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Speak Now, Tiger, Or Forever Hold Your Peace
NBCSports ^ | November 28th 2009

Posted on 11/28/2009 9:20:17 PM PST by Steelfish

Speak Now, Tiger, Or Forever Hold Your Peace Golfer must speak publicly about car crash — and rumors of Uchitel affair

Courtney Hazlett

When Tiger Woods got in the car just before 2:25 a.m. Friday, he didn’t just crash into a fire hydrant. He had a head-on collision with another object: the invisible bowels of the bad-publicity machine, which in more than 13 years of professional golf, he’d been able to avoid.

As a college athlete in the mid-1990s, my circle overlapped with Woods’ from time to time, and I can attest there are plenty of stories about a slightly awkward Stanford golfprodigy that could be filed under “typical college kid behavior,” or twisted into tabloid fodder.

As a fledgling journalist at Golf World magazine in the early 2000s, I can attest to similar stories of the youngest golfer to achieve a career grand slam behaving in a way that might have looked bad on paper.

But these stories never really materialized. Thrown clubs and the errant F-bombs were chalked up to pressures of the sport and apologies followed. So why has an accident in the driveway turned into a full-blown train wreck? Because much like a guy named David Letterman, up until now Woods’ public life and private persona have had few intersections, and the former has been for the most part, unimpeachable.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Sports
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1 posted on 11/28/2009 9:20:18 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
No he don’t, he doesn’t even need to talk to the cops about it.
2 posted on 11/28/2009 9:26:48 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

No matter what Tiger did, his wife didn’t have the right to do what she did to hurt him physcially and should be prosecuted for it even if Tiger doesn’t want to press charges.


3 posted on 11/28/2009 9:30:00 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
“No matter what Tiger did, his wife didn’t have the right to do what she did to hurt him physcially “

Just out of curiosity, are you married?

4 posted on 11/28/2009 9:32:09 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: MinorityRepublican

Really, and you know what his wife did, were you there??


5 posted on 11/28/2009 9:32:40 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish

I just keep wondering - why does he need to do anything about a relatively minor fender bender? It isn’t like he was caught with an underage girl, drugs or breaking into someone’s house. They’ve even said alcohol wasn’t a factor. As far as I know, we can all leave our homes in our vehicles, at whatever time we wish, for whatever reason. If it was an argument between husband and wife, whatever. I don’t care.

And if there is an affair, it’s still their business. Sad, but private. Tiger Woods owes me no explanation about what is going on in his marriage.


6 posted on 11/28/2009 9:32:52 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: SmokingJoe

No.


7 posted on 11/28/2009 9:33:38 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SmokingJoe

No.


8 posted on 11/28/2009 9:33:44 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: org.whodat

I agree with you. It’s nobody’s business but his.


9 posted on 11/28/2009 9:33:48 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ok.


10 posted on 11/28/2009 9:34:06 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: org.whodat
No he don’t, he doesn’t even need to talk to the cops about it.

True, but then again this man is "famous" and famous people (like Mel Gibson, Eddie Murphy, David Letterman, et al) are scrutinized by the tabloid news (otherwise known as the MSM or mainstream media) by unrelenting reporters. Since they don't report "real" news, entertainment news is their specialty these days (there's certainly nothing negative about this administration, thus Tiger, with his model wife and mansion fit their new "news" profile perfectly.

11 posted on 11/28/2009 9:34:24 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Steelfish

TIGER IS ABOUT TO FEEL THE OBAMA MANTRA ON HIS SKIN, BIGTIME!

HEY TIGER, HERE COMES REDISTRIBUTION OF YOUR WEALTH.

I SAY 1 MONTH FROM NOW, YOU WILL BE HEARING OF A DIVORCE AND THE MAJOR REDISTRIBUTION OF TIGERS WEALTH TO THE VIKING LADY.


12 posted on 11/28/2009 9:34:44 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: ktscarlett66
And if there is an affair, it’s still their business. Sad, but private. Tiger Woods owes me no explanation about what is going on in his marriage.

Nailed it, I'm not the kind of person that wants to look at people dirty underwear either.

13 posted on 11/28/2009 9:34:57 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

He may not talk to the police. But the police now have the right to press charges against his wife.


14 posted on 11/28/2009 9:35:40 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s too bad spouses can’t also sue for emotional pain as well. Or that they can’t be prosecuted. Emotional pain (caused by such things as finding out about an affair) is worse than a scratch on the face. In its own way, it’s an assault as well.


