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Signed Certificate of Live Birth for BO

Posted on 10/20/2009 6:54:41 AM PDT by rocco55

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To: BIGLOOK

Fake, fake fake. You can see where they use white out and re-did it. That’s why some of the lines are missing in certain areas.


201 posted on 10/20/2009 8:53:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Good eyes.


202 posted on 10/20/2009 8:57:07 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Point taken. Also keep in mind the Nordyke certificate is a copy of the original. The copy was issued several years later. I am still regarding all as fake for one reason. If you got your hands on a real one, would you post it on the itnernet? Anyone that does, needs to look up the word discreet and discretion in the dictionary. There is no way I would mention a word on FR or anywhere else. I would make sure it was in the right hands and I have no intention of saying whose hands those are.


203 posted on 10/20/2009 9:05:36 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: El Gato

That one, I’m not sure about. However, after all this time, you would think someone would have come up with a BC from that same place, same year, to compare it with.


204 posted on 10/20/2009 9:10:38 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Red Steel

hmmmm


205 posted on 10/20/2009 9:11:49 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: BIGLOOK

Here’s another image of an unsubstantiated document that could have been found in a bottle on the beach for all we know
___________________________
Much more likely to have been created by:

Axelrod, Jarrett, Emanuel, DUmmies or KosKraps


206 posted on 10/20/2009 9:15:46 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: tutstar
Have you seen this one from Africa?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105764

I think the document you posted complements the "Lucas Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate", which is linked below. The hospitals (CPGH) and the birthdates (August 4, 1961) on the two documents match. Mr. Smith affirmed on an affidavit presented to federal Judge David O. Carter, who is hearing the case in Santa Ana, CA, that he personally obtained the the BC at the CPGH in February 2009.

I have been closely following Lucas Smith and the postings on his InspectorSmith YouTube channel since its inception several months ago. I believe he has submitted to the court a document that is very likely authentic and which he definitely believes to be authentic. Unfortunately, officals in Kenya (probably under conditions of extreme duress) apparently are not willing to authenticate the document.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/LucasSmith03.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et2nZuJATaw

It is my understanding that the date (17 February 1964) on which the Deputy Registrar signed the document you posted, is consistent with the time Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, was seeking a divorce from Barack Obama Sr. It is theorized that she needed to obtain the Obama Jr. BC at this time in order to comply with the customary custody arrangements involved with divorce cases.

207 posted on 10/21/2009 6:02:19 AM PDT by WhizCodger (Katie - Bar the door, then text my reply of "F U" to the NWO!)
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To: Genoa

OMG! A perfect example of someone who is a complete NOVICE with Photoshop.


208 posted on 10/21/2009 8:32:43 AM PDT by alexandria ("If this be treason, make the most of it!" Patrick Henry)
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To: rocco55

BTTT


209 posted on 10/26/2009 6:39:16 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Fred Nerks
I’m wondering what the middle initial may stand for - could it be ‘Ericson’?

Emerson...

His parents:
William Emerson Blaine
Birth: 24 Jun 1902 - Wilkinsburg, PA
Death: 18 Jun 1987 - Columbus, OH
Marriage: 15 Apr 1923 - Louisville, KY
Spouse: Sarah Kathryn Skillman
Birth: 8 NOV 1905 in Columbus OH

Spinning: A Story of Imagination
210 posted on 12/12/2009 5:16:01 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Oh boy, I had forgotten all about that one...looks like I was way off track, wouldn’t you say?


211 posted on 12/12/2009 5:25:59 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: WhizCodger; LucyT; Fred Nerks
"The reason they think it is a fraud is because the Hawaiian statute cited in the lower right corner as the version with the ".8" amendment on the end, i.e., 338.17.8 did not exist in 1961. It was added in 1982. That jumped out at them right away. 338.17.8 did not apply to Obama in 1961 because it did not exist in the law books yet. But the registration of out of state children was permitted in 1961 under older laws such as the one in 1911 and another in 1955. Since this document cites 338.17.8 it cannot be the initial or original birth registration document. The post provides additional info."

Probably pretty early to make a judgment about this document.

Lots of times, states have statutes with a sub-number like this; repeal it; later adopt something else with the earlier number. In order to determine what the merits of this argument are, you need to look carefully at the state legislative history documents for the statute.

