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Selective Service was unknown to me
Jeremiah1

Posted on 10/22/2009 9:43:13 AM PDT by Jeremiah1

When I found out about the selective service registration I was devastated. I am 32 yrs. old, have a wife and three children and am struggling to make dinner much less a future. I was recently layed off for the second time in 1 yr. Going back to the unemployment office was something I dreaded. I heard that President Obama made it possible to recieve unemployment benefits while attending school to change your career!! Fantastic, I thought. After alot of thought and planning my wife and I decided this was best for our family. I went to my local college, filled out all the forms and registered. I paid the non refundable fees which left us with 60.00 to our names thinking, it will be alright. I was told to fill out an FAFSA application online to pay for the schooling, great because there is no way I could afford the schooling to become an electrical engineer. I fill it all out and am told my schooling is covered %100. Things were finally looking up until I was told that there was a problem with my application processing. I was told that I never registered for the selective service. I had never heard of the selective service before that email. I called the number in the email for the selective service. They explained this is the law and by the time your 18 and blah blah blah. No one told me, not school, not friends, not family!!! No one!!! I was told , Sir, I'm sure someone told you to go to the post office and fill out the card. No, no one did. Why wouldn't I have done it I asked. See, for me the military wasn't an option. I wanted to join the military while still in high school. My best friend entered the delayed entry program for the Marine Corps, I wanted to go Navy. All my mother had to do was sign the paperwork but she wouldn't , she said No. There was nothing the recruiter could do. I had just turned 16 yrs. old at that time. I was put out of the house that year for a multitude of reasons both my wrongs and my mothers. I was on the streets and bounced from friends houses, to the woods and then finally Jail. I turned 18 yrs. old in jail. As soon as I got out of jail I went to my local recruiters office to enlist only to find that I must first complete my 5 yrs of probation. Meanwhile it is discovered that I have bipolarism. The military wouldn't have taken me anyway. From age 17 to 26 was spent either in jail or on the street waiting for jail. I didn't have any real family or friends or any kind of hope. People didn't bother to lend a hand much less inform me of some post card. The worst part about this is that at 32 years old it is hard for me to find work even though I earned 2 diplomas in prison. I commited my last crime over 12 years ago. I now have a family of 5 that all depend on me through God and I can't return to school and become a more productive member of society like I did while incarcerated. All because of a secret post card. What may be common knowledge to some isn't so common to others. I think G.I. Joe said it best with, "And knowing is half the battle." They could've put the selective service requirements in the credits, I would've known, would be starting school in a few weeks and wouldn't be thinking of becoming a bigger criminal than I ever was before. See now I feel like I don't belong, I have never belonged and no matter what I do I get knocked down, it makes you want to knock back. Then I think of those other 4 innocent family members of mine. I just don't know what to do at this point. I will lose my home and everything I worked for to provide these 3 children the life I never had and my own government is helping that happen. To boot, now they accept felons in the service and it still doesn't help me. Isn't the service a federal job? How many enlisted felons serving in Iraq never filed a selective service registration? My grandfather, who is a WWII Veteran said with tears, "Jer, this isn't the same country I fought for and watched so much sacrificed for."


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1 posted on 10/22/2009 9:43:13 AM PDT by Jeremiah1
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To: Jeremiah1; darkangel82; 50mm; hiredhand; darkwing104; Old Sarge; paulycy

Paragraphs are your friend, newbie.

SNIFF


2 posted on 10/22/2009 9:43:52 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Jeremiah1

IBTZ!


3 posted on 10/22/2009 9:44:01 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Jeremiah1

Paragraphs are also unkown to you.


4 posted on 10/22/2009 9:44:30 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Jeremiah1

IBTZ


5 posted on 10/22/2009 9:44:45 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (You can now check out GOP_Raider on Twitter at twitter.com/RaiderUte)
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To: Jeremiah1; darkangel82; 50mm; hiredhand; darkwing104; Old Sarge; paulycy
Meanwhile it is discovered that I have bipolarism.

And now it will be discovered that you are a follower of ZOTunism!

ZOT!!!

6 posted on 10/22/2009 9:45:19 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Jeremiah1
My grandfather, who is a WWII Veteran said with tears, "Jer, this isn't the same country I fought for and watched so much sacrificed for."

He's right, they had a much better command of the written word.

7 posted on 10/22/2009 9:45:32 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Jeremiah1

Try ACORN, I hear that they are hiring and from your life story, you are certainly qualified. I don’t think that the Electrical Engineer thing would have worked out anyway.


8 posted on 10/22/2009 9:47:11 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Jeremiah1

Joined 10-22-09. Take with a grain of salt.


9 posted on 10/22/2009 9:47:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Constitution Day; martin_fierro; dighton; Petronski; Travis T. OJustice

Today’s installment of “It sucks to be you.”


10 posted on 10/22/2009 9:47:17 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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Oh, boy!! We haven’t had a good Troll Roast in a long time!!


11 posted on 10/22/2009 9:47:38 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Jeremiah1

Welcome to FR, joined today? And then posted this drivel? Not very informed, are we?


