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Crew removed from Oct. 31 game
ESPN ^ | 10-21-09

Posted on 10/21/2009 4:27:55 PM PDT by Dysart

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- The Southeastern Conference has suspended officials from last weekend's Arkansas-Florida game after the crew was involved in its second controversial call of the year.

Referee Marc Curles' crew called a personal foul on Arkansas defensive lineman Malcolm Sheppard in the fourth quarter as the Gators were rallying for a 23-20 victory. The league said there was no video evidence to support the call.

The same group of officials called the LSU-Georgia game earlier this month, which included a late unsportsmanlike conduct penalty the league said shouldn't have been called.

"A series of calls that have occurred during the last several weeks have not been to the standard that we expect from our officiating crews," SEC commissioner Mike Slive said Wednesday. "I believe our officiating program is the best in the country. However, there are times when these actions must be taken."

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A forfeit is also in order. The Hogs was robbed.

Discuss.

1 posted on 10/21/2009 4:27:56 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart
Video evidence.

Arkansas gets screwed by SEC referees

2 posted on 10/21/2009 4:30:01 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

Go Gators!!


3 posted on 10/21/2009 4:31:17 PM PDT by robert561
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To: robert561

You’re an SEC Referee?


4 posted on 10/21/2009 4:31:59 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

All in an average SEC weekend. Go Gators!


5 posted on 10/21/2009 4:32:49 PM PDT by fuente
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To: Dysart

bttt


6 posted on 10/21/2009 4:33:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Dysart

On the take?


8 posted on 10/21/2009 4:35:11 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Dysart
Suspensions well deserved.
9 posted on 10/21/2009 4:36:07 PM PDT by Shqipo (A whiff of blowback is in the air.)
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To: Dysart

Hardly, all UAR had to do was then stop UF. UF was not in the endzone. And after UF tied the game UAR might have scored themselves. But alas they failed and UF marched the ball on the for a game winning field goal.

UAR that day was close to UF, but alas for you, they were not the equal to UF or better.


10 posted on 10/21/2009 4:36:51 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Dysart

I thought this might be about last nights Ump crew in Anaheim. Both teams were rolling their eyes. Didn’t change the outcome, but it was an incredibly poor showing by the Umpire crew.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 4:38:41 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Dysart

No doubt about it. They was robbed twice. It should have been Arkansas 20 Florida 13 final score. By the way, the SEC is by far the best conference in college football.


12 posted on 10/21/2009 4:38:41 PM PDT by skimask
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To: GOP_Raider

PING!!


13 posted on 10/21/2009 4:38:56 PM PDT by Roccus (My anger is manufactured.......................................in the WHITE HOUSE and CONGRESS!!)
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To: JLS

Well, I doubt anyone would argue that this UA team is the equal of Florida on paper, but on this day they played well enough win, and it would have been appropriate to let the players sort out the better team on that particular Saturday, not these bonehead zebras.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 4:42:00 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

Amen! Two bad calls in a row. I think it cost us the game.

parsy, the razorback


15 posted on 10/21/2009 4:42:08 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Shqipo

The suspension were deserved for the awful call that turned the end of the UGa v. LSU game. Last week’s call was just an excuse.

On that call the offical made a judgement that the UF guy pulled up with the whistle and the UAR guy could have. I pretty much agree the UF guy pulled up at the last second which is why he ended up on his butt. Whether the UAR guy could have pulled up to or not is tough to know. They have told officals the last couple of years to clean up the hitting after the whistle. So the official threw the flag.

I prefer they not throw any of these flags particularly late in close games. Football is a contact sport. You better be ready to be hit anytime you are within the white lines and just after you have crossed them too in my mind. But if you tell officials to clean up late hits, you must expect calls like this.


16 posted on 10/21/2009 4:42:10 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Dysart
The Southeastern Conference has suspended officials from last weekend's Arkansas-Florida game
I think they were hired to umpire last night's Yankees / Angels game.

17 posted on 10/21/2009 4:42:14 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Dysart

Too bad the NFL doesn’t suspend those idiot referees last Sunday for that totally idiotic 1st down call when the ball was at least 1 or 2 fists behind the first-down marker. Insane! Even the announcers (who definitely were not pro-Browns) couldn’t believe they gave the Steelers a 1st down.

‘Bout time the referees of most sports be made to pay for stupid, idiotic calls.


18 posted on 10/21/2009 4:42:52 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: ilgipper
Agreed....pretty poor job in such a crucial series.

At least the 3rd.base ump. admitted he had erred over the double play ball that should have got both Posada and Swisher.

19 posted on 10/21/2009 4:44:57 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Dysart
It was not bad one call, but three bad calls during Florida's final two drives. Everyone has seen games where one bad call seemed to decide the outcome late in a game, but this game had THREE bad calls in Florida's favor in final six to eight minutes.

