Skip to comments.Attention all Hate Crime Legislation Legal Geniuses
Posted on 10/28/2009 9:16:09 PM PDT by CanaGuy
Attention all you legal geniuses. Here's a quick quiz.
a. Two Street-toughs attack a man in an alley, beating him up and stealing his money.
b. Two Street-toughs attack a man in an alley, beating him up and stealing his money. During the altercation, Street-Tough-A says, "I really hate you gay ba$tards." Street-tough-B was silent throughout.
c. Two Street-toughs attack a man in an alley, beating him up and stealing his money. During the altercation, both Street-toughs say, "We really hate you gay ba$tards."
The victim is crippled for life. The two attackers are caught, tried and sentenced.
What are the differences between the three scenarios from the court's perspective, and sentencing, now that the U.S. is under Hate Crime legislation?
What takes place in Canada now?
If a person who is 1/2 black and 1/2 white does something that causes harm to both blacks and whites equally, could they be charged twice under a hate crimes bill with black on white crime and white on black crime?
In Canada, the person who hates, gets it in the keister. Punishments are NOT equal. No lawyer has yet explained to me the justification for treating these three identical acts of physical violence and theft differently.
the federal government is not supposed to be playing cop. i understand the origin of the problem - blacks vs, the kkk. but the solution was flawed. local jurisdictions should have been left to correct their own behaviour. we fouled that up when we started screwing with the second amendment. imo, the correct answer to a cross-burning is a .30-06.
instead, we told minorities to seek peace at any cost, including their own legitimate anger. the anger never went away. it festered, and was passed on to the children. the results are painful and obvious. the united states of america is about freedom at any cost, not who can cry the most tears.
Two drunk idiots cruise town looking for some gays to beat- up and decide to attack a gay man who happens to also have a CCW permit. As he is attacked, the proud CCW permit holder blasts holes in his attackers’ chests saving the two drunk idiots from being charged with assault and a hate crime.
Should be that the perps be charged with Robbery and Aggravated Battery with great bodily harm in all instances no matter what the verbal exchange was.
Same crime in all three senarios. Same loss. Same injuries.
The two thugs can be acquitted of the beating and robbery in the appropriate local court and still be charged with hate in a federal court and convicted there. The USG uses “civil rights” violations to put people in prison after they are acquitted of the actual crimes charged. It is good for imprisoning members of proscribed groups when you can’t get them for actual crime.
1) A guy walks up to a girl in a bar and tells her what he’d like to do to her. She throws a drink in his face. The Bartender has the Bouncer toss him. The cop outside arrests him for Disorderly conduct.
2) A Gay guy walks up to a guy in a bar and tells him what he’d like to do to him. The guy throws a drink in his face. The Bartender has the Bouncer toss him. The cop outside arrests the Bouncer, the Bartender and the guy for a Hate Crime. The bar’s license is suspended until the owner and Staff attend Diversity Training.
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