and harder to say we are not being visited.

Now- why? And what are they trying to tell us? And why don’t they just use the internet?

Here’s a possible Mayan Calendar crop circle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEMnuXqfGYc


3 posted on 10/16/2009 3:04:54 PM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: angkor

4 posted on 10/16/2009 3:05:01 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: angkor

Pretty big conspiracy of taxi drivers, locals and tourists trying to fool people, aren’t there?


5 posted on 10/16/2009 3:06:28 PM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: JoeProBono

I wonder how long before those 3 weirdos from the “UFO Hunters” on the History Channel show up? I enjoy hearing about UFOs, because they are interesting, but those guys are an embarrassment. Especially that older guy, I think he may be a psycho. lol


6 posted on 10/16/2009 3:07:34 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: silverleaf

Mayan Calendar crop circle


7 posted on 10/16/2009 3:08:21 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: KoRn

8 posted on 10/16/2009 3:11:38 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: angkor
A complete and thorough debunking of crop circles:

http://circlemakers.org/

You couldn't be more wrong.

9 posted on 10/16/2009 3:14:34 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: silverleaf

http://www.circlemakers.org/la.html

During a recent trip to LA circlemaker Rod Dickinson met up with the American Ufologist Michael Lindemann to chew the fat about crop circles. The following article was printed in Michael’s news letter CNI News and relates Rod’s main contentions about the 1996 crop circle season. The interview wasn’t taped but we feel that the core arguments are accurately represented...

During the meeting a significant amount of money was offered to ‘The Circlemakers’ to create a formation of equivalent scale and geometric complexity to the Stonehenge ‘Julia Set’. Lindemann has stated that one of the conditions is that “the authors of the Stonehenge Julia Set must identify themselves to us.” ‘The Circlemakers’ ARE willing to accept the challenge if they don’t have to claim the Stonehenge formation...

Crop Circle “artist” declares ‘Julia Sets’ man-made
By Michael Lindemann

On July 7, 1996, in a field just south of Stonehenge, separated from that famous monument by the busy A303 highway which traverses the Salisbury Plain in southern England, a spectacular geometric formation appeared in the standing wheat. Quickly dubbed the Stonehenge Julia Set [a Julia Set is a particular kind of shape derived from fractal geometry], this formation was undeniably the most intricate and impressive “agriglyph” ever seen. It consisted of 149 separate circles arrayed in a huge spiral, measuring over 500 feet in width and approximately 915 feet in length along its curving spine. The constituent circles in this formation measured from less than six feet to over sixty feet in diameter.


10 posted on 10/16/2009 3:15:07 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: KoRn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5IKmWDmHk

You might find this interesting


11 posted on 10/16/2009 3:18:48 PM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: JoeProBono

Oh, yeah. Aliens would travel all this way just to draw pictures in fields. Farmers hardest hit! Geez.


12 posted on 10/16/2009 3:19:52 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Isabel C.
You couldn't be more wrong.

http://www.circlemakers.org/totc2007.html


13 posted on 10/16/2009 3:20:08 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: angkor

14 posted on 10/16/2009 3:24:50 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Related thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2364202/posts


15 posted on 10/16/2009 3:31:06 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: JoeProBono
Crop circles have been appearing for hundreds of years - they seem to be ramping up in frequency and complexity.

They seem to be mathematical - perhaps because math is math - it is what it is, wherever in the Universe you are...the one thing man can't change.

Who knows, if things keep going like they are in this country, we may welcome someone with a higher intelligence and the old Robert Frost “Stop the world, I want to get off...” may become a real choice - chuckle.

At any event, with all the information coming to light on them, they can't be dismissed off the cuff.

Myself, I sure as he*l hope there's someone in the vast Universe that's more civilized than we are.

TAke a browse through some of the books -

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_1_11?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=crop+circles+books&sprefix=crop+circle

16 posted on 10/16/2009 3:31:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: JoeProBono

17 posted on 10/16/2009 3:32:50 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: JoeProBono

No hoof prints. You could do something similar with a transit and a lot of people, but still no hoof prints.


18 posted on 10/16/2009 3:34:24 PM PDT by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: ReneeLynn

19 posted on 10/16/2009 3:35:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: silverleaf

Perhaps they are just alien graffiti artists...


20 posted on 10/16/2009 3:39:37 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: maine-iac7

21 posted on 10/16/2009 3:41:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: maine-iac7

Don’t worry, there is something. But you won’t find Him in a spaceship.


22 posted on 10/16/2009 3:42:30 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: BenLurkin

23 posted on 10/16/2009 3:43:00 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono; Quix

ping


24 posted on 10/16/2009 3:44:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: brytlea

Well, I haven’t heard of any graffiti artists painting binary code messages on walls in Chicago!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k&feature=related


25 posted on 10/16/2009 3:44:34 PM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: JoeProBono

26 posted on 10/16/2009 3:45:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: silverleaf

Yes, but surely alien graffiti artists speak in binary code!


27 posted on 10/16/2009 3:59:08 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

Doesn’t everyone?


28 posted on 10/16/2009 4:10:46 PM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: JoeProBono

29 posted on 10/16/2009 4:34:17 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: angkor

Which, the clueless, uninformed, the narrow and rigidly biased; those poor in critical thinking and in research; . . . may gullibly go gah gah over.

. . . even though the vast majority of crop formations do not begin to match the descriptors the naysayers are so robotically driven to compulsively & mindlessly spout.


30 posted on 10/16/2009 5:08:59 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ConservativeMan55; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; A knight without armor; albertp; ...

THANKS. A good treatment of a very interesting circle and event.

