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ROOSEVELT BARS WAR SUBMARINES FROM USING U.S. PORTS, WATERS (10/19/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 10/19/39 | Bertram D. Hulen, Frank L. Kluckhohn

Posted on 10/19/2009 5:41:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 10/19/2009 5:41:32 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
EVOLUTION OF PLAN YELLOW OCTOBER 1939-JANUARY 1940



This map will also be posted on my profile.

2 posted on 10/19/2009 5:42:24 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson


Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm

3 posted on 10/19/2009 5:43:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
The International Situation – 2
3-Mile Zone Closed – 2-3
Incidents in European Conflict – 3
Red Army Experts Fly to Help China – 4-5
Japan Bars Rises in Prices and Wages – 5
Grew Admonishes Japanese on China – 5
Nazis’ French Radio Aide To Be Tried for Treason – 5
Plane-Ship Battle Seen in North Sea [Home-schooler warning! Includes scantily clad lady pic.] – 6
Berlin Hails Crew That Sank Warship – 7
U. S. Vessel Saves 300 From 2 Ships – 8
4 posted on 10/19/2009 5:44:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Ah the phony war. I personally prefer what the Germans called this period, der sitzkrieg.


5 posted on 10/19/2009 5:46:58 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Wow. MSM reported news different back then. The stories are full of facts and sources. Quotes are attributed and it is informational almost boring. This must be what news was suppose to be. You can’t find dry factual stuff written in print as news anywhere like that anymore.


6 posted on 10/19/2009 5:47:38 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/oct39/f19oct39.htm

German Army agrees on Western campaign
Thursday, October 19, 1939 www.onwar.com

From Berlin... OKH issues Fall Gelb (Operation Yellow) in response to Directive No. 6 issued by Hitler on October 9th. It provides for a holding action on the French border with the main attack being sent through central Belgium and some attention being devoted to the Dutch. Meanwhile, Hitler officially incorporates western Poland into the German Reich.

In Occupied Poland... The first Jewish ghetto is established in Lublin, the center of a Jewish “reserve” in eastern Poland.

In Ankara... An Ango-French-Turkish Treaty of Mutual Assistance is signed. Allied commanders General Maxime Weygand and General Archibald Wavell represent France and Britain respectively. The term of the treaty is 15 years. The Turks pledge to aid the Allies if the war reaches the Mediterranean, but not if such aid could bring Turkey into conflict with the Soviet Union. In return, Turkey receives control of the disputed Sanjak of Alexandretta from French Syria.

In Britain... Two German airmen, half the crew of a bomber shot down over the North Sea on Tuesday, drifted ashore in a collapsible rubber boat near Whitby.

In London... The Ministry of Transport announces that in September, first month of the black-out, the total number of persons killed on the roads of Britain was 1130, compared with 617 in August.


7 posted on 10/19/2009 5:54:43 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

President Roosevelt’s response to Dr. Einstein

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

October 19, 1939

My dear Professor:

I want to thank you for your recent letter and the most interesting and important enclosure.

I found this data of such import that I have convened a Board consisting of the head of the Bureau of Standards and a chosen representative of the Army and Navy to thoroughly investigate the possibilities of your suggestion regarding the element of uranium.

I am glad to say that Dr. Sachs will cooperate and work with this Committee and I feel this is the most practical and effective method of dealing with the subject.

Please accept my sincere thanks.

Dr. Albert Einstein,
Old Grove Road,
Nassau Point,
Poconic, Long Island,
New York


8 posted on 10/19/2009 6:25:02 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

NAVAL EVENTS-Thursday, 19 October

While in dock at Devonport, destroyer KEMPENFELT was transferred to the Canadian Navy as HMCS ASSINIBOINE. She had been there since 29 September repairing collision damage from the day before. As ASSINIBOINE, she departed Plymouth for Halifax on 7 November.

Light cruisers CARDIFF, DIOMEDE, DRAGON departed Sullom Voe for Northern Patrol.

Two cruisers were on Northern Patrol between the Shetland and the Faroes, AMCs AURANIA, CALIFORNIA, CHITRAL between the Faroes and Iceland, and light cruiser SHEFFIELD and AMCs RAWALPINDI, SCOTSTOUN, TRANSYLVANIA in the Denmark Strait.

