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Pa. Mom, Toddler In Stroller Killed By Train
AP Report ^ | October 31st 2009

Posted on 10/31/2009 1:24:07 PM PDT by Steelfish

Pa. Mom, Toddler In Stroller Killed By Train

Woman’s two young daughters manage to dart across tracks unharmed

DERRY, Pa. - A woman pushing a stroller across railroad tracks in western Pennsylvania was struck by a train and both she and her 2-year-old son were killed, police said.

The 37-year-old Derry mother and three of her children were returning from a shopping trip early Friday evening, authorities said. They said she was struggling to push the stroller across the tracks when she and her toddler son were hit by a Norfolk Southern train at about 5 p.m. Her two young daughters managed to dart across the tracks and were not injured.

The victims' names have not been released pending notification of relatives.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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1 posted on 10/31/2009 1:24:08 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

How awful. Prayers up.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 1:26:17 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Steelfish

“Pa. Mom, Toddler In Stroller Killed By Train”

The train did not kill mom and the toddler, the suicidal and Homicidal mother killer herself and her toddler.

Or, mom was just really stupid.


3 posted on 10/31/2009 1:28:36 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Allegra
Prayers. File away for when you think you’ve had a bad day. How horrible for the two surviving children to witness such tradgedy.
5 posted on 10/31/2009 1:31:49 PM PDT by JPG (NY-23...the shape of things to come.)
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To: Steelfish

Too bad the kid had to suffer from mom’s terminal stupidity.


7 posted on 10/31/2009 1:32:15 PM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping and prayer bump


8 posted on 10/31/2009 1:32:31 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: Steelfish

Dreadful. RIP.


9 posted on 10/31/2009 1:33:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Steelfish

Lord be with them


10 posted on 10/31/2009 1:35:13 PM PDT by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: Steelfish

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The crash happened less than 100 feet from where a 15-year-old was struck and killed by a train in July.

...

Was the rush to cross the TRACKS worth it?


11 posted on 10/31/2009 1:35:24 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: All

It’s easy to get stroller wheels going four different directions. Add some rough ground and some panic ...

Man, how awful. Not only for the family but for the train crew.


12 posted on 10/31/2009 1:35:36 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Obama = Nixon II)
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To: trumandogz

Maybe, just maybe, the stroller’s wheels caught in the tracks and desperate, she died while trying to move it.

What she should have done was grab the toddler and run. It is a fact that rational thought is impossible when panicking. I bet she screamed at the other two kids to run.

I won’t jump to conclusions, like murder and suicide, without more information.

What a tragedy!


13 posted on 10/31/2009 1:36:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Steelfish

Stupid people should NOT be allowed to reproduce. This lady was stupid. I feel terrible for the two year old who was killed and the two other children left without their mother due to pure stupidity.


14 posted on 10/31/2009 1:37:59 PM PDT by antiunion person (PALIN/COULTER 2012)
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To: Steelfish

Since this is not the only fatality here, is ther some reason people cannot see or hear a train coming?

A very tragic case, but totally preventable.

Slow down people, life is too precious.


15 posted on 10/31/2009 1:38:40 PM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Exactly! I see nothing idiotic about your post.


16 posted on 10/31/2009 1:40:22 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Steelfish

There HAD to be warning signs, flashing lights, bells ringing or even drop-down barriers blocking traffic. If any of these were inoperative, hang the railroad, otherwise I wonder if mom had on Walkman phones or otherwise clueless. Sad as it is, this appears to be a self-inflicted tragedy.

My boy is a RR engineer and says there is ALWAYS idiot who insists on trying to beat the train.


17 posted on 10/31/2009 1:44:20 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Steelfish

Prayers for the engineer and condutor who had to watch and hear this tragedy. They will live with this for the rest of their lives.


18 posted on 10/31/2009 1:46:51 PM PDT by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: ConservaTexan

You see nothing idiotic about his comment-—when it is in regards to a mother and her child having been killed on train tracks?
I understand the “Darwin awards” nonsense on FreeRepublic, but there is nothing amusing, or slightly cute about a mother and her child killed.


19 posted on 10/31/2009 1:47:15 PM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: CHATTAB

I unsderstand your sensitivity, but, as the incident appears to have occurred, the mother is sadly and completely responsible for her own death and her child’s. It’s an important point.


