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Signed Certificate of Live Birth for BO

Posted on 10/20/2009 6:54:41 AM PDT by rocco55

I received a signed COLB this AM. It is in a PDF format. I cannot find how to paste it into the post ? I don't now if it's real, but appears to be from a law firm last night at approx. 11:30 PM.

Does anyone know if a PDF file can be posted ?


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; obama; orly
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To: rocco55; IntolerantOfTreason

This “information” (but not the actual pdf) was posted on Dr. Taitz’s web site late last night, Monday 10/19 (as two different emails...one of which I believe was from Jeff Schwilk of the San Diego Minutemen, around 10 pm central time.) However, the emails that were posted are now gone from her site.


141 posted on 10/20/2009 12:35:55 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: MHGinTN

I’m not saying the document is authentic. What I am saying is that the facts in the document appear valid and consistent with the other two African BCs because it lists Kenya as the birthplace.

I’m still not convinced that the African BCs are authentic, either, but the data that they have, including the attending doctor and registrar represent real people performing duties consistent with their actual job titles, and other information regarding the name of the hospital and location of birth are also plausible.


142 posted on 10/20/2009 12:42:20 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: BP2

When comparing the Nordyke COLB and this one there are just so many differences. Like the filed and acceptance date is done with a rubber stamp on the Nordyke’s and a type writer for the latest COLB. The Nordyke copy has the statement at the bottom when the copies were made, probably for school admissions and none of that on the latest COLB. The time of birth format is different as well. Then you have the U.S.A. as birth place instead of Honolulu Hawaii on the Nordyke one.


143 posted on 10/20/2009 12:43:59 PM PDT by GregNH ("Dc Rally from the Ground" by me http://gwgjlm.blogspot.com/2009/09/dc-rally-from-ground.html)
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To: Fractal Trader; Seizethecarp
Actually, the data in the document is pretty interesting. First, it says that it as signed by the grandma, Madelyn Dunham and second, it says that she was “reporting” the birth, which could be consistent with the baby being born elsewhere, but the birth certificate being “reported”.

Yes, the birth certificate falls in line with the laws of Hawaii as I understand them.

You'll notice in line 23, it says "Evidence of Delayed filing or Alteration"

And the "alteration(s)" are "HRS 338-17.8" and "per Grandmother" could have come later as the alterations. Notice that the alterations do not line up as in intentional misaligned typed to indicate the other alteration(s) came at a later date . So it's very conceivable that additions could have come later.

144 posted on 10/20/2009 12:45:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Canadian Outrage
"BP2 is NO troll!!"

Then he should stop trolling.

145 posted on 10/20/2009 12:46:01 PM PDT by mlo
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To: indylindy

You trolls must be very bored....either that or worried that the truth will eventually be made known !

Without Soros’ billions behind them, Nazi Pelosi and your Obamessiah would be toast !


146 posted on 10/20/2009 12:46:54 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: GregNH

The Nordykes are U.S. citizen, Barry Soetoro NOT, could they use different forms on citizens and non-citizens???


147 posted on 10/20/2009 12:53:21 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Caesar Soze
Is it normal to list continents on birth certificates? I mean, it's not like Kenya of Africa might be confused with Kenya of Antarctica.

Well, yes, but see, if he was born in Antarctica, he's not eligible.

148 posted on 10/20/2009 12:56:46 PM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

Now how can you claim that, knowing the pirate Roberts swore him in, twice!?


149 posted on 10/20/2009 12:58:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: mlo

With fish like you flopping about at FR, why not troll a while?


150 posted on 10/20/2009 1:00:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: BIGLOOK

BTTT


151 posted on 10/20/2009 1:00:13 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: danamco

Both forms have the same fields.


152 posted on 10/20/2009 1:03:58 PM PDT by GregNH ("Dc Rally from the Ground" by me http://gwgjlm.blogspot.com/2009/09/dc-rally-from-ground.html)
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To: GregNH

10,580-152=10,428 more to go....


153 posted on 10/20/2009 1:06:28 PM PDT by GregNH ("Dc Rally from the Ground" by me http://gwgjlm.blogspot.com/2009/09/dc-rally-from-ground.html)
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To: mlo; BP2

BP2 is not trolling.


154 posted on 10/20/2009 1:27:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: MHGinTN
"This is an altered exhibit. Look at the pre-printed portion of field 17b ... that’s right, it is partially erased/blacked out, then the ‘spreckle’ pattern applied over it."

It is hard to know at which point the 'spreckle' pattern was applied. Was it on the original or is it a result of the copying process?

White-out tape with a straight edge could have been used to cover the original typing in 17b and the edge could have covered the bottom of the field label, or there could have been a defect in the printing layout of the original and the bottom of all field 17b field names could have been hidden. They didn’t have laser printing back then.

I do note that the boxes for “parent” and “MD” appear clear of ‘spreckles’ and may have been whited out to cover over an x. The HI registry clerk might have incorrectly x’d these boxes from force of habit as the first signature would nearly always be “parent” and the next signature would be “MD”.

155 posted on 10/20/2009 1:28:52 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: MHGinTN
Now how can you claim that, knowing the pirate Roberts swore him in, twice!?

Oops -- sorry I forgot the /sarc tag in that post, forgetting that birthers have no sense of humor.

Flame away!

156 posted on 10/20/2009 1:51:23 PM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Beckwith

Could you please read posts 139, 142, and 144 and update The Obama Files? I think that everyone jumped on the “fake” bandwagon because they thought it contradicted with what we know from the other “fake” African BCs.

That is incorrect. Instead, reading all three documents for CONTENT, you will find that they are in complete accord with one another. For example, the latest BC indicates a Kenyan birth.

Post 144 explains why the latest document, which is listed as “altered” , could easily fit in with what we know about Hawaiian laws and procedures. Some times I think we are too willing to call a document fake if it disagrees with our world view. Few of us are truly forensic experts to make such decisions, especially if the document may have gone. through several stages of processing such as being photographed, microfilmed and scanned.

I know that BHO’s minions are out there actively producing fakes and purging information that is not consistent with his “official” biography. However, that doesn’t mean we should dismiss with anything which we fear has been tampered. We should view the validity of a document being valid on a scale of 1 to 100. I don’t think I would put 100 on any document we have yet seen. I would put the Australian BC about a 10. Never completely dismiss a document. Always examine with an open mind.


157 posted on 10/20/2009 1:53:58 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: missnry

Wonder what’s up with the ‘1’ following Honolulu on line 6a. It isn’t even in line with the city, but a bit below it.


158 posted on 10/20/2009 2:26:02 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: Fractal Trader; Beckwith

Interestingly, Attorney Apuzzo doesn’t have a post (or comment) on this “newly” revealed doc on his blog...yet.


159 posted on 10/20/2009 2:33:32 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: MHGinTN

Yeah, I know, I can’t get over this calling good freepers trolls because they have an opposite view. CO


160 posted on 10/20/2009 2:36:35 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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