Destroyers INTREPID, ICARUS, IVANHOE arrived at Loch Ewe and sister ship IMPULSIVE at Scapa Flow on the 25th, all for duty with the Home Fleet.

Destroyers ILEX, ISIS, IMPERIAL joined the 22nd Flotilla at Harwich on the 31st, were released from the Flotilla on 5 November and rejoined the 3rd Flotilla operating with the Home Fleet – IMOGEN, after completing repairs, and IMPERIAL on 8 November, ILEX and ISIS on the 14th, and INGLEFIELD, also after completing repairs, on the 16th.

Destroyer WHITEHALL and sloop WESTON attacked a submarine contact three miles ENE of St Abb’s Head.

Convoy OA.22 of nine ships departed Southend escorted by destroyer VESPER, which stayed until the convoy dispersed on the 21st.

Convoy OB.22 departed Liverpool escorted by destroyers MACKAY and VIMY, the destroyers detaching on the 22nd to escort SL.4.

Prize regulations for U-boats were lifted for shipping as far west as 20 degrees.

German tanker BISKAYA (6386grt) had departed Hamburg on 13 August for Port Arthur, Texas, but with the start of war, found refuge at Las Palmas until 7 October when she attempted to return to Germany. She was captured on the 19th by armed merchant cruiser SCOTSTOUN on Northern Patrol in the Denmark Strait, taken to Leith by a prize crew commanded by Lt Cdr R H A Clark RNR, and renamed EMPIRE UNITY in British service.

German tanker GONZENHEIM (4574grt), which had departed Buenas Aires on 14 September, was intercepted by armed merchant cruiser RAWALPINDI on Northern Patrol in the Denmark Strait, and scuttled.

French destroyer FOUDROYANT had arrived at Casablanca on 13 September with convoy 9.B of steamers STRASBOURGEOIS, MAROC, JUMIEGES and POITIERS after leaving Brest on the 7th October, as well as SAINT NAZAIRE, escorted by sloop CHEVREUIL after leaving Quiberon, also on the 7th.

Quite separately, destroyer BOURRASQUE reached Casablanca on the 17th with convoy 3.K of steamers MARRAKECH and KERGUELEN. They had left Le Verdon on the 13th. Both destroyers then departed Casablanca and arrived at Gibraltar on this date.

Heavy cruiser DORSETSHIRE departed Hong Kong for Singapore and duty with the 4th Cruiser Squadron in the East Indies Station. She left Singapore on the 22nd for Colombo.


9 posted on 10/19/2009 6:30:16 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

War Diary and War Standing Orders of Commander in Chief, Submarines- Admiral Donitz

Still no report from U 40 on her Channel passage. This fact, added to radio intelligence reports on the 14th that 4 U-boats had been sunk, one of them by French forces, gives rise to the suspicion that U-40 and U 12 (see F.O. U/B West’s War Log) have been lost in the Channel.

According to radio intelligence reports 2 boats were sighted in the Channel west of the Straits of Dover, so it must be assumed that the boats got through the mined Dover-Calais narrows and were lost west of this. I view the question of the Channel passage as follows:

1) U 31 passed the Dover-Calais narrows once, U 15 twice, probably also U 12 and U 40 once each.

2) U 35 did not have to turn back, her doing so does not disprove the possibility of getting through the Channel.

3) Danger from mines must be regarded as the most dangerous aspect of the Channel passage. In all probability however, there have not been any victims of mines as yet, possibly U 12 on her way back.

4) Losses of boats so far have been 2 in the Atlantic or North Sea (U 27, 30), 2 probably in the Atlantic (U 42, 45), 2 perhaps in the Channel. These losses do not preclude the Channel passage.

5) The danger of surprise air attack is no greater in the Channel than in the open sea area, as boats have to proceed submerged by day anyhow.

6) I am therefore loath at present to give up the enormous advantage of the short approach route through the Channel. But the question will have to come up for constant consideration.

U 46 encountered a fresh convoy of 15 ships, but she was soon driven off by destroyers and lost contact. On the orders of Naval War Staff, the area in which unrestricted action can be taken against darkened ships has been extended to 30 degrees west.


10 posted on 10/19/2009 6:34:08 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Telegram

URGENT
Moscow, October 19, 1939.