12 posted on 10/22/2009 9:47:38 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Petronski

I think this is axelbookmite’s first life... perhaps he was right.


13 posted on 10/22/2009 9:48:33 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Jeremiah1

Jeremiah1
Since Oct 22, 2009

view home page, enter name:

14 posted on 10/22/2009 9:49:10 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Jeremiah1
I commited my last crime over 12 years ago.

Shoulda stopped before your FIRST crime.

15 posted on 10/22/2009 9:49:39 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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To: Jeremiah1

Are you President Obama? He didn’t register with Selective Services either. And his grandfather served in WWII (possibly with the Soviet army, I’m not sure — but I do recall that he helped liberate Auschwitz).


16 posted on 10/22/2009 9:49:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Seriously! I call BS on this. How can you not know about Selective Service?

(same way that paragraphs seem to be foreign to this person, I reckon)


17 posted on 10/22/2009 9:49:41 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Jeremiah1

Where can I send you money?


18 posted on 10/22/2009 9:50:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Jeremiah1

To be fair, I wasn’t told by anyone at school or home to do so. I saw a sign in the local post office describing it while I was an earlier teen. Even that was somewhat coincidental, as our family never came into town to get mail, as we lived in the country.

Strangely, there is no entity I’m aware of that is required to assure this information to each young male.

That said, you might be able to contact 0bama and see how he got his Selective Service post card accepted just prior to the election.


19 posted on 10/22/2009 9:50:24 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (There is no "gray area" on issues. See things from both sides, but choose the right side.)
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To: Jeremiah1

You have 2 degrees, and you want to change careers? I understand you may wish to become an Electrical Engineer, but there has to be something you can do with the degrees you already have.

If your failure to register with SS is preventing you from returning to school, you will just have to go a different way.

I know things can seem dark, but the important thing is that you and that family of yours are together, everything else is icing. If you lose your home, it stinks, it may not seem fair, but that doesn’t change anything. Your family is not defined by a house, its defined by the people in it, as long as you are together, you will be ok.

Good luck to you, focus on what you need to do for your family since the primary plan didn’t work out, I am sure you’ll do fine as long as you don’t give up.


20 posted on 10/22/2009 9:50:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Jeremiah1

I have to wonder if this isn’t a trial balloon for Obama forging his?


21 posted on 10/22/2009 9:51:11 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Jeremiah1; Allegra

22 posted on 10/22/2009 9:51:20 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: SlowBoat407

If this guy is seriously trying to improve his life, bashing him for past mistakes serves no useful purpose, for you or him.


23 posted on 10/22/2009 9:51:32 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Jeremiah1

Why don’t you ask Obama for help? He seems to have had the same problem and apparently found a workaround.


24 posted on 10/22/2009 9:52:01 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Jeremiah1

It is pretty well publicized so you would have a tough time making “I didn’t know” stick. If you really want to make a name for yourself, claim sex discrimination since only males must register and only males face the penalty. Let’s give the ERA another try.


25 posted on 10/22/2009 9:52:56 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Democrats scare me, the Republicans anger me." RJL)
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To: Danae
I have to wonder if this isn’t a trial balloon for Obama forging his?

My thought exactly.

26 posted on 10/22/2009 9:53:08 AM PDT by carolinablonde ("The Constitution protects all of us, not just those on the left." - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: HamiltonJay

I kinda agree. I concede this could be a BS post, but it sounds real. Pity the guy decided to post this on a no-holds-barred political forum, though — he’s about to get a new oriface.


27 posted on 10/22/2009 9:53:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I kinda agree. I concede this could be a BS post, but it sounds real. Pity the guy decided to post this on a no-holds-barred political forum, though — he’s about to get a new oriface.


28 posted on 10/22/2009 9:53:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Constitution Day; Jeremiah1

Yeah - agree. You’d have to have your head stuck in the sand to NOT know about Selective Service.

Sorry Jeremiah, but I can’t sympathize.


29 posted on 10/22/2009 9:54:00 AM PDT by bolobaby
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Quit whining, and make your own way in the world, dude. Why the hell should I have to pay the tuition, etc. for a convicted felon who did not even bother to fill out his Selective Service registration because he was probably too stoned to comprehend it.

You say that you have your act together and have a 5 person family depending on you. Good. Ruck up and be a man. Quit complaining like a wussy and go get a job like the rest of us.


30 posted on 10/22/2009 9:54:04 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Jeremiah1

Stop whinning. Just think if you were black or Mexican or born with sight or hands! Go on welfare and register as a democrat and you’ll feel better...OR...buck up and do the best at each and every thing you do.


31 posted on 10/22/2009 9:54:29 AM PDT by Your6
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To: rabscuttle385
Paragraphs are your friend, newbie.

At least there were spaces between the words.

32 posted on 10/22/2009 9:54:40 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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I am 32 yrs. old,

I smell BS.

I haven't downloaded the FAFSA yet, but the Wikipedia page about it says that the Selective Service requirement is only for men between 18 and 25. Once you get past 25 I don't think it matters anymore.

