Posted on 11/22/2009 8:22:40 PM PST by Justaham
In the wake of Saturday's Senate vote to move forward with debate on controversial healthcare reform legislation, CNN's John King may have posed one of the best questions asked on any of Sunday's political talk shows:
To get Senator [Mary] Landrieu's vote, just to proceed, just to go across the starting line, language was inserted in the bill that gives her state up to $300 million. To get Senator [Ben] Nelson's vote, [Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid] agreed to drop a request that you take away the antitrust exemptions for insurance companies...[Is healthcare reform] important enough to buy votes?
This marvelous question was asked on Sunday's "State of the Union." In attendance were Democrat Senators Sherrod Brown of Ohio, Michael Bennet of Colorado, and Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire.
Better still, King pointed a finger at President Obama who promised during the campaign "to change the way Washington works" (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, h/t Breitbart TV):
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CNN’s John King, a (Democrat) reporter who shows a bit of integrity?!
Lord bless him!
Landrieu only gets hers if the bill passes, Nelson wins either way.
Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?
Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."
That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?
Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.
Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.
Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.
TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393
So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."
HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.
I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.
Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin
Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right
Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal
To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right
OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH
Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy
Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)
Someone who would steal $300 million in bribe money is capable of doing much uglier things. Stone cold sociopath.
. . .why is it; how is it; that they can pass this; imposing this upon an entire nation without first requiring the names of those who are writing it. ..signing it to be held to same Government care? This shoud be included in the very first lines of this Bill. It IS a treason by many accounts; but certainly it is, for these Dems; this Congress to have their names on this Bill for the rest of 'our' history; and yet they are forever exempt from it's curse.
This is a politcal jihad against America. Pelosi, Reid. ..leading the charge. Obama, Inc. and dark forces behind them who fight with them and against us. Feels like an absolute damnation. Can only hope and pray the 'forces of Light' prevail. . .and that these traitors meet their full punishment in this world, as well as, the next.
Am sure addition monies for the TARP now Democratic slush fund will find other ‘hands’ as well. And gives you a clue; as to how much money the Dems will have in ‘stash’ should they pass another ‘stimulus plan’ through. Our taxes going to what is really, a frickin fund to guarantee Democratic power holding on to the imbalance of power. . .if even from their retirement; or their grave.
I fully agree with everything you said. Glowbull Warming has just detonated from within so keep that faith strong. These commies will be routed on all fronts. Push back, always push back.
did you see their look.....they didn’t know what to say....I bet he got yelled at, asking a legit question to a democrat....they were supposed to be safe on CNN........they looked like they got hit in the face with a bat
At least we know what the starting price is for a whore in the Senate.
Senator Brown said the bribe of Landrieu was ethical. Nice. So now bribery is ethical according to libs. This country is so screwed.
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