No. 568 of October 19
Reference your telegram No. 594 of October 17.

Molotov today informed me that Stalin approved the account of the negotiations in Moscow that the Reich Foreign Minister contemplates making in his forthcoming speech. He only asked that instead of the sentences quoted as the statement of Stalin:

“Germany was taking a proud attitude . . . “ up to “ . . . getting into a difficult position,” the following version be adopted: “The attitude of Germany in declining military aid commands respect. However, a strong Germany is the absolute prerequisite for peace in Europe, whence it follows that the Soviet Union is interested in the existence of a strong Germany. Therefore the Soviet Union cannot give its approval to the Western powers creating conditions which would weaken Germany and place her in a difficult position. Therein lies the community of interests between Germany and the Soviet Union.”

SCHULENBURG

The Avalon Project-http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/ns113.asp


11 posted on 10/19/2009 6:36:12 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

19-OCT-1939
Bristol Blenheim Mk.I
Operator: RAF 108 Sqn.
Registration: L1213
Airplane damage: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire - United Kingdom
Phase: Initial climb
Nature: Military
Departure airport: Bicester
Narrative:
Flew into ground at night & DBF.


12 posted on 10/19/2009 6:37:59 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Dunkirk should be interesting...


13 posted on 10/19/2009 6:48:17 AM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The Black Sea is another area where I don’t remember reading or hearing a lot about battles during WW2.


14 posted on 10/19/2009 6:50:11 AM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Native Germans are being evacuated (”Resettled”) from soon-to-be Soviet Controlled Latvia to Posen, in what German Papers are calling “the Great Migration”:

From the Latvian Newspaper “Jaunakas Zinas” (Translation: The Latest News)

-First 59 resettlers left Liepaja port on the board of “Frigg”. They were the citizens of Germany, who resided in Latvia.

- Now, when the registration of the resettlers has almost been completed, the packaging of the properties of the resettlers has started. The German society has organized in Riga 5 shops of packaging materials and will offer 30,000 boxes, 9000 kg of wood shavings, 15,000 kg of jute, 11,000 kg of nails and 20,000 wooden plates for making inscriptions on packages. The harbor has reserved 10,000 sq. meters for storing of packages, and 2,500 of them are now filled in.

- The Minister of Justice ordered that the judges desiring to emigrate should not take part in court sessions anymore.

- A report of Anslavs Eglitis (a well-known Latvian author) about the German colony Irsi [Hirschenhof] is published .

Already in the train he has heard talks how cheaply Germans sell out their properties. That a horse was bought for 60 Ls (normal price about 200-300 Ls), two dozens of geese were bought for 10 Ls etc. In the colony he also observed that many, especially elderly, peasants could hardly begin to negotiate prices, rather agreed with everything and gave up as lost.

Almost all colonists are ready to emigrate, but the author did not see any happy resettler.

http://www.roots-saknes.lv/Ethnicities/Germans/1939/German_Migrations1939SO.htm


15 posted on 10/19/2009 6:50:13 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: mainepatsfan

Not too phony for those aboard the Royal Oak and other ships being sunk


16 posted on 10/19/2009 6:51:06 AM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: GeronL

There were several, but the Soviets basicly controlled the Black Sea throughout the war, despite sometimes heavy losses from Axis aircraft.

The Germans would eventually move several older submarines OVER LAND, to Romania, in to the Black Sea, but the results would never justify the cost of getting them there.

Italian E-Boats would have more success.


17 posted on 10/19/2009 6:53:05 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: tcrlaf
Italian E-Boats would have more success.

Before or after they removed the screen doors?

18 posted on 10/19/2009 6:55:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tcrlaf

initial climb= take off?

In another words, crashed on take-off?


19 posted on 10/19/2009 6:56:53 AM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: tcrlaf

E-Boats.

I’ll look that up.


20 posted on 10/19/2009 6:59:04 AM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: tcrlaf

oh, e-boat

21 posted on 10/19/2009 7:00:40 AM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: GeronL; tcrlaf
Flew into ground at night & DBF.

Did belly flop?
Didn't bounce far?

22 posted on 10/19/2009 7:02:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

19 October 1939-

Herman Goering issued a verbal order to a Dr. Kajetan Muehlmann asking him to undertake the immediate securing of all Polish art treasures.

