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A red hot electric car (VIDEO)(Not a Tesla!)
www.brasschecktv.com ^ | 11/11/2009 | Staff

Posted on 11/11/2009 5:41:03 AM PST by Red Badger

Paradigm smasher

This guy is going to ruin everything for the global warming/carbon tax crowd.

Non-polluting cars that are high performance and fun?

Tell me it ain't so Big Al (Gore).

How are we supposed to wallow in "inconvenient truths" if trouble-makers like this mess things up by smoking the car companies with superior home brew engineering?

Remember, the personal computer was the creation of a bunch of unfunded individuals, not the military-industrial complex.


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1 posted on 11/11/2009 5:41:04 AM PST by Red Badger
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CHECK THIS OUT!.............


2 posted on 11/11/2009 5:41:29 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Red Badger

“Remember, the personal computer was the creation of a bunch of unfunded individuals, not the military-industrial complex.”

Early versions of DOS and vic 20’s were the creation of unfunded individuals.

The modern computer is very much the result of deep R&D pockets.

And whats wrong with the military-industrial complex?


3 posted on 11/11/2009 5:43:55 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red Badger

And what are all those stickers on the car? They look like sponsors.


4 posted on 11/11/2009 5:45:28 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red Badger

bump


5 posted on 11/11/2009 5:47:35 AM PST by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: driftdiver

Probably equipment manufacturers’ stickers...............


6 posted on 11/11/2009 5:47:35 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: driftdiver

Whats wrong with the military-industrial complex?

I’m more afraid of the Government-Healthcare Complex and Government-Financial Complex!..............


7 posted on 11/11/2009 5:49:31 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Red Badger

Govt run anything is typically bad. Interesting car though to bring this back on topic. Didnt mean to hijack the thread.


8 posted on 11/11/2009 5:53:21 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red Badger

Not to disparage the creator, but electric drag racing is old news.

Yes, it’s cool. But short, high-performance bursts of energy have never been a problem for electric cars.

It’s when you get to the end of your street and need to get all the way to work and back that electrics have a bit of a practical issue...

(Yes, I know that most people work within the range of the typical electric)


9 posted on 11/11/2009 5:55:23 AM PST by chrisser (Tweet not, lest ye a twit be.)
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To: Red Badger
Cool car!

Big future for the electricity mining business.;-)

10 posted on 11/11/2009 5:56:28 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: Red Badger

I wonder if he knows the power plants that make the electricity to recharge his car are burning coal.


11 posted on 11/11/2009 5:58:17 AM PST by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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To: driftdiver

There’s private sponsors and the government. Private sponsors put their own money up, the government puts your money up.

That being said, the problem right now is not the basic technology, it’s the range. If you can get 500 miles, a 5 minute recharge, and go another 500 miles, it will be viable to replace the internal combustion engine. If not, it will be restricted to commuter vehicles.


12 posted on 11/11/2009 5:59:10 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: Red Badger
It's a 1500lb Datsun with a big electric motor. Impressive, can't argue with 12sec/107mph, but still limited by battery capacity.

Making an electric car fast is not the hard part - the hard part is duplicating the consistently reliable performance of the IC engine under any conditions and for any distance, subject only to the availability of hydrocarbon based fuel in the tank.

Good display of the instantaneous torque available with the DC motor though, when he left that 'Vette at the line like it was tied to a post.

But let's see how far it gets at full throttle...

13 posted on 11/11/2009 6:00:26 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Red Badger

That is pretty cool.

I wonder how may kW it took for the 11.8sec. quarter mile. Then, we could see how much coal was used at the power plant.


14 posted on 11/11/2009 6:04:09 AM PST by Gvl_M3
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To: rstrahan
If you can get 500 miles, a 5 minute recharge, and go another 500 miles, it will be viable to replace the internal combustion engine.

At 80mph, uphill, with 4 passengers and the AC running.

15 posted on 11/11/2009 6:04:45 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: driftdiver
Early versions of DOS and vic 20’s were the creation of unfunded individuals. The modern computer is very much the result of deep R&D pockets.

