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Norwegian Wood For The Ages: 'Mummified' Pine Trees Found
The Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) via ScienceDaily.com ^ | Oct. 18, 2009 | staff reporter

Posted on 10/19/2009 2:35:26 PM PDT by Daffynition

ScienceDaily (Oct. 18, 2009) — Norwegian scientists have found “mummified” pine trees, dead for nearly 500 years yet without decomposition.

Norway’s wet climate seems perfect for encouraging organic matter to rot – particularly in Sogndal, located on Norway’s southwestern coastline, in one of the most humid, mild areas of the country. In fact, with an average of 1541 millimetres of rain yearly and relatively mild winters, Sogndal should be an environment where decomposition happens fast. Not so.

“We were gathering samples of dead trees to reconstruct summer temperatures in western Norway, when our dendrochronological dating showed the wood to be much older than expected”, says Terje Thun, an associate professor at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology’s (NTNU) Museum of Natural History and Archaeology. Thun conducted the work with his colleague Helene Løvstrand Svarva.

From a time before the Black Death

“We were astounded to find fresh wood in trees that started to grow in the late 1200s and had died almost 500 years ago, which is much older than we originally expected. Somehow they have kept from decomposing for several centuries in this humid climate”, Thun says. “This is quite extraordinary - I would go as far as to call it sensational.”

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Used in mummification

Resin was one of the ingredients used in Ancient Egypt for mummification, so its conservation abilities have been known for millennia. However, that trees could “self-mummify” in such a humid climate for centuries was new to the NTNU scientists.

“Many of the trunks we dated turned out to have seeded in the early 1200s, and had lived for more than 100 years at the time of the Black Death around 1350”, Thun says.

[snip]

It seems there truly is something good about Norwegian wood.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Outdoors; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; trees

1 posted on 10/19/2009 2:35:26 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition
Ha!
Sogndal = Norwegian for Soggy Town....

btw...she looks neither soggy or mummified!

2 posted on 10/19/2009 2:39:29 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: G Larry
btw...she looks neither soggy or mummified!

The camera needs to come about 60 to 90 degrees forward.

3 posted on 10/19/2009 2:41:41 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Daffynition

Coniferous trees, notably blue spruce and Ponderosa pine, in the Rockies of S. CO, where I used to cut a lot of firewood, seem to decay very slowly.

But that’s a dry climate.

OTOH, aspen trees rot away while they’re still alive.


4 posted on 10/19/2009 2:43:45 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Daffynition

Once, I had a tree, or you could say, a pine mummy.


5 posted on 10/19/2009 2:44:23 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Daffynition
...Terje Thun...

Terry Tune?

6 posted on 10/19/2009 2:45:53 PM PDT by decimon
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7 posted on 10/19/2009 2:53:13 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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And ooh, not guilty!
Norwegian scientists have found "mummified" pine trees, dead for nearly 500 years yet without decomposition.
Thanks Daffynition.
 
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8 posted on 10/19/2009 3:31:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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9 posted on 10/19/2009 3:34:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Daffynition

“that trees could “self-mummify” in humid climates”

This is an example of a CITY BORN LIBTARD JUNK SCIENTIST.

Every country-boy from the forest knows that if trees fall in a very lush environment with just the right soil and drainage, their resin (in especitally pine trees) turns them into the so called “mummies”.

This is a common enough occurance we send our young ones out to find these “mummies” and chop them into small kindling, because they have such a high resin content, they light with a match, burn hot and never go out.

Some places call this “fat wood”. If a tree dies in place (rather than falling), during the summer months, the resin will run to the bottom and preserver the roots and stump area almost 100%. If the tree falls first, then the resin settles to the bottom of the tree and you often get a half-moon shape.

These things can be VERY old - they are almost as hard as rocks - you can dull an axe trying to cut one - if you try a chainsaw, it will be dull after 1-2 minutes. The only way to deal with it is to split it.

I guess next these guys will discover bears shit in the woods.

After, of course, the get a 5M$ grant......


