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To: SwaggerStick

What gets me is that this is a MILITARY BASE! He has the time to load and reload getting of 50 shots, minimum? This isn’t some college campus where no one is allowed to carry guns, this is our MILITARY!

Frightening.


9 posted on 11/05/2009 8:13:18 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: autumnraine

The only people on a U.S. military installation allowed to carry firearms is Military Police. The only times others have weapons is during training, and only in specific locations on the base. Where this incident happened it wouldn’t be much different than on VT’s campus.


17 posted on 11/05/2009 8:19:13 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: autumnraine

He had a sack full of preloaded magazines. Even I can change a magazine in a couple of seconds. I’m not understanding why this is considered impossible.


20 posted on 11/05/2009 8:20:33 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: autumnraine

Active duty security alert teams on board ship .... ROE .. we were issued weaps and a baggy of rounds to strap at our leg. A magazine never touched the 45. And the security team was only called out for emergency .. they didn’t roam the ship 24 hours.

the only armed man on ship is the POOW on the qtrdeck in port .. again, 45 in holster, empty .. rounds in magazines on the belt in a snap coverd carrying case.

god help you as the OOD, or CDO if your POOW EVER let that magazine touch the firearm.


31 posted on 11/05/2009 8:30:55 PM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: autumnraine
As the Colonel explained, soldiers on a base do NOT carry their weapons around with them--unless they are on a training exercise that requires weapons--or are in "full battle rattle" immediately (as in hours) before deployment.

The woman who shot Hasan was a civilian security officer--she would be armed--and she did not die, as first reported.

The Colonel who gave the press conference said it was "counter-intuitive" that only one shooter could have killed and wounded so many persons, but that one of the weapons Hasan used was semi-automatic--so that could explain how so many shots were fired.

The tragic thing is that these soldiers, so used to combat, would be the last to suspect that any danger could be lurking within the supposedly secure--and safe--confines of their own base.

59 posted on 11/05/2009 8:57:32 PM PST by milagro
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To: autumnraine

I agree.

There is a lot of explaining to do. According to reports, this guy was under investigation for disturbing internet posts regarding suicide bombings. Who made the decision that this would be a good guy to deploy into a war theater?


61 posted on 11/05/2009 9:01:55 PM PST by juggernaut
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To: autumnraine

Less than 4 mags, but the victims must have been concentrated and trapped. I carry 27 rounds in 2 mags.


74 posted on 11/05/2009 10:39:23 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: autumnraine

Most anyone with three 15 round magazines could fire 45 shots in about 90 seconds. And that would be a slow pace. Bang. One thousand one. One thousand two. Bang. Pretty damned slow. And magazines are cheap. Having four or five would not be outrageous.


112 posted on 11/06/2009 10:20:39 AM PST by Vermont Lt (My wife reads my posts. In case the FBI shows up, we will have cookies.)
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