[Mr. K]

After 60 years UNIX (aka linux) still cannot come out of the box and install itself and give a user one double-click access to email

Until it does (which it never will because Linux geeks need to feel so much more superior than everyone else) it will never be THE operating system the world uses.

And I am a software engineer- i KNOW it is superior operating system to windows, technically.

[Moonman62]

Linux has been hovering around 3% market share for years. It makes a good Live CD rescue disk if you can find one that will boot on your machine.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

because Linux geeks need to feel so much more superior than everyone else

Please don't include me in that group....I just prefer to NOT do all the work to keep Malware off of my system and I just enjoy looking at operating systems.....

[Incorrigible]

 

 

[Lee N. Field]

After 60 years UNIX (aka linux)

OK. Whatever.

[kevkrom]

I dunno... I installed Fedora Core 9 (and since upgraded through 10 to 11) with no more hassle than a stock install of Windows XP.

I don’t recall Ubuntu being any more difficult than that.

Now, folks who buy Dells, Gateways, or Apples are used to not doing the install themselves at all (pre-installed Windows or OS X), so this may seem cumbersome, but I don’t see an appreciable difference in the install and “get going” process for any of them.

[calex59]

Well Mr. K, obviously you haven't tried Ubuntu or, better yet(although not touted as loudly as Ubuntu), Mint. Both of these systems install with most of what you need to run, email or anything else, without ever going to a terminal to type unless a person desires to do so. I can run most of the windows aps I can't get for linux(which is not the fault of linux)with wine, play all my old games that I like, run the equivalent of office or, through wine, run office itself.

All of the office docs that I made on XP run just fine in the Open Office of linux, as for a double click to your email right out of the box that is also possible and, in fact, I run the same email on both linux and XP.

Your prejudist of Linux is not due to facts based on modern versions of linux, but on versions that were in existence as few as 2 years ago.

Not only is linux superior technically, it is superior in all ways but one, that one is the fault of software manufacturers not wanting to make progs for linux due to fear of MS retalitation.

Linux is an open source program, it installs ALL of your drivers, sees ALL of your hardware and stuff works when it finishes installing, especially Mint, which, in my opinion, is a better version of Ubuntu.

People don't run linux to feel superior, they run linux because it is virtually virus free, and things work on it, in short people use linux for much the same reasons that apple users use Apple products, to get away from MS and their heavy hand on the computer industry.

[raybbr]

After 60 years UNIX (aka linux) still cannot come out of the box and install itself and give a user one double-click access to email.

Gotta disagree with you there. I just loaded Ubuntu on a box in my basement and was on the internet within five minutes of final installation. It used to have Linux Mint and I overwrote it with Ubuntu.

My kids were playing online video games within an hour.

[papasmurf]

That is just so wrong, on so many levels. lol

ALL distributions of any Debian based .nix (and Debian is the widest in use) come with the Evolution Suite pre-installed. ONE CLICK to start ‘er up, enter your provider’s info, your account info, and your on your way.

Evolution is an Open Source competitor to Microsoft’s Outlook Suite, with full Calendaring, Contacts, Tasks, Collaboration, etc.

Windows Vista and Windows 7 can’t do that, because they don’t even come with an email client (MS wants to suck you into their “Live Mail” bs).

As well, there is a plethora of email clients (and servers) available for FREE, from the “select and run” Software Center or, through the synaptic package manager. Choices. Choices. Choice. FREE. FREE. FREE.

As for the superiority, well, just be glad we aren’t Mac-nuts. LOL

[pyx]

After 60 years UNIX (aka linux) ...

Some more accuracy in this subject area counts. :) Unix "escaped" from AT&T Bell Labs in the 1970's. That would be around 35+ years ago, not 60 years. Linux was released by Linus Torvalds to the USENET newsgroup comp.os.minix in late August 1991. That would be 18 or so years ago, not 60 years.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

After 60 years UNIX (aka linux) still cannot come out of the box and install itself and give a user one double-click access to email

First off, UNIX has only existed for 40 years, and Linux has only existed since 1991.

Second, NO operating system can "install itself". Somebody had to pre-install Windows on the computer you bought or built.

Third, no operating system will give a user one double-click access to email. You have to set up the account, or type in username/password in the case of webmail.

My installation of OpenSuSE 11.1 on this old HP Pavilion took about 25 minutes including updates. No hardware problems. Last time i had to do a fresh install of Windows XP it took me about two hours, and i had to search for/install third party drivers. Incidentally, i LOVED Windows XP, never had a problem with it, not one BSOD.

Any other FUD you wish to distribute this fine morning?

[Knitebane]

After 60 years UNIX (aka linux) still cannot come out of the box and install itself and give a user one double-click access to email

Gee, by that standard there isn't ANY operating system that works.

For instance, here is a FOUR PART TUTORIAL on how to install Windows 7.

That's right. A four part tutorial. On how to install just the OS. Installing an office suite, a decent email client and web browser not to mention all of the addons required to actually put a Windows machine on the Internet (spyware remover, anti-virus, firewall) are NOT part of the FOUR PART TUTORIAL.

On the other hand, I can boot a Live CD of Ubuntu and be on the 'net, browsing web pages, sending email and creating Word documents and PDF files in under 5 minutes.