This crew well deserved to be removed from officiating, for good.

And any Florida fans or otherwise still pretending that the officiating wasn't grossly unfair to Arkansas, well, I expect you've got other problems of acknowledging reality other than in sports competitions.

20 posted on 10/21/2009 4:47:09 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Dysart

Follow the money.


21 posted on 10/21/2009 4:48:10 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Dysart

Hah, have they seen the officiating at the baseball playoffs.

Something is seriously wrong with the refs and umps.

Stating the obvious, I know.


22 posted on 10/21/2009 4:49:24 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: fuente

Floriduh is going to get Danhandled by The Mississippi State University this weekend.


23 posted on 10/21/2009 4:51:06 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg)
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To: Will88

The officiating was very one-sided in this game, no question. The final box score shows 10 penalties for 92 yards against Arkansas while Florida was only flagged three times for 16 yards. Considering that it wound up being a 3 point game, those calls you mentioned most definitely influenced the outcome the game and helped Florida win. It was a shameful display and I say that as someone who wanted Florida to win the game. Kudos to the SEC for calling this crew out and putting the rest of their officiating crews on notice.


24 posted on 10/21/2009 4:54:35 PM PDT by zebrahead
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To: JLS

“UAR that day was close to UF, but alas for you, they were not the equal to UF or better.”

Your assessment is laughable and defies credibility.

Without question, UAR was the better team on the field.

Without question, those were two HORRIBLE calls. Practically criminal.

Justice would see to it that those officials NEVER officiated any more than a Pop Warner game after that.

And I love Tim Tebow.


25 posted on 10/21/2009 4:57:33 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Dysart

Here is the third bad call, a non-call of offensive pass interference. The Arkansas player was in position to intercept Tebow’s pass, but the Florida receiver clearly pushed him in the back and knocked him off balance to prevent the interception that would have killed Florida’s chances to win. Penalty should have moved Florida back 10 or 15 yards, or whatever that penalty is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWAmTFB_StQ&feature=related

Florida did not deserve that victory.


26 posted on 10/21/2009 5:13:35 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Eccl 10:2

Sorry to hear that you were not able to watch the game last Saturday.


27 posted on 10/21/2009 5:14:44 PM PDT by JLS
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To: MuttTheHoople

Oh! I Hope so! GO STATE!


28 posted on 10/21/2009 5:24:53 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JLS

“Sorry to hear that you were not able to watch the game last Saturday.”

Sorry you are clueless about being truthful or objective.

Might I suggest you sign up at the following:

www.democraticunderground.com

You’d fit right in.


29 posted on 10/21/2009 5:39:39 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Sorry but I don’t need to go to your home website that you posted. I can understand however how a site that appeals to the delusional is attractive to someone who thinks one call not on the last play changes the outcome of a football game.

BTW on the first play, I can see the DB run his shoulder into the chest of the WR in the first clip. It was a defensive pass interference that might have been called or might not have been called, but it was hardly an outrageous call. If you actually watched football games or knew anything about the sport and its rules, you would be more circumspect.


30 posted on 10/21/2009 5:49:43 PM PDT by JLS (how)
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To: fuente

CHOMP!!!


31 posted on 10/21/2009 6:19:50 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: JLS

“A series of calls that have occurred during the last several weeks have not been to the standard that we expect from our officiating crews,” SEC commissioner Mike Slive said Wednesday. “I believe our officiating program is the best in the country. However, there are times when these actions must be taken.”

I guess reading comprehension isn’t required to be a UF fan. Sorry. My bad.


32 posted on 10/21/2009 8:59:15 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Eccl 10:2

As I said in my first post, that call was the excuse, but the reason was the truly awful call at the end of UGa v. LSU. Back to Dim underground with you now.


33 posted on 10/21/2009 11:08:49 PM PDT by JLS (how)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...

This ping will be graphic-free as I am preparing to post this week’s live thread in a few hours.


34 posted on 10/21/2009 11:40:13 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (You can now check out GOP_Raider on Twitter at twitter.com/RaiderUte)
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To: JLS; Eccl 10:2
Sorry to hear that you were not able to watch the game last Saturday.

I did see those two calls on TV. The first was very, very marginal and should have been a no-call. The second was utterly bogus. Coming back to back as they did, when Florida was making its first significant drive of the afternoon, stunk to high heaven.

And I don't have dog in this hunt, I wasn't rooting for either team.

35 posted on 10/22/2009 3:51:28 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Dysart

Those were VERY important games for Florida. Investigate the crap out of these officials!


36 posted on 10/22/2009 4:10:47 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Dysart

As a long time SEC football watcher and grad of an SEC school, I can honestly say that SEC football officiating has been, for YEARS, the absolute worst in all of organized sports.


