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N.J. Court Says Americans Have No Right To Buy Handguns
http://jkshaws.wordpress.com/ ^ | 103109 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 10/31/2009 6:17:53 AM PDT by SHAWSBLOG

A New Jersy appeals court has concludedthat Americans have no Second Amendment right to buy a handgun

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; rights; supremecourt

1 posted on 10/31/2009 6:17:54 AM PDT by SHAWSBLOG
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To: SHAWSBLOG

Armed slaves fight back.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 6:21:33 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: SHAWSBLOG

In other words they have chosen to disregard the Constitution.


3 posted on 10/31/2009 6:21:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SHAWSBLOG

It’s a bad heading. They didn’t deny the right to buy handguns. They required a permit first, which to me is an “infringement”.

Still a very dangerous thing. Surely this will be appealed.


4 posted on 10/31/2009 6:22:27 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SHAWSBLOG

Joisey-ites hafta rent or lease their handguns?


5 posted on 10/31/2009 6:22:46 AM PDT by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: SHAWSBLOG

That Judge needs to be helped into retirement.


6 posted on 10/31/2009 6:22:51 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: SHAWSBLOG

As long as we still have our Constitutional right to free health care, I’m OK with that!!

(That was sarcasm folks. Really. How many readers of first sentences only will respond with a flame?)


7 posted on 10/31/2009 6:25:56 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: Bryanw92
As long as we still have our Constitutional right to free health care, I’m OK with that!!

I hear you loud and clear. I'll bet in the copy of the "Constitution" that those judges have, that right is listed next to the right to have an abortion.

8 posted on 10/31/2009 6:29:15 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: driftdiver

The 2nd Amendment is in the Constitution and abortion isn’t.

Yet the challenges to the 2nd Amendment seem to be unending.

Yes abortion has been challenged since Roe V Wade but if the number of court cases on abortion matched the cases on ‘gun control’ the DC idiocracy would be livid.


9 posted on 10/31/2009 6:30:42 AM PDT by relictele (If trickle-down doesn't work in private enterprise how will government spending trickle down?)
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To: Bryanw92

As long as we still have our Constitutional right to free health care, I’m OK with that!!

(That was sarcasm folks. Really. How many readers of first sentences only will respond with a flame?)

Ha ha! You forgot the “Right to an Abortion”. And “Freedom from Religion”. I carry my copy of the Constitution with me at all times, and so far, NOBODY has been able to locate those “RIGHTS”!


10 posted on 10/31/2009 6:33:31 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: DannyTN
I hope it is appealed. Requiring someone's permission to do something is applicable to a privilege, not a right.
11 posted on 10/31/2009 6:40:11 AM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: SHAWSBLOG
Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.

Heinrich Himmler

12 posted on 10/31/2009 6:43:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: left that other site

>>“Freedom from Religion”. I carry my copy of the Constitution with me at all times, and so far, NOBODY has been able to locate those “RIGHTS”!

I was discussing this with a liberal last week. I showed him the 1st Amendment and asked him to show me the separation clause. He pointed to the “establishment” clause, which says nothing about separation.

I then pointed to the “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” part which specifically forbids Congress from making any law that stops a prayer or religious expression. He read it and said, “I’m not sure what that means. You’re wrong about it.”

You just can’t fix that kind of stupid!!


13 posted on 10/31/2009 6:53:43 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: SHAWSBLOG

These elite SOB’s are just gonna keep on pushing until one day very soon, the DO-DO is gonna hit the fan.


14 posted on 10/31/2009 6:54:57 AM PDT by exnavy (GOD save the republic)
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To: SHAWSBLOG
One of the more asinine and meaningless rulings I've seen lately.

I'm afraid the horse has already left the barn, buddy.

15 posted on 10/31/2009 6:57:28 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: SHAWSBLOG

Civil War required people to buy their own gun to go to war!


16 posted on 10/31/2009 7:10:41 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: SHAWSBLOG

Actually, the SCOTUS was in a bind with Heller, because their rulings are based on the cases before them, and Heller was too small to make a sweeping decision, and so would be open to all kinds of challenges in the future.

So they used Heller to set up the solid framework for a future case, which is going to be McDonald v. Chicago. It is a much “meatier” case, because it legally goes back to the fundamental gun laws of the 20th Century, and also covers municipal, State and federal law.

McDonald v. Chicago is going to be a “Triple Whopper w/Cheese” decision, and the decision is going to take a year to write, as it will be the definitive 2nd Amendment text in every legal textbook in the US, perhaps for the next hundred years. It will probably be the most important opinion issued by the Roberts Court.

It would not surprise me if this New Jersey case was an effort to piggyback onto McDonald, to bring up issues that McDonald doesn’t address. If it does, then the SCOTUS will combine the two.

There are going to be lots of landmines scattered through the case, and some of them are going to be invisible. For example, this will also probably settle a major issue of federalism, that is, can the ATF regulate weapons and ammunition produced in a State for use in that State. And this will have a spin off effect into other areas of federalism.

The SCOTUS will also have to address who can specifically be prohibited from owning a gun. This means defining “enough” mental illness. Not easy to do, as you don’t want to deny soldiers a gun just because they have PTSD, or the millions of Americans who have the most popular form of mental illness, depression.

From there, the decision could go off at a tangent, such as considering prohibited *kinds* of weapons. Everything from high explosives to “assault weapons”, to explosive chemical weapons.

This is why the SCOTUS earns the big bucks.


17 posted on 10/31/2009 7:15:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: flowerplough
The ruling is suspect, and the judge needs to retire.

With that said, I am so glad that I left NJ.

18 posted on 10/31/2009 7:44:25 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: flowerplough
Joisey-ites hafta rent or lease their handguns?

And apparently not from other Joiseyites.

19 posted on 10/31/2009 8:43:40 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: SHAWSBLOG
Christie needs to make this an issue in the last couple of days!!

Tying Corzine the liberal into the liberal judges should be a winner.

20 posted on 10/31/2009 9:27:08 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: SHAWSBLOG

The N.J. court has no right to tell us we can’t buy handguns.


21 posted on 10/31/2009 9:35:10 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Christie needs to make this an issue in the last couple of days!!
Tying Corzine the liberal into the liberal judges should be a winner.

Christie is a gun grabber too.


22 posted on 10/31/2009 10:12:16 AM PDT by stevecmd
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To: Bryanw92

You just can’t fix that kind of stupid!!

Ha ha Ha.

Alas, that just shows what we are dealing with, my FRiend!


23 posted on 10/31/2009 2:46:44 PM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: SHAWSBLOG; All

Politicians and judges should not get armed security if the people cannot defend themselves.


24 posted on 10/31/2009 5:26:34 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: SHAWSBLOG; All

Phew! Camden, Trenton, and Camden will all be safe places now!


25 posted on 10/31/2009 5:29:00 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: SHAWSBLOG
Now they're being literalists in interpreting the Constitution?

The Constitution says you can "keep" and "bear" arms, but not purchase them?

I guess they expect people to make their own?

-PJ

26 posted on 10/31/2009 5:45:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Comprehensive congressional reform legislation only yields incomprehensible bills that nobody reads.)
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To: All; SHAWSBLOG

Related thread:

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


27 posted on 11/02/2009 11:51:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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