10 posted on 10/19/2009 3:52:13 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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11 posted on 10/19/2009 4:58:43 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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12 posted on 10/19/2009 4:59:59 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: BereanBrain

These trees are around 2 million years old. Not actually fossils, the wood has been preserved - mummified - in clay. They were discovered in the 1970s during quarrying near Avigliano Umbra (Umbria). They were a type of sequoia,and some of them lived for 3000 years (before then surviving the next couple of million!).

13 posted on 10/19/2009 5:03:15 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition
I thought we were out of discovers like this in our world.

Just amazing.

14 posted on 10/19/2009 5:04:49 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Impeach Obama)
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To: Daffynition
Screaming Trees - For Celebrations Past
15 posted on 10/19/2009 5:04:59 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Daffynition

Interesting thread. Calls for a cool tree video ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JoXKpHKgUg
James Taylor - Wichita Lineman


16 posted on 10/19/2009 5:07:48 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Dysart
That was pretty cool. Thanks Dysart.

This is the video I thought you were heading me to.

17 posted on 10/19/2009 5:10:14 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Liberty Valance
Hardly anyone can top James Taylor. Thanks so much.
18 posted on 10/19/2009 5:14:27 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: AGreatPer
Trees amaze me. I am always in awe of them.


19 posted on 10/19/2009 5:16:11 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition

I was deeply moved by your video offering, such that I shall take my leave now...


20 posted on 10/19/2009 5:19:32 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart
Dang it. My leaf. Double pun ungood.
21 posted on 10/19/2009 5:20:55 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Daffynition
I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me... She showed me her room, isn't it good Norwegian wood?

She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere, So I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.

I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine, We talked until two and then she said: "It's time for bed"

She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh. I told her I didn't, and crawled off to sleep in the bath

And when I awoke, I was alone, this bird had flown So I lit a fire, isn't it good Norwegian wood.

The Beatles - Norwegian Wood

22 posted on 10/19/2009 5:32:45 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Dysart
Pick up some chocolate ice cream while you're out, K?


23 posted on 10/19/2009 5:37:56 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: JoeProBono
From wiki:

[edit] Lyrics

McCartney said the final line of the song indicates that the singer burned the home of the girl. As he explained:

Peter Asher [brother of McCartney's then-girlfriend Jane Asher] had just done his room out in wood, and a lot of people were decorating their places in wood. Norwegian wood. It was pine, really, just cheap pine. But it's not as good a title, is it, "Cheap Pine"? It was a little parody, really, on those kind of girls who, when you'd get back to their flat, there would be a lot of Norwegian wood. It was completely imaginary from my point of view, but not from John's. It was based on an affair he had. She made him sleep in the bath and then, finally, in the last verse, I had this idea to set the Norwegian wood on fire as a revenge. She led him on and said, "You'd better sleep in the bath." And in our world, that meant the guy having some sort of revenge, so it meant burning the place down....[citation needed]

After a studio recording of the song (George Martin can be heard saying 'Take four' at the beginning), Lennon can clearly be heard saying 'I showed her!'. This would support McCartney's explanation of the lyrics being revenge-based. This can be heard on 'Beatles Artifacts Disc 2: Ticket to Ride'.

This exchange took place in a press conference in Los Angeles on 24 August 1966:

Reporter: I'd like to direct this question to messrs. Lennon and McCartney. In a recent article, Time magazine put down pop music. And they referred to "Day Tripper" as being about a prostitute...
Paul: Oh yeah.
Reporter: ...and "Norwegian Wood" as being about a lesbian.
Paul: Oh yeah.
Reporter: I just wanted to know what your intent was when you wrote it, and what your feeling is about the Time magazine criticism of the music that is being written today.
Paul: We were just trying to write songs about prostitutes and lesbians, that's all.[3]

24 posted on 10/19/2009 5:44:46 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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25 posted on 10/19/2009 6:07:15 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition

Hey, you took my leaf!


26 posted on 10/19/2009 6:52:48 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: JoeProBono
That's a Triffid for sure.
27 posted on 10/19/2009 7:20:18 PM PDT by blam
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To: decimon

She showed me her room, isn’t it good Norwegian wood?


28 posted on 10/19/2009 8:13:16 PM PDT by Pelham (Obammunism, for that smooth-talking happy -face communist blend.)
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29 posted on 10/19/2009 10:19:16 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

30 posted on 10/20/2009 1:52:59 AM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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