Posted on 11/10/2009 11:39:26 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
I am noticing an increasing number of anti Palin comments among Republicans.
I think this is a good time to filter the trash out of our party. We Republicans tend to tip toe through the tulips. But if we want to get our party back, we need to do it now. As much as I dislike Obama. and many of us mocked his "get in their faces quote". I want to ask you.
How did we dominate the healthcare debate in August ? We stood up and got in their faces. It worked. You can do this without being violent, without using curse words. Just stand up.
Some of you remember the days of Woody Hayes at Ohio State and Bo Schembechler at Michigan.
We can't be afraid to learn and pay attention to how Obama did it. Because Obama was great at getting control of his party and winning. Unfourtunately, he has no idea how to govern. The great thing about Reagan conservatism is, 75% of it is just making the country believe in itself again. We forgot how to govern in the early 2000s. That is how we lost, but we learn from history.
A lot of people said Obama could never be President for various reasons. The same attitude is used against Palin.
Everybody should read Rules For Radicals by Saul Alinsky. We can use their own tactics to destroy them. Right now, I think we need to use these tactics against anti Palin Republicans. Get in their face. Ridicule them. Freeze them. Personalize them. Polarize them. We need to play it like they are so far out of the mainstream. Perception is reality. Our reality is that they are so luke warm and we are spitting them out. Their reality needs to be cold and isolated.
It is not just about Palin. She is one person. But she is a good lithmis test to see who is really a conservative and who is not.
A lot of Palin hating Republicans don't want a woman to be President. Is that reality ? I don't know. But lets make it reality. Lets live it, breath it, accept it as fact. And then it becomes reality in it's self. They are frozen out of the party and isolated.
Lets do it.
The GOP belongs to Palin now. Not one red cent to the RNC.
Remind the GOP's phone solicitors that they need to remember that you won't be giving them any more money until they get it right.
But be prepared to receive incoming from some of FR's very own "moderates", who like RINOs, are also embarrassed by principled conservatism.
Having said that, I think her small government conservatism is an excellent litmus test, as you describe it. She gives good speeches as well.
She has time
I am just asking a question here so don’t get mad at me, but does Palin define what is a conservative Republican these days?
I think so. Yes.
Her position of key issues.
I love her.,..what a great president she would be.
Beware the Mitten-lovers....right here in FR.
they stay, through stealth... even though Jimrob dosent want them here
I love her.,..what a great president she would be.
Beware the Mitten-lovers....right here in FR.
they stay, through stealth... even though Jimrob dosent want them here
I don’t think there are many Palin Haters.
It’s more involved.
The media has almost succeeded in convincing the country that Sarah is some sort of stupid Christian crackpot, incapable of a coherent thought.
In short, they are trying to “Dan Quayle-ize” Sarah.
Thus for anyone who supports Sarah, they will try to make them feel ashamed.
But many of these folks are good, loyal conservatives. We don’t have to kick them out of the party.
Instead, we just have to convince them NOT to appear on any of those left-wing, anti-Palin shows. Give them all the TV exposure they need on Hannity, Rush, local conservative talk shows, etc.
But get them off CNN, MSNBC, etc.
And for ordinary folks, we have to convince them that those left-wing shows are anti-Palin because THEY FEAR HER.
It is NO SHAME to support Sarah. Make it a point of honor and pride.
My 2cents
Yep. We can be politically incorrect while we look politically correct... while making them look politically incorrect at the same.
For instance, A certain persons religion would not allow a female to be President. I don’t know if that is true or not. But we can live it, breath it and win with it.
How different it is when Obama or CNN tells us that we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. Now, we have conservatives taking the same tack. Friends, I am a Goldwater and Reagan Republican. Nobody, friend, foe or a Octagon fighter tells me whom I should respect or cater to. I personally have a problem with Ms. Palin abandoning the governorship of Alaska, and that makes me question whether or not she currently has what it takes to be President of the United States. If that hurts feelings, tough cookies, friends. Grow up and quit being like the Democrats.
The GOP is a hopeless cause. There are too many liberals in it in high places. Palin could form a new party or join one of the other conservative parties.
I think your problem is a gender issue.
We have had 44 Presidents. All were men. Some people are not comfortable with having a female President.
How can you possibly jump to that conclusion? Are we reading the same post?
So anyone who questions Palin’s credentials is a “hater” and should be purged?
Brilliant!
Screw that.
Third parties don't win.
Sarah can win and she can remake the GOP in her own image.
Let the RINOs form a third party or whatever the Hell they wish.
Because they represent a threat to everything we believe in,
yes, absolutely. 95% of them are not conservatives anyway.
They either have gender issues or religious issues, or both. There are men and women who don’t want a female President in this country. We need to face that fact.
You do this by getting into your local GOP and getting involved in the selection and support of candidates. You do it by running for office yourself. You can’t all be president or even Congressman.
There can be a lot of fighting for freedom at the local level. Don’t for get the KELO case and other abuses of eminent domain.
Go out and fight for freedom locally. Talk to you neighbors and friends. Exert your influence in your sphere of acquaintances/friends/family.
Get educated on the US Constitution, your state constitution, local charters, Austrian economics, effective activism, and effective political campaigns if you decide to run. WALK YOUR DISTRICTS and talk to people. Pressure elected officials relentlessly.
That said, don’t devolve into a cult of personality. Watch out for that. Ron Paul fans need to be careful to not do that. Palin supporters need to watch out as well.
What’s cool is that Palin sounds like she’s been talking to Paul on monetary and fiscal policy recently.
