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My 102 year old grandma got her Census mailing.
vanity | 11/27/09 | vanity

Posted on 11/27/2009 5:24:12 PM PST by Winstons Julia

My 102 year old grandma has received two mailings from the Census Bureau. The envelope says she is required by law to answer the questions.

It's a huge booklet.

They are asking about her income. Does she get any from rental properties? How far does she drive to work?

I was stupefied at the financial questions asked.

What legal rights does she have? This reads like an invasive thing.

I thought they were just supposed to count us?

Should we go to the local congressman and complain?

Anyone?

I haven't received ANYTHING from the Census yet, and I'm in the same county.


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What is going on? This is much more than a body count.
1 posted on 11/27/2009 5:24:15 PM PST by Winstons Julia
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To: Winstons Julia

I never fill out my census forms except for my name and how many people are living in the house. They already have my address.


2 posted on 11/27/2009 5:27:24 PM PST by peggybac
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To: Winstons Julia
Sounds like identity theft to me.
3 posted on 11/27/2009 5:27:34 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Winstons Julia

The simplest way to f*** up the intrusion is to answer the questions about name and age of each occupant of the residence. With respect to all the other questions, answer no and for income answer $18,122.65 which is the minimum wage. If everyone did this, the Bureau of the Census would only be able to count people for the apportionment of seats in the House of Representative which is all they should be authorized to do.


4 posted on 11/27/2009 5:28:31 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (A village in Kenya is missing its idiot.)
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To: Winstons Julia

In your grandma’s case, what are they going to do? Prosecute a 102 year old?

But for the rest of us, from what I’ve read, we’re pretty screwed. Ignore the forms or refuse to answer to an in-person census-taker, and at least some of us will go to jail.


5 posted on 11/27/2009 5:28:39 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: Winstons Julia
"Required by law" ?
The census is mandated by the constitution but participation isn't. If the package didn't come by registered or certified mail with a return signature required, throw it away.
6 posted on 11/27/2009 5:28:44 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Winstons Julia

They are going to use it to set new congressional districts. They will also list the GPS coordinates of her front door.


7 posted on 11/27/2009 5:29:06 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Winstons Julia
I would advise her to do the same as I will if I get such an "intrusive" questionnaire: Throw it in the trash can.

What are they going to do? Put a 102 year old granny in Jail?

Now would that not make front page all over the country and be a nice black mark on the entire census, nanny-statist, bureaucracy? lol

PS: Me, I'm only 66, but still willing to tell them to go ahead, make my day and charge me with whatever.

8 posted on 11/27/2009 5:29:08 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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CALL the census bureau and ask them why it so intrusive...and two?...maybe it's a scam.
9 posted on 11/27/2009 5:29:13 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Winstons Julia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XtuPvwBa2U

This should help Grandma in answering the form.


10 posted on 11/27/2009 5:30:59 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Winstons Julia

Fill in the number of people at the residence.

For every other question, write:

“My answer is the Fifth Amendment.”

You will therefore have legally answered each question. It will not be the answer they were expecting, but it is your honest answer. You aren’t NOT answering the question, and you are not lying.


11 posted on 11/27/2009 5:30:59 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Winstons Julia

They send long forms to a % of the population...I have to say seeing the Obama administration is out to off Grandma I would not let them know where I am


12 posted on 11/27/2009 5:31:12 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

10 years ago I never received my envelope. They sent someone out to my house.

I refused to answer his questions despite threats of a $500 fine. Told him how many people lived there.


13 posted on 11/27/2009 5:31:29 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Winstons Julia

For the 2000 census I received the supplemental forms. I wrote rude remarks on the forms with red markers and sent them back.

I had three subsequent personal visits by census workers. The first two I was curt and direct and told them to leave.

The third time I answered my door with a Mossberg 500 shotgun in hand. They quickly left and never bothered me again.

True story.


14 posted on 11/27/2009 5:31:50 PM PST by Eagle Eye (3%)
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To: Winstons Julia

According the to the Census site the regular census is strictly short form now. But there’s another yearly survey, sent selectively, with the same legal requirements and with many more questions.


15 posted on 11/27/2009 5:32:34 PM PST by decimon
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To: Doogle

Its probably not a scam, they have been planning this for a while and the White House is in charge of it. Assuming its actually from the census bureau.


16 posted on 11/27/2009 5:32:58 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Winstons Julia

I haven’t filled out a census form since 1980 and then blacked out any identifying information on the form and put in only generic demographic answers for my family. Since then I flatly refuse to comply. In 2000 the census taker stalked me - but I successfully avoided her.

The Constitution says “enumerate” - to count ... enumerate does not mean to identify by name or intrusively insist upon revealing very personal information.

If a census worker shows up on my porch - I will run him or her off my property... I have an 880 foot drive way - so this should help keep them away.

I haven’t received any forms in the mail yet.

Since the census in now in the hands of the Obama Administration - I flatly refuse to cooperate.


17 posted on 11/27/2009 5:33:12 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: Winstons Julia

Tell them to go f*** themselves.


18 posted on 11/27/2009 5:33:45 PM PST by rickmichaels
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To: driftdiver; All

Here’s what I’m thinking. I’m thinking I rent or borrow a camcorder and we make a video. We talk about what the ten-year census is supposed to do.

We look at all the questions on grandma’s form (this appears to be an official mailing).

We head to the congressman’s office WITH the video running and we ask him why she is having to answer all of these questions.

There is a number on the envelope she can call for help.

I seriously was just FLABBERGASTED today when I was skimming through this huge mailer.


19 posted on 11/27/2009 5:35:52 PM PST by Winstons Julia (The liberal mantra: Never enough.)
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To: peggybac

Neil Boortz talks about his experience with a census worker. He told the guy he’s only required by the constitution to count himself.


20 posted on 11/27/2009 5:36:03 PM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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