Posted on 11/05/2009 7:58:38 PM PST by SwaggerStick
More intriguing to me than the story behind an unhinged Muslin is how in the hell a General could stand before America and deal out so much misinformation – there was only one shooter who had two pistols, he was shot dead and the person who shot the shooter was also shot dead.
Now I know why so many of our young are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our Generals don’t know their asses from their elbows. One would expect miss information from civilians, but hearing it from seasoned military people who are very accustomed to battle is amazing.
When you have a General who lacks the common sense to realize there is no way in hell one man with two pistols could kill 11 and wound 31 you have a General who will lead our soldiers to slaughter.
Not only was the General dead wrong with his information, his second press conference was hours late with only a passing mention of him being tardy.
I served 3 years in the Army and 4 years in the Air Force, all I can say is I hope to hell we never face off with Russia or China with Generals like this.
Ahhh...latest reports show that the scumbag is still alive...
I agree with the rest of your posting heartily.
Now the Obummer spin begins!
The spin is that Obama will blame George Bush for driving this guy to go crazy! Hasan is a George Bush victim
Um, how many did the lone shooter at Virginia Tech shoot and kill and wound????? There were 32 dead (33 including the shooter) and 23 injured. There is a way one man can do that much carnage. Not to excuse the General giving out reports that were not accurate, but the argument on this issue is not supported.
I think that the FBI on orders from very high up was telling people what to say. This has to have shaken Obama up. The administration was hoping that the violence would come from the right.
I take it you are talking about General Cone. Do you have any way to prove he is wrong? Is there a reason to say the murderer is still alive and the off-duty cop is still alive when it isn't true?
Hey Patton,
Imagine a barrel full of fish.
What gets me is that this is a MILITARY BASE! He has the time to load and reload getting of 50 shots, minimum? This isn’t some college campus where no one is allowed to carry guns, this is our MILITARY!
Frightening.
But it is true. The gunman is alive.
Sonds like an affrimative action General .. sure his name wasn’t Powell?
Muslin is a type of cloth.
I hope they don't spin it that way and tell us that this Muslim soldier was "Conservative", Republican, wrote on right-wing blogs, attended a tea party, etc...
Just heard the shooter had been being “watched” for 6 months. Where does that buck stop?
If it’s the one I watched when Fox was showing the press conference, he’s white. Does the military have affirmative action programs for white people???
Political correctness don’t ask don’t tell when your Major is posting Anti-American rants on the net (alledgedly)
The only people on a U.S. military installation allowed to carry firearms is Military Police. The only times others have weapons is during training, and only in specific locations on the base. Where this incident happened it wouldn’t be much different than on VT’s campus.
skin color means nothing ... affirmative action has been alive and well for many years ... except when it is a non black situation, it is called the Peter Principle. Both have the same very root.
how in the hell a General could stand before America and deal out so much misinformation – there was only one shooter who had two pistols, he was shot dead and the person who shot the shooter was also shot dead.
He had a sack full of preloaded magazines. Even I can change a magazine in a couple of seconds. I’m not understanding why this is considered impossible.
Dear dumb a$$ - just down the road at a cafeteria in the early 90's one guy killed 23 and wounded another 20. One shot in a crowd can hit 2 or 3. You don't seem to know a damn thing so why not give them a few hours to sort it out.
Maybe the Muslin had a hugh and series beeber which stuned him.
Affirmative Action and the Peter Principle are not equivalent. According to the Peter Principle, people reach a promotion level where they are no longer competent to do the job, whereas Affirmative Action is a means of forcing the hiring or promotion of people of color in order to “level the playing field” regardless of the persons qualifications in the first place.
What General do you speak of?
I’m not saying he couldn’t kill all those people, he certainly could. With NO ONE SHOOTING BACK. Why and how was he able to shoot that many people before being taken down himself. That is my point. This wasn’t a college campus where no one carried guns, this is a MILITARY BASE!
I reminded the poster that 32 were killed and 23 wounded at VT by a lone gunman.
Again, a Military installation where no one carries weapons except law enforcement - with the exception of on the weapons ranges, which were no where near the location of the shooting today.
Dah - Did this shooter also have two pistols?
i knew this was BS when i heard that the police officer who shot the shooter dead (at the time that was the story) was also shot dead. And that the shooter was the lone shooter. What are the chances of that?
The FBI right coming on the scene right away was suspicious and then the “this was not terrorism” statement so quick was even more suspicious.
I believe the WH has put the Army in the position of having to lie to the American people and cover up a case of terrorism at a US Army post. This is unbelievable. And BO is behind this because the guy is a muslim.
It would appear that you have never been involved in a tragic loss of life situation involving a number of people. Almost all of the initial information is based on bits and pieces of reports. There is enormous pressure for statements to me made and the understanding of what has happened and why remains in flux for some time. Give those in charge a break. You are using the Leftist measure of perfection against human beings.
Active duty security alert teams on board ship .... ROE .. we were issued weaps and a baggy of rounds to strap at our leg. A magazine never touched the 45. And the security team was only called out for emergency .. they didn’t roam the ship 24 hours.
the only armed man on ship is the POOW on the qtrdeck in port .. again, 45 in holster, empty .. rounds in magazines on the belt in a snap coverd carrying case.
god help you as the OOD, or CDO if your POOW EVER let that magazine touch the firearm.
Virginia Tech had kids hiding under desks (like a duck shoot) These were seasoned combat troops - big difference.
It’s hard to believe, but it’s a fact - military bases lock firearms away. I had a private firearm the whole time I was in and it was locked up in one armory or another the entire time. This guy knew he was walking into a gun-free, target-rich zone and that’s why he chose it. If I posted what I really think about the thing I’d be banned.
Affirmative action ...Peter Principle .. the NET result is the same.
What General do you speak of?
Only if the general is a flaming lib...
It’s in your title BTW.
Did anyone else notice the man standing behind and to the left of the General (looking at the TV) when he was speaking was shaking his head as if to say “not true” or “no”?
One of my son’s was in the Navy...he said the military would never trust a sailor with a gun...thats what Marines are for....:O)
Seasoned combat troops who are unarmed are just as defenseless against a well armed man as students on a campus.
They are called Perfumed Princes in the military, great with PowerPoint and kissing up, not much else.
Is that the General being discussed here? Hell, I can’t get a damn answer!
Good comment.
I don’t know. I’m assuming so.
The CIC sets the example. He states what ever he thinks is applicable for the given situation. The important thing is to keep the media busy. If the media isn't busy it may have time to start an investigation of its own.
It’s a troll.
Dude,
in high school and college shootings, you have scared kids running and hiding, and school/small town/college PD’s have orders to WAIT for SWAT...even thought kids are dying......IN this case, you have dozens of battle hardened GI’s which are used to firefights and can easily tackle one assailant...you are telling me that no one tried to incapacitate the assailant? We are talking a physician (they usually are exempt from PT...the guy looked out of shape anyway, they usually do not spend much time shooting or in the field either...
I served on a SAC base in the 70’s - I worked Aircraft Security for the Nuke loaded B52’s. The only time we carried our weapons was while on duty - the only time we had our magazines loaded into the weapons was while in the security areas where the B52’s were parked (or the KC-135’s used for refueling). Other than that, the only people on base who carried weapons were on-duty LE. No one else carried weapons on base. The Army Posts are the same.
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