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MILLION HIT BY 'PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU' Story Image
Daily Express (UK) ^ | Sunday November 15, 2009 | By Greg Miskiw

Posted on 11/17/2009 11:24:05 PM PST by ransomnote

A DEADLY plague could sweep across Europe, doctors fear, after an outbreak of a virus in Ukraine plunged the country and its neighbours into a state of panic.

A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, which it is believed may be far more dangerous than swine flu. The death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected, most of them in the nine regions of Western Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: flu; hit; million; plague; swineflu; ukraine
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1 posted on 11/17/2009 11:24:10 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Bammy and his minions would love to get a hold of this virus and spread it here. An argument for National Health Care.


2 posted on 11/17/2009 11:27:48 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: ransomnote
Captain Trips is alive and well and living in the Ukraine!

Is that Randall Flagg I hear?
"The wind had picked up again, it made strange hooting sound in some empty doorway, and farther away he thought he could hear bootheels pacing off the night, rundown bootheels somewhere in the foothills coming to him on the chilly draft of this early morning breeze. Dirty bootheels clocking their way into the grave of the West."

To the people of the Ukraine on behalf of Randall Flagg I Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin send you greetings!

3 posted on 11/17/2009 11:38:30 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ransomnote

re: death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected

Huh? 189 deaths out of more than a million who’ve gotten the virus? That seems a very small death toll. What am I missing?


4 posted on 11/17/2009 11:48:04 PM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: ransomnote

If you do the math, the death toll is extremely low, .0189%


5 posted on 11/17/2009 11:50:14 PM PST by dawn53
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To: ransomnote

189 in a million would be a death rate of about of one in five hundred or 0.2%. Is that high for a normal flu?

I’m very suspicious of this story as it seems to have been flogged by a Ukrainian premier that is running behind in the polls.


6 posted on 11/17/2009 11:54:19 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ransomnote

Thinning the herd...


7 posted on 11/17/2009 11:56:25 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: ModelBreaker

Oops. About 0.002%. Much smaller.


8 posted on 11/17/2009 11:57:32 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

It’s hard to tell how reliable this information is. The fact that Victor Yuschenko is flogging this actually gave me pause because he doesn’t seem to scare easily - he was the one poisoned by rivals during the election.


9 posted on 11/17/2009 11:59:46 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: dawn53
Do the math, even if it doesn't kill can you imagine what would happen to a country's social, business, and governmental infrastructure if suddenly say 5% of your population came down with a such a serve form of the flu with one third needing to be hospitialized?
The real thing though that concerns me is it seems that a large precentage of the deaths seem to be medical professionals, if true that would put 'another monkey in the wrench'.
10 posted on 11/18/2009 12:00:11 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: jwparkerjr

if every many woman and child in the United States got infected then around 50,000+ people would die...or roughly 2.5 times the amount that die each year from the flu already.


11 posted on 11/18/2009 12:19:55 AM PST by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: ransomnote

“The fact that Victor Yuschenko is flogging this actually gave me pause because he doesn’t seem to scare easily - he was the one poisoned by rivals during the election.”

Perhaps. But he’s a politician and losing power often seems worse than death. And I’m not saying he’s scared. To the contrary, I’m saying it sounds like a guy cynically turning a molehill into a mountain to close a big gap in the polls (which he is doing successfully).


12 posted on 11/18/2009 12:39:06 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ransomnote

If this virus is so bad, why has WHO stated it’s no different than the H1N1 virus?

Let’s be sure we don’t spread rumors. There are plenty of reasons why the H1N1 virus is apparently hitting the Ukraine harder than anybody else: bad health administration bad government, political intrigue. The last thing we need to do is spread panic.

ex animo
davidfarrar


13 posted on 11/18/2009 2:35:55 AM PST by DavidFarrar (davidfarrar)
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To: ModelBreaker

And “elections may have to be canceled”, according to the story - simpily not letting a good crisis go to waste. More Hussein think spreading around the world, as it slowly turns back into countries ruled by tyrants.


14 posted on 11/18/2009 2:48:26 AM PST by PIF
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To: jwparkerjr

A doctor in Western Ukraine who did not want to be named, said:” We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal.

“They look like they have been burned. It’s terrifying.”


This seems rather odd. I would think it is more likely these victims were coal miners.


15 posted on 11/18/2009 2:57:54 AM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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To: 1776 Reborn

re: likely these victims were coal miners

And smokers.

The state of journalism these days is so bad that it’s hard to believe anything you read, see or hear. It seems like every journalist, or source, has their own pet belief and report only things that will further that project.


16 posted on 11/18/2009 4:12:32 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: jwparkerjr

I thought I saw another story trying to tie this in with the Spanish Flu of 1918 but I didn’t note that in this article.


17 posted on 11/18/2009 4:31:17 AM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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To: ransomnote

Well it’s so bad that they are thinking of cancelling elections! WoW! Imagine that?


18 posted on 11/18/2009 4:59:40 AM PST by classified
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To: classified
The real test will be where the flu is in the spring. If you recall, we first started hearing about swine flu in the spring of 09. Thanks to summer break, the flu pretty much stayed out of the news. But as soon as school started, wham! West Michigan has been hit hard by it. In one week alone, 51 schools were closed due to H1N1. What week was that? Right before Halloween. And what follows Halloween every year?

Election day.

If this flu breaks out of Western Europe and heads over to NA, it is entirely possible the same spread scenario will happen. How big is the election 2010? HUGE.

If Obama's numbers continue to slide, and this new flu hits the states next fall, do not be surprised if the election is postponed.

19 posted on 11/18/2009 5:09:13 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: rintense
Same goes for the Presidential election. There will be some sort of created catastrophe during 2012!
20 posted on 11/18/2009 5:51:16 AM PST by classified
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To: ransomnote

I’m rather sick of the ‘panic and hysteria’ propaganda lately.


21 posted on 11/18/2009 9:15:56 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: DavidFarrar

I don’t feel that I am spreading panic but I understand your concern.
I am not interested in receiving the H1N1 vaccine and am generally rather skeptical of the stress around swine flu so when I read this I was skeptical - it seems like ‘flu of the month’ time. I hadn’t really imagined the virus necessarily affecting the US as this is the Ukraine but situations that affect swaths of the economy in Europe, even if it turns out to be pointless panic, is of interest to me and that is why I posted it.
Another feature of the article that caught my attention was that it is said to be composed, uniquely, of 3 viral strains. The last time I read of a ‘uniquely combined flu strain a poster had commented that odd, never before seen combinations of flu viruses can indicate the presence of of a manufactured virus and so, when I read this article, I wondered if Kremlin intrigue was in play.


22 posted on 11/18/2009 9:41:20 AM PST by ransomnote
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To: Dallas59

All he needs to do is keep the country’s borders and airports wide open and it will spread to North America. It won’t bother him or any of our political leaders at all. Diversity is our strength, you see. Closing off the country to areas of a deadly virus would be undiversified and politically incorrect. We must die for the elite’s stinking and lowly ideals of death.


23 posted on 11/18/2009 5:25:51 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: jwparkerjr; ransomnote; ModelBreaker; dawn53
If anyone is interested there is a large long messagethread about this epidemic in Ukraine. Below is a link to the first report of the Ukraine H1N1 flu outbreak on Free Republic; that messagethread is currently 4 pages long, and may be of interest to somem as it contains direct links to many dozens of articles about this outbreak, from ever since articles began to start to appear in the Western press.

SHOCK! Epidemic of pneumonic plague in Ukraine? (updated at 05:39 pm)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2374394/posts

24 posted on 11/19/2009 8:16:35 AM PST by hennie pennie
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