20 posted on 10/31/2009 1:50:27 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Steelfish

I did Peer Support for fellow engineers for a number of years and something like this something the crew will carry with them for the rest of their lives. A car with a drunk is one thing but a mother and child will be replayed over and over. Hope they will be given the help they will need, depends on the RR.


21 posted on 10/31/2009 1:50:45 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: CHATTAB

I said it was tragic. I don’t understand your reaction.


22 posted on 10/31/2009 1:52:37 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

You stated something along the lines of “Darwin award, tragic division.” I am well aware of the use of “Darwin Awards” on Free Republic to describe some stupid manner in which a criminal has died or been killed. I have also seen an increasing generality in the use of the term “Darwin Award.” Simply put, there is no humor in the violent death of a mother and her child.


23 posted on 10/31/2009 2:14:35 PM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: Steelfish

Unless the train swerved at the last second, this mother is an absolute buffoon. Children are way too precious to use as gambling chips and going “all in” against an oncoming train. It’s a friggin’ TRAIN for gawd sakes! You keep your kids safe on whichever side of the tracks you’re on, let the train pass, then proceed across and on to your destination. I feel no pity for the woman or for anyone else who chooses to be so stupid. I do feel sorry for the 2-year old and the people who will have to live with the repercussions of this woman’s choice.

People, if you can see a train approaching... don’t get in its way. It truly is as simple as that.


24 posted on 10/31/2009 2:17:05 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( Hey 0bama, Kenya show us the long-form BC? ))))
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To: Clara Lou

I did not miss the obvious point that it was the fault of the mother. As far as my “sensitivity,” I find it disappointing by the insensitivity of others regarding this matter...


25 posted on 10/31/2009 2:19:34 PM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: engrpat

Coroner Kenneth Bacha said Sheila R. Singer, 37, of Derry, and 2-year-old John F. Smart, died of blunt force trauma when they were struck by a train. He ruled the deaths accidental.

Singer was attempting to cross the railroads tracks with her three children moments before the accident occurred, the coroner’s report said. Singer escorted one of the children across the tracks and then came back for the other two. The stroller in which the 2-year-old was riding became stuck on the tracks, Bacha said.

Both mother and son were struck by a westbound Norfolk Southern train “with audible and visual warning devices in use,” Bacha said.

The location of the accident was not an authorized crossing area for pedestrians or vehicles, according to the coroner.

The accident was the second in four months

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_650895.html


26 posted on 10/31/2009 2:21:07 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: CHATTAB

Darwin Awards go to people who foolishly remove themselves from the gene pool. Racing a freight train with a stroller certainly qualifies for foolishness. That the fool was a mother, and that she killed her own child too, makes it tragic. Savvy?


27 posted on 10/31/2009 2:24:07 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: antiunion person

I just wish that people could be nicer...


28 posted on 10/31/2009 2:25:14 PM PDT by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: NativeNewYorker

I got it the first time.
I also got that you were trying to be cutesy/clever in your original statement.
I still think your statement was in poor taste.
Savvy?


29 posted on 10/31/2009 2:28:38 PM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: CHATTAB

Yeah, I savvy. One man’s observation is another man’s cause celebre.


30 posted on 10/31/2009 2:30:06 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: nmh

perhaps her two other children ran ahead and she couldn’t stop them, so she tried to catch up to them and failed......I cannot imagine any other scenario......


31 posted on 10/31/2009 2:31:36 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Steelfish

This is so sad.


32 posted on 10/31/2009 2:34:08 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: tioga

my mistake.........this was no accident, it was a fool’s errand. may they RIP.


33 posted on 10/31/2009 2:35:35 PM PDT by tioga
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To: NativeNewYorker

No controversy here-—we just don’t see eye to eye.


34 posted on 10/31/2009 2:35:57 PM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: tioga
“perhaps her two other children ran ahead and she couldn’t stop them, so she tried to catch up to them and failed......I cannot imagine any other scenario......”

However it happened it is tragic.

I can't imagine what the two survivors are feeling.

35 posted on 10/31/2009 2:53:49 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Two Kids' Dad
Children are way too precious to use as gambling chips and going “all in” against an oncoming train.

I live in a small tourist town that has tens of thousands of visitors every summer. The intersections are always crowded with people waiting to cross. Every time I go to town I see someone using their child's stroller as a place holder to be first across the street by holding the stroller out into the traffic lane off of the curb.

I have seen that dozens of times every year for over twenty years.

