Michelle isn't happy about it either.
Posted on 11/05/2009 3:42:59 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
KAISERSLAUTERN, Germany — Airmen concerned about becoming glow-in-the-dark targets are sounding off about those shiny Air Force safety belts that clash with their cammies.
Airmen — and other servicemembers — have taken their gripes and giggles about the belts to the Web by starting a Facebook page titled (what else?): “I hate reflective belts.”
Air Force policy requires the belts to be worn during reduced visibility, such as inclement weather; on a flight line; and when a commander deems necessary, said Paul Carlisle, acting deputy chief of Air Force Ground Safety, via telephone from Kirtland Air Force Base, N.M.
They must be worn in traffic environments, whether it is on a street or in a parking lot, he said.
The purpose is to increase airmen’s visibility, Carlisle said.
And the policy applies downrange, although it’s up to the discretion of the commander, said Lt. Col. Ann Stefanek, an Air Force Pentagon spokeswoman.
Policy or not, some servicemembers don’t like having to wear something that may be fine and dandy for jogging at night or on the flight line, but is a head-scratcher when it comes to trying to blend in on a desert battlefield.
Some Facebook posters even gave the belt policy a four-letter-word salute.
Until last week, the Facebook site had about 3,600 members. After a story about it appeared on Wired’s “Danger Room” last Friday, more than 7,000 people have jumped on the anti-belt bandwagon.
“Nothing like wearing something that screams … here I am! Shoot me,” Jennie Eschbaugh wrote in her posting.
“I love when people say, ‘hey, where is your reflective belt?’ ” Tom Walsh chimed in. “My only logical response is, ‘wait … you can see me?’ ”
“We must ask ourselves … would Gen. George Patton want his troops wearing these?” Brandon Erickson wrote.
“I’m just thinking of the day when we wear so much reflective material that we literally glow. ... Someone should get a hold of as many reflective belts as they can in different colors and put them all on.”
Others bemoaned having to wear the belts at Bagram Air Field in Afghanistan; at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; and in Kuwait.
Air Force officials said they don’t have an official view on the Facebook page.
“We have obviously seen it as a result of Wired,” said Stefanek. “It is interesting to look and see what our airmen’s opinions are on different items.”
Stefanek added that the Air Force views personal Web sites and blogs positively and it respects the rights of airmen to use them as a medium of self-expression. While there is no current guidance specifically outlining engagement via social media, Air Force instructions provide guidance on appropriate public behavior.
But Air Force officials said airmen can be admonished or face nonjudicial punishment for not wearing the belts when required.
Airmen at Ramstein Air Base, Germany, had mixed views about the flashy uniform accessory.
They wanted to remain anonymous to avoid any backlash from higher-ups.
“I think it’s OK to wear at night. Technically, right now, I would have to wear it because it’s overcast,” one beltless airman said.
Another airman said he got ripped for not wearing his belt when he walked to the Chili’s restaurant on base.
And one of his battle buddies called the belts “ridiculous.”
Although many of the airmen interviewed weren’t wearing their safety belts, they certainly were packing ’em.
“It makes sense. It’s the law,” said Staff Sgt. Dagoberto Ramirez.
Great moments in
reflective belt history
November 2006
If not for the reflective belt, George Washington would have lost boats in the “fog of war,” thus rendering his crossing of the Delaware river pointless.
1775
The Confederacy might very well have won the American Civil War if General T.J. “Stonewall” Jackson had been wearing his reflective belt on that fateful evening in May of 1863. Unfortunately, he was not … and he was shot by his own men.
1876: A brilliant tactician, Gen. George Custer ordered his men to don their reflective belts at Little Big Horn to ensure the soldiers did not mistakenly shoot each other in the heat of battle … something we now know would not have made much of a difference.
From 1914 until mid-1918 our European Allies were locked in a stalemate of trench warfare. Enter the doughboys of the Allied Expeditionary Force who brought with them the power of the reflective belt. It has been said that the reflective belt was a key factor in Germany’s decision to surrender.
Normandy, June 6, 1944: Poor navigation, overrun drop zones and Nazi flak scattered the elite U.S. paratroopers throughout the French countryside. If not for their Army-issue reflective belts, they would have never been able to form LGOPs (Little Groups of Paratroopers), thus enabling them to complete their mission.
LGOP: a small group of “pissed-off American paratroopers” who are well trained, armed to the teeth, and lack serious supervision. They collectively remember the commander’s intent as, “March to the sound of guns, and kill anyone who isn’t dressed like you ...”
“And any sonofabitch in the 3rd Army who doesn’t wear his reflective belt is just as bad as a Nazi and will therefore be shot as a coward.”
- Gen. George S. Patton
Iwo Jima, February 1945: A colorized version of this famous photo proves the theory that Joe Rosenthal would not have captured this great moment on film had the glare of reflective belts not caught his eye.
LZ X-Ray, 1967 Vietnam: The 1st Cavalry Division (and it’s flair for all things yellow) dons reflective belts to help pilots decide where to drop napalm.
The real reason behind America’s swift victory in the first Gulf War
Everyone is doing it…
But....the concept looked so good on paper!
[Another example of myopic thinking that some deskjockie thought was a good idea.]
I can see these things for joggers or perhaps motorcycle riders.
The rest is pure beancounter BS.
LOL!
That woman should really stop chasing parked cars.
"Chewie" looks like she stepped on a live squid
The only way they could find Saddam was due to his bright yellow reflective belt.
Smiling.
Hilarious.
Other than on motorcycles, I haven’t seen much reflective clothing at KAFB. I’ll have to keep my eyes peeled today near the flight line.
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