37 posted on 10/22/2009 4:17:33 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Dysart
A forfeit is also in order. The Hogs was robbed.

Speaking of forfits, let's spare a moment to pity poor Delaware State University which became the only modern college team that I'm aware of to lose two games in a single day. When the school administration agreed to schedule their inevitable 63-6 drubbing at the hands of the Wolverines - and the $550,000 payout that went with it - they had overlooked the fact that they were already scheduled to play North Carolina A&T that same weekend. The game could not be rescheduled so in addition to their loss to Michigan they forfeited the game to NCA&T. Two losses, one day.

38 posted on 10/22/2009 4:22:31 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Dysart

Unless you can prove FLA was in on it then you cant take the ‘win’ from them.


39 posted on 10/22/2009 6:22:17 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: oh8eleven

Don’t know about you, but a blind man told me that’s a double play!!

Horrible, absolutely horrible!!!


40 posted on 10/22/2009 6:49:54 AM PDT by cleveland gop
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To: N3WBI3

Come now, I not always literal. Sometimes I throw things out like that for my own amusement, and it ruins my fun to append “/s” tags.


41 posted on 10/22/2009 6:51:55 AM PDT by Dysart
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To: dirtboy

Had you seen the game you would have known UF fumbled four times, three in the redzone. That sort of flies in the face of your conjecture that UF had no significant drives that day, before the game tying drive.

UF moved the ball pretty much at will against UAR. UF punted 3 times while UAR punted 7 times. So I think UF fans were not worried about moving the ball that drive, but rather holding on to the ball in the redzone.

Basically this whole thread is another case of loser crying and winners for the most part moving on.


42 posted on 10/22/2009 7:30:18 AM PDT by JLS (how)
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To: JLS
Had you seen the game

I saw most of the game. And UF sucked. My point stands - the drive on which they tied the game was made possible by the two penalties - that is what made it a significant drive - they actually scored a touchdown.

And like I said, I don't have a dog in this hunt. But I know biased refs when I see them.

43 posted on 10/22/2009 7:37:18 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Dysart

My husband told me about this last night and I immediately remembered some of you on the thread discussing the officiating. Like this helps AFTER a game is over.


44 posted on 10/22/2009 8:01:01 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Blankety blankety blank)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Poor Delaware but that story is funny!


45 posted on 10/22/2009 8:04:41 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Blankety blankety blank)
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To: Dysart

Yep, the hawgs were robbed and jobbed.


46 posted on 10/22/2009 8:09:48 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: dirtboy

Sure you don’t have dog int his hunt. Ha!


47 posted on 10/22/2009 8:21:33 AM PDT by JLS (how)
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To: JLS
Sure you don’t have dog int his hunt. Ha!

I don't. I live in PA and went to college in OK - at Ok State. I really could care less about the SEC. But I know crappy, game-changing calls when I see them. You are just desperate to explain them away - you certainly seem to have a dog in this hunt.

48 posted on 10/22/2009 8:23:43 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I am not desperate to explain anything. UF won. I could just move on and not care. But I have seen the officiating for a couple of years around the country and:

1. Officials have been told to clean up the late hits against other players than the ball carrier. So as I tried to explain week end and week out official call late hits away from the play that are borderline and hurt the game.

2. Every team that every loses a tough game can complain about some pass interference call or no call. Could the one on the clip have not been called, sure. Did they DB actually contact the WRs and keep him away from the ball sure.

The best argument UAR fans have is not even shown on those clips and it was a noncall of a offensive pass interference on the game winning drive. But the UF guy came from the side not through the UAR guy and the UF kicker had already hit a 51 yarder against them, so it is not like UF would not have won anyway.

And that really is the point. The calls were made for a reason. The suspension was not for the calls made in the UF game, but rather cummulative. UF would have won the game anyway. However LSU very likely would have lost to UGa without a bad call.

Really this suspension is an implicit warning to all SEC officials. This suspension says, that while we want you to clean up excess endzone celebrations, hitting after the whistles, etc DON’T MAKE SUCH CALLS LATE IN GAMES WHEN YOU MIGHT DECIDE THE OUTCOME. And of course under the law of unintended consequences, the next time this crew officiates your games, you better scratch and claw and fight and do anything late in the game because they will swallow their whistles now.


49 posted on 10/22/2009 8:36:25 AM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS
Really this suspension is an implicit warning to all SEC officials. This suspension says, that while we want you to clean up excess endzone celebrations, hitting after the whistles, etc DON’T MAKE SUCH CALLS LATE IN GAMES WHEN YOU MIGHT DECIDE THE OUTCOME.

Sorry, it was a very, very bad call, no matter how hard you try to spin it. And, given that Florida dropped to #2 in the AP poll, others through Florida didn't play so hot, either.

50 posted on 10/22/2009 8:39:52 AM PDT by dirtboy
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