36 posted on 10/31/2009 3:54:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Democracy sucks!)
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To: Steelfish

Lots more detail here:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09304/1009760-59.stm

“Derry police Chief Randy Glick, who was on routine patrol in the nearby shopping plaza, saw the train approaching and repeatedly motioned and yelled for Ms. Singer to move from the tracks.”

“In July, Douglas Albright, 15, of South Greensburg, was struck by a Norfolk Southern train while crossing tracks in the 100 block of East First Avenue. After his death, officials spray-painted “no trespassing” on signs on both sides of the track, but “People look at them and they laugh,” Mayor Susan E. Bortz said. “They ignore them.”

“There is a bridge over the tracks about 50 yards from the site of the accident. Ms. Singer should have crossed there.”

I can’t muster any sympathy for the woman. Plenty for the child who was killed, and for the 2 children who had to witness the gruesome death of their mother and little brother, and for the train engineers, and for the police chief who had to witness it and the emergency personnel who had to come to the scene, and for the hospital personnel who had to deal with the traumatized surviving children, But not for the woman. I’m sure there are places in this country where people who don’t have a car or friends with a car, just can’t get to the grocery store for food without crossing train tracks. But that’s not the case here.


37 posted on 10/31/2009 3:58:19 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Cloverfarm
I have not seen a four stroller in at least ten years. The one we have had three large inflatable tires and they manage to stay going the same way.
38 posted on 10/31/2009 5:04:25 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Stroller-Makers may now face a lawsuit if this was a reasonably foreseeable event?


39 posted on 10/31/2009 5:21:46 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

My prayers for this family. But really, what IS IT about trains people don’t understand? They’re big, fast-moving and take a long time to stop and they can and do obliterate anything that gets in their way. Not to mention the trauma the poor engineer has to suffer just trying to do his job.


40 posted on 10/31/2009 5:48:57 PM PDT by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: trumandogz

Older, cheaper strollers still have the crazy wheels.

The worst was the umbrella stroller we got at Wal-Mart.


41 posted on 10/31/2009 7:12:07 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Obama = Nixon II)
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To: DariusBane
Darius, in the perfect world, people would be smarter too. Taking your kids across active railroad tracks and putting 2 little kids through what she put her kids though, should be against the law. I think the lady did all of us a favor. She thinned the herd. The weak shall die and strong will prevail. It's probably not what Obama has in mind for us, but it's the way of the wild. I don't have to be nice. Just honest.
42 posted on 10/31/2009 9:55:33 PM PDT by antiunion person (PALIN/COULTER 2012)
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To: CHATTAB
...but there is nothing amusing, or slightly cute about a mother and her child killed.

Hence the use of the word "tragic" in the original post. There was no joke, humor, sarcasm, amusement, cuteness etc. expressed in my or the original post. I can explain it, but I cannot understand it for you.

43 posted on 11/01/2009 4:06:52 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: CHATTAB

Since your nose is out of joint about this, I might remind you that this is STILL the USA. Everybody doesn’t have to react the way you do, Barack. Or is it Rahm?


44 posted on 11/01/2009 5:31:33 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou

I’m rubber, and you’re glue...
Have anything else?


45 posted on 11/01/2009 6:06:55 AM PST by CHATTAB
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To: antiunion person

Good LORD! “thinned the herd”... ? You really have taken the evolutionary model to heart...

Against the LAW? WHAAAA? What are you gonna charge this lady with?

You know, creating yet another law solves nothing... Just makes you feel like you have “done” something... sheesh


46 posted on 11/01/2009 7:08:55 AM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: Cloverfarm
Older, cheaper strollers still have the crazy wheels.

I am still betting on mom being really crazy or really stupid.

Either way, it is tragic.

47 posted on 11/01/2009 12:21:57 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Cloverfarm
Older, cheaper strollers still have the crazy wheels.

I am still betting on mom being really crazy or really stupid.

Either way, it is tragic.

48 posted on 11/01/2009 12:22:17 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: DariusBane
Certain laws need to be made. Other laws not. Do you sleep better at night ‘thinking’ you are better than anyone else?? Glad you can. Must drive you crazy that I think people should be tested before being allowed to have children?? Have a great day. lol
49 posted on 11/01/2009 3:40:50 PM PST by antiunion person (PALIN/COULTER 2012)
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To: antiunion person

“Do you sleep better at night ‘thinking’ you are better than anyone else??”

I don’t even know what that means... I just thought your post was mean... That’s all.


50 posted on 11/02/2009 11:19:34 AM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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