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USS New York: Navy's Newest "Defense Ship?" (Vanity)
Vanity | 11/3/2009 | Donald Freeman

Posted on 11/03/2009 7:33:37 AM PST by Belasarius

I was listening to Fox News on television from the other room this morning reporting on the arrival of the USS New York LPD-21 for a visit to New York City. As I was listening I heard the female news reader say that, "the USS New York was the Navy's newest "Defense Ship."

When did we stop calling them "warships?" Did anybody else hear this? Is this a Fox News thing? Or, is this an "Obama navy thing?" Or did it never happen?


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: military; navy; pc; ship

1 posted on 11/03/2009 7:33:38 AM PST by Belasarius
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To: Belasarius

It’s a media thing.


2 posted on 11/03/2009 7:35:42 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: Belasarius

History has it right, and a wheel is a wheel.

Western civilization figured out what works a long time ago. Tried and proven.

Now its being dismantled.


3 posted on 11/03/2009 7:36:37 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Belasarius

“Defense ships” only have port rudder!


4 posted on 11/03/2009 7:38:30 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Belasarius

I guess they thought that “Amphibious Assault Ship” might frighten the bad guys....


5 posted on 11/03/2009 7:38:39 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Belasarius
I remember in 1975 that when we held open ship tours of our 210 ft. Coast Guard Cutter for the residents of San Francisco we were told to emphasize that the 3 inch cannon was used for lobbing illumination rounds during night searches. Wouldn't want to make a liberal uncomfortable ya know.
6 posted on 11/03/2009 7:38:40 AM PST by dblshot
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To: Belasarius

You don’t need “warships” for “offshore man-caused contingency situations”.


7 posted on 11/03/2009 7:39:16 AM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: Belasarius

I even heard it called a battleship.


8 posted on 11/03/2009 7:41:15 AM PST by Surfer Bert (Remember when seconds count police are only minutes away)
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To: Belasarius

Probably just an FNC dummy. Sounds like something Martha McCallum would say....Yesterday they interviewed a Marine and the caption described him as a sailor. Another segment described the “commanding officer” as if that was his rank instead of his billet. The media, including FNC are still clueless when it comes to the military.


9 posted on 11/03/2009 7:41:27 AM PST by clintonh8r (My country. Not my government.)
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To: Belasarius

It’s just one little step at a time. Warship becomes Defense. Next we’ll call our military “security force.”


10 posted on 11/03/2009 7:43:18 AM PST by Paco
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To: stylecouncilor
Bump, USS New York, LPD 21
11 posted on 11/03/2009 7:44:53 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Belasarius

That’s nothing. I heard CBS Radio say that the “pointy end” was made of steel from the twin towers. Apparently CBS thinks their listeners are too dumb to know what a bow is. Or their writers are too dumb.


12 posted on 11/03/2009 7:45:22 AM PST by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: Belasarius

I can only imagine the hand-wringing that must have been involved when deciding what mission this ship would have. I was not surprised when I saw it was not a carrier or destroyer.


13 posted on 11/03/2009 7:46:31 AM PST by opticks
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To: opticks

Actually, Governor Pataki requested that a ship bearing the name “New York” be one tasked with direct involvement in the Global War on Terror.


14 posted on 11/03/2009 8:00:40 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: cyclotic
That’s nothing. I heard CBS Radio say that the “pointy end” was made of steel from the twin towers. Apparently CBS thinks their listeners are too dumb to know what a bow is. Or their writers are too dumb.

It isn't just military subjects; there are a lot of people in the media that are incapable of distinguishing spit from Shinola. The laughable tragedy of it is that they're utterly convinced that they're way out ahead of all of us hapless rubes.

There is a rare and shining exception from time to time, but in general- I detest media people.

15 posted on 11/03/2009 8:10:10 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: cyclotic
Apparently CBS thinks their listeners are too dumb to know what a bow is. Or their writers are too dumb.

I'm betting on the later.

16 posted on 11/03/2009 8:13:46 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: opticks
I can only imagine the hand-wringing that must have been involved when deciding what mission this ship would have. I was not surprised when I saw it was not a carrier or destroyer.

What have you got against amphibious ships?

17 posted on 11/03/2009 8:14:51 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: onedoug

This is the second ship of the San Antonio Class??

They went from 17 to 21?


18 posted on 11/03/2009 8:49:46 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: onedoug

You know, in a pich we could send those to dangerous waters with VTOL fighters sort of like an escort carrier.


19 posted on 11/03/2009 8:50:54 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Belasarius
What was The Department of War is now The Department of Defense...got it?

FMCDH(BITS)

20 posted on 11/03/2009 9:07:00 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: GeronL

There’s 18 & 19 that I know of.

I spent a week aboard USS Ogden LPD 5 during Operation Bold Mariner, Vietnam FEB 1969. It’s decomm’ed now, but daughter and I found her in San Diego in some of her last days. Great ship.


21 posted on 11/03/2009 9:11:33 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

So this isn’t the new San Antonio Class??

I am easily confused. lol.


22 posted on 11/03/2009 9:13:57 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: GeronL

“This is the second ship of the San Antonio Class??

They went from 17 to 21?”

USS San Antonio (LPD-17)
USS New Orleans (LPD-18)
USS Mesa Verde (LPD-19)
USS Green Bay (LPD-20)
USS New York (LPD-21)
USS San Diego (LPD-22)
USS Anchorage (LPD-23)
USS Arlington (LPD-24)
USS Somerset (LPD-25)
LPD-26 (not yet named)

More at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_class_amphibious_transport_dock


23 posted on 11/03/2009 9:47:11 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

I thought the San Antonio was the only one built so far, I know I’m nuts.


24 posted on 11/03/2009 2:14:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

My guess is the person who wrote the article doesn’t know a row-boat from battleship. Whatever the wussy press wants to call it, it is an “Amphibious Assault Ship’’. Or as R.Lee Emrey would say “A whole lot of whup-a$$’’!


25 posted on 11/03/2009 5:07:18 PM PST by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

My guess is the person who wrote the article doesn’t know a row-boat from battleship. Whatever the wussy press wants to call it, it is an “Amphibious Assault Ship’’. Or as R.Lee Emrey would say “A whole lot of whup-a$$’’!


26 posted on 11/03/2009 5:07:35 PM PST by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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