PING to level 1 of the UFO PING LIST.


31 posted on 10/16/2009 5:12:35 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: angkor

Lucy writes, “She mentioned that when people see maybe two cars or more pulled in and looking down into the field, other cars stop and gradually the traffic builds up and more and more cars draw in to have a look.” What the group saw is described: “There was an apparition, an isolated mist over it (the formation) and as the circle was getting bigger the mist was rising above the circle. As the mist rose it got bigger and the corn circle got bigger. There was a mist was about 2-3 feet off the ground and it was sort of spinning around and on the ground a circular shape was appearing which seemed to get bigger and bigger as simultaneously the mist gets bigger and bigger and swirled faster. It was gradual and you are standing there and you are thinking what is going on and everyone is discussing it and more and more traffic is building up and everything and you just think that all the time you don’t really realise what is happening and then you think then that’s it and the thing is getting bigger and you are thinking of the beginning and end. But you don’t realise what you are looking at. I didn’t understand what was happening......”


Doesn’t sound like a couple of drunks with boards on ropes, to me.

DOH!


32 posted on 10/16/2009 5:14:53 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: angkor

I gather you never read the post.

I gather you haven’t read much about crop formations at all.

I gather you haven’t talked to any internationially known researchers in the phenomenon face to face at all and certainly not for any length.

I suspect your biases tend to distort your perceptions about more things than just crop formations.

Very impressive.


33 posted on 10/16/2009 5:17:57 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Isabel C.

INDEED.

What is with those folks . . . at this point . . . there’s plenty of data in . . .

The differences between hoaxed formations and authentic formations are huge and scientifically verified in peer reviewed scientific journals.

The naysayers on this topic are clueless idiots . . . and a lot of them evidently rather lazy about research, as well.


34 posted on 10/16/2009 5:21:03 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 21stCenturion

...


35 posted on 10/16/2009 5:43:02 PM PDT by 21stCenturion ("It's the Judges, Stupid !")
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To: Quix

Just to be clear, I’m not intimidated by your silly posts.

But you’re too boring to engage with.


36 posted on 10/16/2009 5:50:09 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: angkor

37 posted on 10/16/2009 5:55:39 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

38 posted on 10/16/2009 5:58:08 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Quix

Get back to me when the “witnesses” pass a polygraph.


39 posted on 10/16/2009 5:58:42 PM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Stupid.)
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To: PLMerite

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh . . .

yes . . . your criteria is sooooooooo impressive . . .

those things courts usually don’t allow inevidence because they are

soooooooooo chronically sooooooooooooo inaccurate.

Real impressive criteria you have there.

Don’t hold your breath. I haven’t found most naysayers or their arguments the least bit motivating to get back to.


40 posted on 10/16/2009 6:11:16 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: angkor

Lots of folks gag on the truth.

Few admit it so candidly.


41 posted on 10/16/2009 6:12:12 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

And your criteria for believing these “witnesses” other than you just want to ?

Do you think they’d be willing to make a statement under oath ?


42 posted on 10/16/2009 6:25:29 PM PDT by PLMerite (Speak Truth to Stupid.)
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To: Quix

Others retch at the lies and BS propagated by lunatics.


43 posted on 10/16/2009 6:48:04 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: PLMerite

Over the years, a number of such witnesses HAVE SIGNED witnessed notorized documents . . . essentially under oath.

Your assumptions ARE WRONG.

This case is impressive enough on it’s own.

As one of many 100’s of impressive cases, it’s more than a little extraordinary.

You clearly are uninformed.

And your biases are screaming much louder and more significantly than the amount of reading and research you seem to have done . . . the biases and assumptions are the size of Pike’s Peak and your researched knowledge appears to equal about a pea, in size.

Real impressive, that.


44 posted on 10/16/2009 6:49:01 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: PLMerite

However,

Linda Moulton Howe’s site

http://www.earthfiles.com

has links to the several peer reviewed articles in scientific journals affirming that nonhoaxed crop formations are unique scientifically unique on at least 7 or so variables.

Linda has done a lot of research and has a lot of witness testimony on her site—much of it behind a subscriber’s only wall.

I’ve talked with her at some length and her objectivity and research thoroughness were impressive, to me.

Clueless naysayers are the opposite of impressive, to me.


45 posted on 10/16/2009 6:51:07 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

46 posted on 10/16/2009 6:52:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: angkor

I’m surprised that most naysayers can find the light switch, the toilet or tell which way is up, . . .

much more so what’s a lie and what’s the truth.

It must be similarly challenging for them to be able to tell the difference between bull food and bull poo.

To a person, they all seem to be utterly blindly and ignorantly and compulsively addicted to

a virtual certainty of a TYPE II ERROR.

ATS has a motto . . .

DENY IGNORANCE

as in prevent it.

Seems like naysayers hereon have a motto

WALLOW IN IGNORANCE

or

EXALT IN IGNORANCE

or

BECOME IGNORANCE

Veryyyyyyyy impressive.


47 posted on 10/16/2009 6:57:54 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

The explanation is simple: ninjas.


48 posted on 10/16/2009 6:59:27 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: JoeProBono

You’re a persistent treasure, Dear Heart.

Thx.

BTW, what is with this last several days, this week . . .

it’s like the naysayers have been

ON SPEED or something . . . or caught distemper or really are afflicted with foaming-at-the-mouth rabies!

Sheesh.

Maybe they’ve been breeding inside such tiny little boxes it’s getting crowded in there and they are living chronically out of sorts.


49 posted on 10/16/2009 7:00:13 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

bttt


50 posted on 10/16/2009 7:01:21 PM PDT by Peace Is Coming
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