Corporate bureaucracies do not tend to have the creative vision to fund radically new ideas. Once somebody else has demonstrated the viability of a new idea, they are great at refining and "product-izing" the idea.

16 posted on 11/11/2009 6:08:11 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Red Badger

12 to 20 minute recharge after a quarter mile.


17 posted on 11/11/2009 6:10:07 AM PST by SouthTexas (God Bless our Fort Hood Troops)
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To: xsrdx

IC engines do not electricute you.

Have you read the safety precautions required of hybrids?

The jaws of life can’t even be used on some models due to the danger to first responders.

Electric cars will not improve until they can be taxed like regular cars. (read about the cooking oil diesel user who was sent a notice for tax avoidance since he used used cooking oil and did not pay road tax from pump fuel?)


18 posted on 11/11/2009 6:11:59 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SouthTexas

At full throttle.............er, resistor.....................uh, whatever.............


19 posted on 11/11/2009 6:13:04 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Red Badger

no matter how you slice it,

a but ugly Datsun with a back seat full of batteries will not get you a hot date with a stunning looking woman.


20 posted on 11/11/2009 6:19:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Badger

Holy crap!!!!!

I wonder how much this modification cost him (I’m still watching the video ... does it say?). He’s beating some serious horsepower on that 1/4 mile.

And the car is much more attractive than a Prius. LOL!


21 posted on 11/11/2009 6:21:52 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Red Badger

12 MINUTES recharge for EACH 1/4 MILE.

IOW ....useless.


22 posted on 11/11/2009 6:24:33 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

23 posted on 11/11/2009 6:24:58 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: al_c

The guy in the beemer still goes home with the trophy wife...


24 posted on 11/11/2009 6:27:26 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Badger

Very cool. But the statement that he can run his car with zero air pollution is false. First, the batteries must be manufactured somewhere and the raw materials must be obtained and refined somewhere else. Also, the batteries must be charged off the grid. All those places either use electricity or produce it and we have nowhere near enough nuclear power plants to make a significant difference in emissions.


25 posted on 11/11/2009 6:33:12 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: driftdiver; Red Badger
"And whats wrong with the military-industrial complex?"

In and of itself, nothing; Eisenhower's Farewell Address indicated that it was a necessity, but one that needed to be watched. What most libtards (who love to go around screaming about the "military-industrial complex) fail to acknowledge is that is but one of two phenomena that bore watching and they never mention the second of the two..."the scientific-technological elite."

While Ike probably never heard of "global warming," consider this part of his address in that context:

"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."

26 posted on 11/11/2009 6:35:25 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: longtermmemmory

The energy density in a car gas tank is higher than in the batteries of an electric car.

Just compare the ranges of each.

Both can be dangerous, it is just that we have had 100 years to become accustomed to the dangers of a container of gasoline.

Before that, there was the danger of the kick of an 800 lb mule (or horse/ox/camel, etc.)

Y’all be careful, now! Ya hear?


27 posted on 11/11/2009 6:37:14 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: Blood of Tyrants

There was a pilot on Discovery called “Amp heads” about some biker wanabes who did an electric drag car.

It was all gimick (especially the working on the car with the mechanic wearing a biker leather jacket)

These stories are nonsense.

a puff piece for the church of algore.


28 posted on 11/11/2009 6:38:15 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: driftdiver

Yep. Where would we be without Bell Labs, the British and US versus the German Enigma machine, Texas Instruments and, of course, IBM?


29 posted on 11/11/2009 6:40:48 AM PST by kenth
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To: BwanaNdege

..but now we elect mules for president.


30 posted on 11/11/2009 6:40:59 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Also, the batteries must be charged off the grid.

Perhaps a better phrasing would be: "Also, the batteries must be charged from the grid.", since "off the grid" seems to imply that the batteries are charged "off line"...........

31 posted on 11/11/2009 6:45:29 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Red Badger

Cool!

A coal powered dragster.


32 posted on 11/11/2009 6:55:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Neat car, but the owner seems to not have a grasp on the realities of energy production and distribution in this country. He probably thinks the government has an orchard of money trees to fund all its programs as well.