Kajetan Mühlmann - he was a Staatssekretar in Seyss-Inquart’s government in Austria 1938, and has social and professional connections to Seyss-Inquart, Göring, Heydrich (as undercover agent?) and also to Hitler concerning artistic matters.

He was captured by the U.S. Army in the Austrian Alps on June 13, 1945. Later he was transferred to an American POW camp, where he gets a lot of privileges because of his special talent as painter.

Dr. Muehlmann himself gives evidence of this order in Document 3042, found in the document book last introduced as Exhibit USA 375.

His War Crimes Trial statement, as entered by Col. Story in Georing’s trial:

Kajetan Muehlmann states under oath:

“I have been a member of the N.S.D.A.P. since 1st April, 1938. I was Brigadier General (Oberfuehrer) in the S.S.

I was never an illegal Nazi.

I was the special deputy of the Governor General of Poland, Hans Frank, for the safeguarding of art treasures in the Government General, October, 1939 to September, 1943.

Goering, in his function as chairman of the Reich Defence Council, had commissioned me with this duty.

I confirm that it was the official policy of the Governor General Hans Frank, to take into custody all important art treasures which belonged to Polish public institutions, private collections and the Church. I confirm that the art treasures mentioned were actually confiscated; and it is clear to me that they would not have remained in Poland in case of a German victory, but they would have been used to complement German artistic property.

Signed and sworn to by Dr. Muehlmann.”


23 posted on 10/19/2009 7:18:05 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

intersting account of the sinking in scapa flow. especially the part about using the ships anchor lights to attack. fairly incredible that anchored warchips in time of war would be so illuminated.

guenther prien, the U boat captain, did not survive the war. its believed he was sunk south of iceland, possibly by the Wolverine. good article here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Günther_Prien


24 posted on 10/19/2009 7:27:19 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Ship's Log of HMS Sharpshooter (Halcyon-Class Minesweeper) 19 Oct 1939: 09.00 Embarked officers for passage [from Voltaire] Admiral Sir Reginald Plunket Ernle Drax KCB DSO Vice Admiral R H T Raikes CB, CVO DSO Captain G C Muirhead-Gould DSC RN Commander R F Nichols Proceeded and secured alongside outer jetty, Thurso Bay, Scrabster. Shifted billet and secured alongside Scrabster jetty
25 posted on 10/19/2009 7:30:26 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

October 19, 1939 - Formal annexation of 20,000 sq.mi. of Polish territory taken from Germany by treaty of Versailles announced in Berlin; decree is signed October 8, effective November 1.

(source: The Britannica Archive)


26 posted on 10/19/2009 7:32:31 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
19 October 1939-A RAN (Royal Australian Navy) RATING OF HMAS CANBERRA GUN SIGHTING DURING TRAINING AT SEA.
27 posted on 10/19/2009 7:37:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

October 19, 1939 - The Anglo-French treaty with Turkey, securing Turkish Autonomy is signed in Ankara.


28 posted on 10/19/2009 7:39:57 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: tcrlaf
October 19, 1939 - The Anglo-French treaty with Turkey, securing Turkish Autonomy is signed in Ankara.

Lead story in tomorrow's New York Times.

29 posted on 10/19/2009 7:49:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: tcrlaf

The discouraging thing about this response by Roosevelt was that this was to Einstein’s letter from August 2nd. It took 2 and a half months just for a response from FDR.

The Board that FDR makes reference to was the Advisory Committee on Uranium. They meet for the first time in two days so I’ll save what I have on that till then.


30 posted on 10/19/2009 7:51:09 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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To: abb
In Ankara... An Ango-French-Turkish Treaty of Mutual Assistance is signed.

In Britain... Two German airmen, half the crew of a bomber shot down over the North Sea on Tuesday, drifted ashore in a collapsible rubber boat near Whitby.

These and other stories in tomorrow's edition of The New York Times.

31 posted on 10/19/2009 7:54:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: abb
In Ankara... An Ango-French-Turkish Treaty of Mutual Assistance is signed.

In Britain... Two German airmen, half the crew of a bomber shot down over the North Sea on Tuesday, drifted ashore in a collapsible rubber boat near Whitby.

