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Retirement community wants girl, 6, gone
upi ^ | Oct. 22, 2009 a

Posted on 10/22/2009 5:38:34 PM PDT by JoeProBono

PINELLAS PARK, Fla.- A Florida couple said the homeowners association of their retirement community is trying to evict their 6-year-old granddaughter.

Jimmy and Judie Stottler of Pinellas Park said their granddaughter, Kimberly, came to live with them as an infant when authorities took her away from her drug-abusing mother, WSTP-TV, St. Petersburg, Fla., reported Thursday. The girl has stayed with her grandparents in the retirement community since, even though the community's rules don't allow children.

The couple said the homeowners association is now pressuring them to comply with the ban on children, but they are unable to move because they can't find a buyer for their house, said Robert Eckard, an attorney representing the family free of charge.

"If they sell the home, they can move; if not, they're homeless on the street," he said.

The Stottlers said they fear Kimberly may be put in foster care if they can't sell their house. Eckard said the final decision on whether the child can stay will be up to a judge.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: children; contracts; fla; grandparents; hoa; retirement
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1 posted on 10/22/2009 5:38:35 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

That’s positively unkind of them.


2 posted on 10/22/2009 5:39:51 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Why didn’t they start looking six years ago when the market was fine? There might be more to this story.


3 posted on 10/22/2009 5:41:40 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: JoeProBono

Condo commandos.

I hope the judge finds a good solution.


4 posted on 10/22/2009 5:43:31 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: bvw

5 posted on 10/22/2009 5:44:18 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: JoeProBono

I agree with the HOA. Flame away.


6 posted on 10/22/2009 5:44:38 PM PDT by taillightchaser (When a democrat says "The American people" you know the next words out of his mouth will be lies.)
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To: goodwithagun

***Why didn’t they start looking six years ago when the market was fine? There might be more to this story.***

My thought, too. It seems elders would not object to a six-year-old girl unless there’s more going on than we are told in the article.


7 posted on 10/22/2009 5:45:12 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: goodwithagun

I was wondering the same thing myself except wondering why the HOA allowed it to go on for so long. Seems to me they should have taken action six years ago rather than allow the precedent of the child living there be set.

Now it’s probably going to go in favor of the Grandparents under the current circumstances.

I’m a believer in the rules. If kids aren’t allowed in the community, then no kids. There’s a reason for it.

No we don’t live in such a community, and HELL will freeze over before we do. In-Laws used to live in such a place. nuff sed.


8 posted on 10/22/2009 5:47:26 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: kitkat

I hate to sound like a “zero tollerance” person, but this couple voluntarily moved into a community with these rules. Everyone there pays dues to the association. If the association broke a rule, this couple would probably fight that.


9 posted on 10/22/2009 5:47:55 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: JoeProBono

Isn’t this illegal age discrimination. Also clauses that are illegal or agains public policy can be declared void and unenforceable.

Hope the judge does the right thing.


10 posted on 10/22/2009 5:49:22 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: JoeProBono

Sure this is not in the by-laws, but life happens. Force them out, the remaining old farts deserve to live with that choice, and I’m sure with the right lawyer can prove that the law’s on their side.


11 posted on 10/22/2009 5:49:40 PM PDT by Sax
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To: JoeProBono

Just one more reason to never join an HOA. Frankly, I’d like to see them all made voluntary.


12 posted on 10/22/2009 5:52:26 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: JoeProBono
If our government can ignore The Constitution, this couple should be allowed to ignore the retirement community rules.
13 posted on 10/22/2009 5:53:10 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Condo commandos. I hope the judge finds a good solution.

So you believe that judges should toss out legal agreements between individual. That makes you a ?

14 posted on 10/22/2009 5:53:10 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: goodwithagun
Why didn’t they start looking six years ago when the market was fine? There might be more to this story.

Perhaps they were busy with changing diapers, frequent feedings, and buying clothes for their unexpected life-altering responsibility. Maybe they were in denial they would be assuming responsibility for their granddaughter in their retirement years.

There are a lot of empty homes and condos in Florida these days. Would love to know the occupancy rate at this complex. The old biddy crowd hollers loudly when they have to cough up additional money for assessments, should this couple have to leave without selling their home.

15 posted on 10/22/2009 5:54:31 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: mysterio
Just one more reason to never join an HOA. Frankly, I’d like to see them all made voluntary.

You have contradicted yourself in two short sentences.

Sentence one rightly states that it is voluntary.

Sentence two implys that they are not voluntary.

16 posted on 10/22/2009 5:54:53 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: JoeProBono

Just being old, and looking like grandparents, doesn’t make you a decent person. Back in 1948, some modern 78 year old was a selfish 17-year old bully nobody ever liked. And they fill associations today.

There’s a fine line between an association legitimately guarding property values, and old busybodies just pushing someone around because they can.


17 posted on 10/22/2009 5:55:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: ColdWater

That makes me compassionate, and cognizant of the fact that she has lived there for six years.

I’d give them some more time to try to sell their unit, and I certainly wouldnt kick them out.


18 posted on 10/22/2009 5:56:52 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: NautiNurse

My son just turned one, which means that I just weaned. My husband and I work full time. We have little help from family since grandparents live two hours away. I understand that there is little time, but they had six years.


19 posted on 10/22/2009 5:56:57 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ColdWater
If you want to live anywhere near a lot of areas, they aren't voluntary.

The way a lot of them operate is, frankly, disgusting.
20 posted on 10/22/2009 5:57:23 PM PDT by mysterio
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