33 posted on 11/11/2009 6:58:49 AM PST by ThomasSawyer (Democratic Underground: Proof that anyone can figure out how to use a computer.)
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To: Red Badger

The grid is a common term for the electrical distribution system.


34 posted on 11/11/2009 7:03:58 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, I know what you mean, but there are technically challenged people who may not........


35 posted on 11/11/2009 7:14:26 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: thackney

Rudolf Diesel would be proud..............


36 posted on 11/11/2009 7:15:38 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
While Ike probably never heard of "global warming,"

Wrong!

The global warming theory was well known back in the fifties, as this excerpt from Meteora: The Unchained Goddess (1958) demonstrates:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lgzz-L7GFg

The flick, one of a series of educational films sponsored by Bell Labs, was shown on 16mm projectors at school assemblies all across the country.

37 posted on 11/11/2009 7:17:23 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Red Badger; driftdiver; M. Espinola; stephenjohnbanker; All
driftdiver -- 'And whats wrong with the military-industrial complex?"

Answer: They are too greedy and too rich and conspire to suppress mew technologies . . . That very fast electric car was developed in Portland, Oregon

Here is another video that ought to be publicized all over the world. Now that the taxpayers own corrupt GM:

What Happened to This Battery ___ ?

It was suppressed by this famous oil company. Can you guess which one . . . ? Hint: The company name begins with a "C" like the word conspiracy.

Here is another video that ought to be known far and wide:

Why Haven't You Heard of This Water Fueled Car ___ ?

'Big Mystery Again.' This video has been posted on my freeper page for about a year. Who is suppressing this technology when unemployment now is exploding upwards to Great Depression levels . . . ? The same criminals again, perhaps? Or new ones?

I heard a rumor the criminals want to make the car in China and import it into the U.S. Great strategy now that unemployment is reaching the levels of the Great Depression on the 1930's.

Gerald Celente: Real Unemployment Rate 22%. And Will Get Worse

38 posted on 11/11/2009 7:18:46 AM PST by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: cynwoody

OK...I qualified my remarks with “probably,” but that merely reinforces my (and Ike’s) contention that we must be wary of a publicly funded scientific-technological elite overextending its influence in public policy.


39 posted on 11/11/2009 7:23:54 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: cynwoody; Red Badger
This News Report Proves That Gore's 'Global Warming Crisis' is a Total Scam

Algore stole Dr. Revelle's ideas. This scientist was Gore's professor at Harvard. Later Big Al called him 'senile' after the man repudiated Global Warming. Gore saw a way to get rich quick: selling carbon credits.

Oh, by the way, the scientist repudiated his early ideas at the infamous Bohemian Grove conference. Don't know about the BG conference ____ ? Check my freeper page.

40 posted on 11/11/2009 7:38:58 AM PST by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Joe 6-pack
OK...I qualified my remarks with “probably,” but that merely reinforces my (and Ike’s) contention that we must be wary of a publicly funded scientific-technological elite overextending its influence in public policy.

Bell Labs was for sure a key member of the M-I complex.

It's not clear how much influence they chose to exert over the content of their science series. They certainly had the resources to provide technical assistance to the film makers.

But I highly doubt they were trying to influence public policy. They probably just thought a science series was a good idea in the wake of Sputnik and sponsoring it would gain them credit as good corporate citizens.

However, the fact that the AGW theory would show up in such a series indicates it was being kicked around among the knowledgeable people of the era (such as Ike).

41 posted on 11/11/2009 7:49:13 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
"But I highly doubt they were trying to influence public policy. They probably just thought a science series was a good idea in the wake of Sputnik and sponsoring it would gain them credit as good corporate citizens."

If you read Ike's address, it doesn't really differentiate whether or not this influence would be intentional or accidental. Indeed, after Sputnik there was a flood of attention on the sciences in our schools. In the mid-80's went to a Public high school with its own observatory and astronomy program that was a legacy of that era.

Bell may have been well meaning in presenting an AGW theory, but honest scientists would treat it as just that...a theory, and discard or modify it when contrary data came in.

