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Norman Rockwell: The Original King of the Photoshop
gizmodo.com ^ | Oct 23 2009 | Wilson Rothman

Posted on 10/29/2009 1:34:25 PM PDT by Daffynition

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To: I Buried My Guns

The America you want to live in is a complete fantasy. And would you like to elaborate on this ‘Civil War’ that you so hastily glorify?


51 posted on 10/29/2009 2:33:33 PM PDT by dg0048
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To: Huck

Frazetta works from the mind’s eye. He just “figures out” things like a rabbit in motion.

He’s still alive

http://www.frazettaartgallery.com/ff/bio/intro/before1940.html

Boris Vallejo on the other hand airbrushed photos.


52 posted on 10/29/2009 2:36:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: capydick
One more from Will Elder:


53 posted on 10/29/2009 2:37:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: a fool in paradise

I saw a cool documentary about Frazetta. I think he’s in PA somewhere. Cool guy.


54 posted on 10/29/2009 2:37:08 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: stylecouncilor; onedoug

ping


55 posted on 10/29/2009 2:37:37 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

“Originality is what we celebrate.”

Since the Romantic Age yes, I’d agree. But that was not always the case. Originality/creativity was part of the equation but there were also considerations of expertise/virtuosity (the artist’s skill), subjective value (whether the spectator got pleasure from the work), form/style (how well the work conforms to rules of composition), and imitation (how well the work reproduces natural beauty; not necessarily in an exact sense).

I submit that without originality, a work can still be art, so long as it satisfies other qualities. It may not be as high an achievment as it otherwise might have been, but it’s still art.


56 posted on 10/29/2009 2:37:46 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: loungitude

Yeah, I don’t really dig 40s style babes, but Vargas is cool. I found out about him when I got Candy-O by the Cars back in the day.


57 posted on 10/29/2009 2:37:59 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: a fool in paradise

You ever seen Fritz the Cat? Great depiction of the 60s. Much different than the idealized leftist version.


58 posted on 10/29/2009 2:38:57 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Daffynition

What is art? Happy, thoughtless is no more art than grim, thoughtless. But the deeper you dig the darker it gets.


59 posted on 10/29/2009 2:39:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

“but how is it we all recognize the greatness of just a few artists?”

Sometimes it’s a matter of accident, sometimes of periodically alternating tastes. But you dealing here with the very heights of high art. For every one DaVinci, Michelangelo, Caravaggio, or Turner, there are thousands of lesser masters whose talent others would kill to possess. And for every one of those masters, there are thousands of hacks no one will remember after a generation, but who were still artists.

We can get bogged down constantly focusing on the Great Names. It’s one of the reasons Rockwell has been ignored by art snobs in the past 60 or whatever years. He’s nice and all, but is he a Rembrandt? Well, no, but do you have to be a Rembrandt to be a quality artist? No.


60 posted on 10/29/2009 2:42:58 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: a fool in paradise

That looks like Tom Selleck.


61 posted on 10/29/2009 2:44:16 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: I Buried My Guns
His work represents the America I WANT to live in.

Ooogedy-boogedy! You do realize Rockwell included blacks in his portraits too right?

62 posted on 10/29/2009 2:45:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: Huck

Fritz wasn’t counterculture in the early 1960s. But the character morphes as Robert grew older. And eventually he killed the character off when the movie got made without his control.


63 posted on 10/29/2009 2:45:38 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

That was the picture I was thinking of when someone mentioned ghettos. He also painted the picture of the little black girl on her way to school, with the tomatoes being thrown..I love his paintings..


64 posted on 10/29/2009 2:45:46 PM PDT by pesto
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To: a fool in paradise

I love the movie. I think every teenage wannabe hippie should be required to watch it and should be quizzed on it. It’s a very good demythologizing of the 60s counterculture. Gritty and cynical.


65 posted on 10/29/2009 2:50:42 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Daffynition

66 posted on 10/29/2009 3:09:04 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Huck
Funny you should mention Lennon:

On October 10, 1980, Mark David Chapman sold his beloved lithograph of Norman Rockwell’s Triple Self-Portrait to a Hawaiian public relations man for $7500. Chapman, who was strapped for cash, used the proceeds to quit his job, purchase a .38 revolver, buy airfare to New York and book a room at the Waldorf Astoria. From this base of operations he would stalk John Lennon at the Dakota and finally, in December, take his life.

67 posted on 10/29/2009 4:28:58 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition

Weird.


68 posted on 10/29/2009 4:30:07 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: JoeProBono
LOL ...I see what you did there...........and...............

You can't do that! LOL


69 posted on 10/29/2009 4:32:36 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition
Mmmmmmm....


70 posted on 10/29/2009 4:41:26 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Daffynition
Bad Girl


71 posted on 10/29/2009 4:56:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

72 posted on 10/29/2009 6:40:41 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition

Academy Award-winning director and producer Steven Spielberg has turned over to federal authorities Russian Schoolroom, a 1967 oil on canvas by Norman Rockwell that was filched from a Clayton art gallery in 1973, according to the FBI. No charges have been filed in the case, and federal officials say they have no evidence that Spielberg knew the painting had been stolen when he purchased it in 1989.


73 posted on 10/29/2009 6:55:02 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. I knew that Normal Rockwell painted from photographs of real people, but I didn’t know his paintings were composed from many different photographs.


74 posted on 10/29/2009 7:06:12 PM PDT by zot
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To: Revolting cat!
For me, Rockwell represented America as it should be; reminds me of another American who talked about The Shining City Upon A Hill.
75 posted on 10/29/2009 7:20:14 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: JoeProBono

WOW. Caveat emptor.


76 posted on 10/29/2009 7:28:18 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: capydick; Seadog Bytes; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

LOL! Great, capydick.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2374007/posts?page=48#48


77 posted on 10/29/2009 7:58:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: I Buried My Guns

I’m with you!

My mother was an artist and LOVED rockwells paintings(she grew up on his stuff on the front of the post.

His idea of what America was is exactly what my america was when i was growing up! small town america was still wholesome just a few years ago!

I can relate to just about every painting he ever did.

when I die...i hope heaven is like a norman rockwell painting.


78 posted on 10/29/2009 8:47:09 PM PDT by annelizly
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"...Ooogedy-boogedy! You do realize Rockwell included blacks in his portraits too right?..."

Um, what does that have to do with anything? My vision of an ideal America is not predicated on the absence of black people. That is stupid and racist, and I don't quite get your point.

79 posted on 10/30/2009 5:15:38 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: dg0048
"...The America you want to live in is a complete fantasy..."

Just because you can never attain the ideal does not mean you should not strive for it. That mentality is one of failure and frankly, France. An attitude like yours is not one that made America great, but rather hurtles us head first towards mediocrity.

"... And would you like to elaborate on this ‘Civil War’ that you so hastily glorify?.."

There is nothing hasty about it, FRiend. It is well thought out and was once a worst-case scenario. Sadly, it looks more and more like our only option as time passes. With our Constitution being trampled daily by a foreign President, our values rendered moot or worse across the land at an increasing rate (see the war on Christmas, for example), And the characteristics that made our nation great being dragged through the gutter or destroyed outright, the question is not about the "Civil War I so hastily glorify" but rather the bubble you occupy that makes all that stuff invisible to you.

If you can't see what's coming down the pike, I can't help you, as it is wholly apparent to me and millions of other Americans.

80 posted on 10/30/2009 5:26:13 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Tublecane

I think that’s the point.


81 posted on 10/30/2009 8:35:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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