These and other stories in tomorrow's edition of The New York Times.

32 posted on 10/19/2009 7:54:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

This version of Case Yellow is merely a retread [mostly] of the Schlieffen Plan of 1906; and one for which the British and French were ready.

It was during a briefing on Yellow, I believe in November, that Hitler asked Halder or Brauchitsch, about using the Ardennes. They put him off.

I believe it was a combination of two princial factors, the capture of the plans for the early version of Yellow by the Belgians when a Luftwaffe plane carrying a staff officer with the plans landed in foggy weather; and Manstein’s dinner with Hitler prior to assumption of an infantry Corps command [Halder booted him out as Rundstedt’s C/S for pushing the Schickelsschnitt], that got the ball rolling.


33 posted on 10/19/2009 7:56:57 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: tcrlaf
This ‘migration’ was organized by Himmler,via his new powers as Reichs Commissioner for the Strengthening of Germanness. The principal executive agency was the SS. The USSR was more than pleased to remove a potential flashpoint in their relations with the Germans, and acquire the newly returned Germans’ property in the Baltic.

Those less pleased were the thousands of Poles forcibly removed to the Government General, a move for which little or no provision, planning or organization had been made.

34 posted on 10/19/2009 8:03:55 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Thought you might be a little interested in this.


35 posted on 10/19/2009 8:09:06 AM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: PzLdr

Totally Off-Topic side-note:

It was about this time that my Grandfather was assigned to rebuilding the Railroad bridges in Central Warsaw. He would spend the next year there.


36 posted on 10/19/2009 8:14:09 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: tcrlaf

The Germans resettled from Latvia will provide excellent intelligence for later activities....


37 posted on 10/19/2009 9:17:41 AM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

19 October 1939:

First Flower-Class Corvette HMS Gladiolus laid down.

Destroyer HMS Highlander launched.


38 posted on 10/19/2009 12:17:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

19 )ctober, 1939:

The motion picture “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” premieres at the Radio City Music Hall in New York City. Directed by Frank Capra, this political drama stars James Stewart, Jean Arthur, Claude Rains, Edward Arnold, Thomas Mitchell, Beulah Bondi, Harry Carry; Jack Carson and H.V. Kaltenborn appear in uncredited bit parts.

The plot has young idealist Stewart being appointed a U.S. Senator and fighting corruption in the Senate Chamber. The film is nominated for ten Academy Awards including Best Picture (it loses to “Gone With The Wind”), Best Director, Best Actor (Stewart) and Best Supporting Actor (Carey); it wins an Oscar for Best Writing.

The film is ranked Number 29 on the American Film Institute’s list of the 100 Greatest Movies. (Jack McKillop)


39 posted on 10/19/2009 12:18:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
DAMMIT!!!! Why won't you people READ the Healthcare Bill!
40 posted on 10/19/2009 12:20:02 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: tcrlaf
The motion picture “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” premieres at the Radio City Music Hall in New York City.

Hmmm. 10/19/39 is a Thursday. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Frank Nugent reviews this film for the Friday entertainment page. You know, there is another high profile premier this week. That is "Babes In Arms," the Mickey Rooney-Judy Garland feature directed by Busby Berkeley.

41 posted on 10/19/2009 1:00:25 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
The Netherlands Prepares

Vaals, the Netherlands, Ocgt 18 (AP) -- "Packed into the southeastern corner of the netherlands, just adross the Maas River bridge west of the Roermond and well behind the actual frontier, is a tremendous force of armed, blond giants. If war comes to this country, it will be their job to fight with their backs to the "water line" while engineers loose the shallow flood waters that will make an island of western Holland with its populous cities and the bulk of its army...

Most curious to see the Dutch referred to as "blond giants." Yes, today it's said that Dutch on average grow taller than any others, but that was not the case years ago.

I wonder how these "blond giants" will stand up against Hitler's airborn troops?

42 posted on 10/20/2009 6:23:36 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: tcrlaf
Jack Carson and H.V. Kaltenborn appear in uncredited bit parts.

I didn't see Jack Carson's name in the main credits link on today's movie review thread but Kaltenborn actually is credited as a cast member.

43 posted on 10/20/2009 10:09:06 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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