See what the statute said in 1961.

Note also that the statute reference is not part of the printed form. It isn't typed on the same line as the remainder of the filing note.

Note also that the first number 1 typed on line 33 has a broken right foot; the number 1 on line 33 in the statute citation is not broken which suggests that the statutory reference was typed later.

Another possible explanation for this situation is that the file was pulled at some later date; Hawaii Department of Public Health was looking for some legal authority on which to issue a COLB so they took this and added the statutory citation so they could announce that they had a legal basis for issue of a COLB.

The other issues that have been raised about this document appear to have been resolved.

212 posted on 05/16/2010 3:25:10 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: David; InspectorSmith; Seizethecarp
Interesting! Thanks David for your comments regarding the Blaine COLB!

"Ping" to InspectorSmith and Seizethecarp

213 posted on 05/23/2010 3:00:43 PM PDT by WhizCodger (Katie - Bar the door, then text my reply of "F U" to the NWO!)
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To: WhizCodger; David; InspectorSmith
Thanks for the ping.

Good catch by David spotting the “broken foot” on the one typewriter.

The unevenness of the last line indicates it was typed at a minimum using multiple insertions of the form. These insertions could easily have been separated in time with one insertion in 1961 and the other after the statute that is referenced was passed.

I find it to be significant that so far no one has claimed to have “punked birthers” with this document. Someone has the original and they might have a lot of leverage over Obama or they might have had an “accident” among other possibilities.

214 posted on 05/23/2010 4:39:03 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: WhizCodger

Thank you for the update WhizCodger!


215 posted on 05/23/2010 9:34:52 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
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To: Seizethecarp

Thanks for the update Seizethecarp!


216 posted on 05/23/2010 9:35:21 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
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To: rocco55

Is Twilightzone.net your ISP?


217 posted on 05/23/2010 9:40:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: InspectorSmith
You are most welcome!

Obama’s protection is getting very shaky, as the SS# fraud shows.

Take care and best of luck in all of your efforts.

218 posted on 05/23/2010 9:59:18 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: InspectorSmith

welcome back Lucas,
don’t hesitate to contact me should you need assistance in retrieving your lost Birth Certificate. I am sure this time you will do much better.
You now have the chance to repair all your previous errors such as the mispelled name and the wrong chief administrator.
How are the sales of the shoplifted copies of Going Rogue doing ?
Any news about climate conditions and veggies in Kenya ?
Have you found out if plantains grow there ?
What about the New Zealand sushi ? Tried it ?
I believe you must have another copy of your original in a drawer in Santo Domingo. Check it out when there ? (if they still let you in)
Hey, idea ! Why don’t you auction your suitcase wiht the lost document on E-bay ? No, no, why don’t you sell tickets for the suitcase ? something like: Ticket to buy suitcase containing Luycas Smith memorabilia and Barack Obama birth certificate ?


219 posted on 05/24/2010 9:08:11 AM PDT by Mik Taerg
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To: rocco55

Re: - “Signed Certificate of Live Birth for BO”

rocco, do you still have this PDF file — for the alleged Kenyan BC? ...

Reportedly the file is named: Cert.pdf

I need a copy of your original PDF file — can you please post a link?

( I’ve searched online, and there’s only poor-resolution JPG files... the original PDF cannot be found.)

Please, upload the PDF file to -

http://www.4shared.com/ ... or - https://rapidshare.com/ ...etc.

...

Also, this ‘Kenyan BC’ is in the news again, TODAY — May 08, 2011:

Obama birth certificate linked to ‘Kenya forgery’?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=295109

The birth certificate debate – it’s not over

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=296293


220 posted on 05/08/2011 7:53:25 PM PDT by dreavers (researcher)
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To: David

Ha! Those nutty birthers are going to crack this case yet! The truth will prevail. He thinks people stopped digging because he put out that fraudulent piece of paper and happened to be sitting in the WH when the SEALS took out OBL. He thinks it’s all going to go away. He put out the long form BC himself. If it’s proven to be fake, there’s no way out.


221 posted on 05/08/2011 7:59:38 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Brown Deer

The link was scrubbed.


222 posted on 05/08/2011 8:11:32 PM PDT by jersey117
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