33 posted on 10/22/2009 9:54:45 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Soon everyone will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush...well, except for George Bush.)
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To: Jeremiah1

Do you have a church family / pastor? Go to God first and then other things will fall into place.


34 posted on 10/22/2009 9:55:13 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: Jeremiah1

In the off chance that you are not a troll, and are someone truly in need...

Try contacting the Salvation Army or Goodwill. They can help you get back on your feet and help you learn better decision making skills.

Good luck!


35 posted on 10/22/2009 9:55:31 AM PDT by Grumpybutt (Common Sense - where has it gone?)
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To: Lazamataz

Ask for his bank account number so you can deposit the check directly.

XD


36 posted on 10/22/2009 9:56:02 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Constitution Day
I called the number in the email for the selective service. They explained this is the law and by the time your 18 and blah blah blah. No one told me, not school, not friends, not family!!! No one!!! I was told , Sir, I'm sure someone told you to go to the post office and fill out the card. No, no one did. Why wouldn't I have done it I asked. See, for me the military wasn't an option. I wanted to join the military while still in high school. My best friend entered the delayed entry program for the Marine Corps, I wanted to go Navy. All my mother had to do was sign the paperwork but she wouldn't , she said No. There was nothing the recruiter could do. I had just turned 16 yrs. old at that time. I was put out of the house that year for a multitude of reasons both my wrongs and my mothers. I was on the streets and bounced from friends houses, to the woods and then finally Jail. I turned 18 yrs. old in jail. As soon as I got out of jail I went to my local recruiters office to enlist only to find that I must first complete my 5 yrs of probation. Meanwhile it is discovered that I have bipolarism. The military wouldn't have taken me anyway. From age 17 to 26 was spent either in jail or on the street waiting for jail.

Gee. He tried to sign up three times, but claims he didn't know about any draft registration?

Guy ain't smart enuf to be in da military. Ain't competent enuf to be behind of (or in front of) friendly troops with an armed weapon either.

37 posted on 10/22/2009 9:56:24 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Jeremiah1

If you’re a troll like everyone but me seems to detect effortlessly — nice jeremiad.
If not, I sympathize, but you sound like a survivor and you have more than you are counting. A family is priceless. Keep your chin up, something will come along.


38 posted on 10/22/2009 9:56:25 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: netmilsmom

And the PIN so I can check that the money got in.


39 posted on 10/22/2009 9:56:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: bolobaby

I sent off my registration form well BEFORE I turned 18. I can’t recall, but I probably sent it early because I graduated from HS at 17.

When my parents were cleaning out old files a couple of years ago, they found a letter from the SSS I got thanking me for registering early.

So he definitely gets no sympathy from me.


40 posted on 10/22/2009 9:57:14 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Jeremiah1
You need to get a keyboard with one of these:


41 posted on 10/22/2009 9:57:14 AM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: Lazamataz

It may be nothing more than BS, but no need to be uncivil about it. It may be real, and if it is real, the guy needs encouragement and pointed in the right way, not attacked. If its fake, they aren’t going to care about the attacks anyway...


42 posted on 10/22/2009 9:57:21 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Jeremiah1
I am twice your age female and knew about the Selective Service. There were adds on the TV all the time telling you to go to the Post Office and sign up for the Selective Service.

Also it would seem to me if you went to the recruiter's office to sign up even if your mother wouldn't sign they would have automatically signed you up for the Selective Service at that time. I know this because my grandson signed up for Job Corp and they asked him if he had signed up for the Selective Service and he told them "no." The Job Corp recruiter said I have to automatically sign you up then before you can go into the Job Corp.

43 posted on 10/22/2009 9:57:31 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Lazamataz

Exactly!


44 posted on 10/22/2009 9:59:13 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Jeremiah1

Oh come on!! My sons all got notices in the mail to sign up and they had all already joined the service in delayed entry programs by then. Did your family never check the mail?


45 posted on 10/22/2009 9:59:22 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Jeremiah1

Welcome, I think, n00b...

Selective Service has been a way of life here in the United States on this planet called Earth for decades...

Where have you been ???

On Calypso Louie Farakhan’s Mother Ship ???


46 posted on 10/22/2009 9:59:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Well, actually I think it is not possible to submit it after that.

If you become a citizen after 25, you are not required to have signed up.


47 posted on 10/22/2009 9:59:26 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (There is no "gray area" on issues. See things from both sides, but choose the right side.)
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To: Jeremiah1; Old Sarge; darkwing104; 50mm; rabscuttle385

48 posted on 10/22/2009 9:59:47 AM PDT by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition .)
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To: Constitution Day

This dude needs to drop out, become a furry, and spend all his time on Second Life.


49 posted on 10/22/2009 10:01:06 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Jeremiah1

Guess you don’t drive either. Every DMV I’ve been in has signs up with all the information you need about signing up for Selective Service.

In fact, I’m having a hard time believing you got those two degrees without having to answer a question about registering for SS. All the college paperwork I’ve filled out had that question on it.


50 posted on 10/22/2009 10:02:51 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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