I'm guessing (hoping) you'd agree with me that science is perverted when results are manipulated to forward a socio-political agenda, and that appears to have been a concern that Ike communicated as being every bit the potential hazard as the M-I complex, and one that is conveniently ignored by the left. I think Ike's fears have been substantiated most visibly by today's global warming proponents. That's all I'm saying....

42 posted on 11/11/2009 8:00:55 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ex-Texan; JoeSixPack
Interesting. Roger Revelle must have been the source for the Bell Labs movie.

More from the weather man:

The story begins with an Oceanographer named Roger Revelle. He served with the Navy in World War II. After the war he became the Director of the Scripps Oceanographic Institute in La Jolla in San Diego, California. Revelle obtained major funding from the Navy to do measurements and research on the ocean around the Pacific Atolls where the US military was conducting post war atomic bomb tests. He greatly expanded the Institute's areas of interest and among others hired Hans Suess, a noted Chemist from the University of Chicago. Suess was very interested in the traces of carbon in the environment from the burning of fossil fuels. Revelle co-authored a scientific paper with Suess in 1957—a paper that raised the possibility that the atmospheric carbon dioxide might be creating a greenhouse effect and causing atmospheric warming. The thrust of the paper was a plea for funding for more studies. Funding, frankly, is where Revelle's mind was most of the time.

Next Revelle hired a Geochemist named David Keeling to devise a way to measure the atmospheric content of Carbon dioxide. In 1958 Keeling published his first paper showing the increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and linking the increase to the burning of fossil fuels. These two research papers became the bedrock of the science of global warming, even though they offered no proof that carbon dioxide was in fact a greenhouse gas. In addition they failed to explain how this trace gas, only a tiny fraction of the atmosphere, could have any significant impact on temperatures.


43 posted on 11/11/2009 8:02:00 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Joe 6-pack
I totally agree. Science should never have any agenda beyond doing more and better science.

I'm just saying that, in this instance, I don't think Bell Labs had any agenda beyond doing good for the country and getting credit for it. Little Johnny comes home from school and raves about the cool movie they showed at the assembly, giving his parents the warm and fuzzies towards Bell. And the only reason the AGW theory was presented was that it made the film more interesting.

44 posted on 11/11/2009 8:11:25 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
I don't think Bell did either, and yes, there was a renaissance of science in the late 50's. Bell was most likely sincere in it's presentation of a current theory which (IMHO) has subsequently been shown to not hold water.

What I find fascinating is that nearly all libs will eagerly drop the phrase "military-industrial complex" and a good number even recognize that the phrase was coined by Ike in his farewell address; however, almost to a person, they are at the same time unaware that the M-I complex was but one of two equal cautions that Ike issued. It is the second of these two warnings of which the left remains either intentionally or innocently ignorant, and which they've used extensively to advance their agenda(s)...

45 posted on 11/11/2009 8:19:42 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Red Badger

I find it fascinating that the “government” is not pushing for homes to be “off the grid” via solar roof panels and the like.

Instead they are just finding new brands of chains to keep the slaves in line.


46 posted on 11/11/2009 8:25:26 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ex-Texan

Next up, seasonal change will be blamed on mankind.


47 posted on 11/11/2009 8:30:46 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cynwoody; M. Espinola
Gore is a fraud and knows it, too. That is why he refuses to debate the issue. Also he knows he stole his ideas from his Harvard professor. And was awarded a Nobel Prize for stealing ideas from Revelle.

Algore is a greedy, corrupt political hack.

We can only hope there is a special place in Hell for Algore where demons roast him alive on a spit; then feast on him with glee knowing that they will get to do it again forever. Zero, too, if he signs that global warming treaty in December -- that will turn the U.S. over to a Marxist World Government.

Please check my freeper page for details. The time for waiting at home watching the boob tube is over. We are out of time. The game is nearly over. Obama will destroy the U.S. with one stroke of his pen . . .

48 posted on 11/11/2009 8:39:23 AM PST by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: rstrahan

Wouldn’t that require a charging ampere of 1300?


49 posted on 11/11/2009 8:39:35 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: longtermmemmory

They can’t tax the sun.................


50 posted on 11/11/2009 8:44:09 AM PST by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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