Did you have similar qualms about Bob Dole when he abandoned his Senate seat during his run for the presidency in 1996?
It doesn’t really matter, now does it ?
freeze, isolate, personalize
I’m with you...!
In fact, I posted a very similar vanity back sometime in the spring and found myself in a free-for-all fuzzball with at least three different groups-—the Romneyites, the “Party-over-Principle” crowd, and outright misogynists who believe that women have no place in politics.
Regardless, I’ve got your back on this one!
What if we don’t hate her, but don’t like the way she’s handled herself, don’t like her flaky ways, and especially don’t like her daughter’s “baby daddy” drama she keeps herself at the center of?
Thank you, righttackle44. I wholeheartedly agree with you. The reasons Mrs. Palin gave for leaving the AK governorship will only be magnified a hundred-fold as POTUS. Why would I vote for her? So she could quit half way through her first term as POTUS?
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Yeah, it does...
The misogynists are definately real. That is what Sarah is up against.
No. We don’t do Alynsky crap to Republicans because they aren’t pure enough. Gees.. We might not elect them, and we certainly shouldn’t follow them but we don’t destroy them. Grow up and don’t allow yourself to be seduced by the dark side Luke..
No. We don’t do Alynsky crap to Republicans because they aren’t pure enough. Gees.. We might not elect them, and we certainly shouldn’t follow them but we don’t destroy them. Grow up and don’t allow yourself to be seduced by the dark side Luke..
And the Romney supportes will demand we purge the Romney haters from the party. And the Huckabee supporters will demand we purge the Huckabee haters from the Party. And the Pawlenty supporters will demand we purge the Pawlenty supporters from the party. By the time all is said and done then nobody will be left.
If you label your enemy before they can label you, you are way ahead. That is something we Republicans need to learn and quick.
anyone who makes a post like that is definately not on the right side of things.
You obviously have NO understanding of what was going on in Alaska with Obama's minions, who were involved in a massive, organized effort to bankrupt the Palins and to drive them out of politics for good.
Read this and enlighten yourself...
Palin financial disclosure may explain timing of her resignation
If it works...
Romney is a RINO
Pawlenty is a RINO
Huckabee is Half a RINO
we can modify Huckabee perhaps...but Pawlenty and especially Romney are big government one world types and screw them....we need the OUT
by the time we are finished we will have gone from a 40% conservative party to an 80% conservative party....and that is a problem for you????
“They either have gender issues or religious issues, or both. There are men and women who don’t want a female President in this country. We need to face that fact.”
I hope you realize how much that sounds like the argument Obama’s team used to get him elected” “If you don’t like him, you must be racist.”
anyone who makes a post like that is definately not on the right side of things.
Easy there, Alinsky Jr....
And... OBAMA WON !
I used to hate the Pittsburgh Steelers because they would blitz the quarterback almost every play.
I love Sarah but I think this is stupid! Thankfully, you are not in charge of the criteria for who can, can't be a member of the Republican Party.
I am suggesting what we should do. I am not the leader of the party.
But we need a change in tactic
Sarah is not in my top 10 candidates to vote for. If I get purged for it, so be it.
If it helps, Mitt ain’t even in the top 100.
Sarah didn't resign the governorhship to run for another office, which until Democrats decided they wanted their cake and to eat it, too ala Lieberman in 2000, was the status quo. She resigned after the election.
I’ve been down the road a few times on thinking I’ve found the perfect politician, only to be disappointed. So I’ll pose a question: When “political reality” meets “conservative ideals”, what disappointments would you be willing to accept from a President Sarah Palin?
My real point is that sometimes “good enough” is all you get. Reagan had to deal with a Democrat congress for his first 6 years, and had to compromise, although he did drive the discussion. Sometimes leadership means expecting people to follow....
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she said she resigned for a “higher calling”
While you're purging the party of people who make "anti-Palin" comments or aren't conservative enough, ask her if she is for a path to citizenship.
That will just turn conservatives off. Not because of who you want representing us, but by the employment of tactics used by the liberals.
For Sarah to be the nominee, and for her to lead this party in the direction it has lost, she needs to speak up as she has, for true conservative voices and candidates, win, lose or draw.
By doing so, she has chased one GOP backed candidate out and made others seriously look at the values that have been ignored since Bush 41 took office.
Her simple recognition of a conservative candidate, regardless of the party choice, woke a number of conservatives to also jump on that bandwagon, and scared the crap out of the GOP elites, who have no idea which direction to turn.
The people, the true conservatives, who make up a huge part of the GOP are going to see that as the leadership that is so sorely lacking, and flock to that cause.
Whether Sarah is the nominee or not, is not the issue. The issue is getting back to the social and fiscal conservative roots that make this nation prosper.
That should begin now, for 2010, and not until that is accomplished should we consider who leads in 2012. That issue will resolve itself.
Thankfully, you are not in charge of the criteria for who can, can’t be a member of the Republican Party.
Every contingent thinks they are in control when in reality they aren’t more than a keyboard jock at best.
I really like Palin....but the current GOP elites will not allow her to be the nominee. The GOP needs a big shakeup to rid itself of the current “think they should be the nominee” guys. Also, the primaries will work the same way as last time unless something changes. That means that the democrats will choose our candidate. The GOP will actually work with the press to find ways to diss Sarah.
remember Huckleberry has been making some jabs at her lately, so have others. With some people it is working.
There where having a strong personality and a star in front of it COVERS UP the tactic.
most Conservatives won’t reject Sarah, most RINOs would.
If we use these tactics against Palin’s enemies. The RINO’s are the ones pushed off the stage.
That is why we have to destroy them, indylindy.
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