15 posted on 11/28/2009 9:36:05 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: ktscarlett66

I suspect the reckless destruction of public property (water hydrant) makes for the public inquiry as to the causes that led to the incident.


16 posted on 11/28/2009 9:36:05 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: org.whodat

I agree, he doesn’t owe anyone an explanation. If he chooses to give one...so be it.


17 posted on 11/28/2009 9:36:10 PM PST by MGUNZ
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To: Steelfish
As a fledgling journalist at Golf World magazine in the early 2000s, I can attest to similar stories of the youngest golfer to achieve a career grand slam behaving in a way that might have looked bad on paper. But these stories never really materialized.

"But now that Tiger has had his first really-big tabloid blowup, I'm willing to pile on along with everybody else."

18 posted on 11/28/2009 9:36:16 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: BunnySlippers

No they don’t, no witness, and they cannot talk to her without an attorney, end of case.


19 posted on 11/28/2009 9:37:11 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: SmokingJoe

What do you say to a woman with two black eyes? s/


20 posted on 11/28/2009 9:37:49 PM PST by unkus
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To: Steelfish

I don’t blame him for not talking to the cops.
Nothing he says will help him, and anything he says can hurt him.


21 posted on 11/28/2009 9:37:54 PM PST by WackySam (To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.)
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To: ktscarlett66

The police can now file spousal abuse charges without either one of the couple pressing charges. I think this change sprang from women refusing to press charges when beaten.


22 posted on 11/28/2009 9:38:20 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Steelfish

Fire hydrants get hit all the time in car accidents. Is it really considered ‘reckless’? (And I’m not being a smart*ss, just wondering.) What about road signs or telephone poles that are wiped out and have to be replaced? I’ve never known anyone to be charged in regards to those. You just made me think about them.


23 posted on 11/28/2009 9:39:11 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: org.whodat

Forensics can prove whether his injuries were from a car accident ... or from being beaten with a gold club at another location.


24 posted on 11/28/2009 9:39:27 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: ktscarlett66

The law said nothing about causing emotional damage. Whatever Tiger did is between him and his wife. It is not our business. The law is only interested in that Tiger’s wife physically assaulted him.


25 posted on 11/28/2009 9:39:33 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: TheDailyChange

In a year, all the idiots with a lot of money will definately have buyer’s remourse for having voted for 0bama. But, I don’t think Tiger voted for the evil bastard.


26 posted on 11/28/2009 9:40:27 PM PST by unkus
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To: Steelfish
LOL, what destruction, I would bet money the things have already been fixed.
27 posted on 11/28/2009 9:40:27 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish

Sounds like Tiger is in need of some HOPE and CHANGE.


28 posted on 11/28/2009 9:40:40 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: Steelfish
So writes Courtney Hazlett

As a retired writer/columnist/editor, this trite little "Look at me, I know Tiger!" gal trying to capitalize on someone else's bad times, would have the editor's red pen all over her bitc*y face.

She should apply for a spot on The View.

" must speak publicly about car crash — and rumors of Uchitel affair ..." so says Courtney.

To which I say: "Why?"

Whose business is HIS private business?

OMG!. He once swore! He's thrown his golf clubs down before! Well that does it. I thought because he's such a flawless golfer, he's also a flawless person. s/

Tiger is a golfer. The only thing that is any of our concern is how he plays his game. He owes us nothing as far as his personal life is concerned.

So "he must speak publicly", eh Courtney? Maybe you should do the opposite, before people think of you as an


29 posted on 11/28/2009 9:42:12 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: org.whodat

Not so. This change happened when women refused to press charges against abusive husbands.

The police can now prove whether the wounds were inflicted from the accident in the vehicle or from another weapon [a gold club] some where else. Tiger and his wife are trying to stave this off.


30 posted on 11/28/2009 9:43:08 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Yeah, I know. The state brings the charges, to lessen the ‘you had me arrested’ factor. But I’ll betcha my firstborn, they won’t press charges against her for some scratches on his face. No wait, my secondborn. He’s been more of a handful, lol.


31 posted on 11/28/2009 9:43:18 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: BunnySlippers

LOL, are you in law enforcement, if so there is something called the fifth. Mr woods is not required to provide physical evidence to anyone about himself are his wife and since no one saw him in the car they cannot prove he was driving it.


32 posted on 11/28/2009 9:44:07 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: MinorityRepublican

Is the law really interested in it? Or just the salacious general public?


33 posted on 11/28/2009 9:44:10 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: ktscarlett66

“What about road signs or telephone poles that are wiped out and have to be replaced?”

You are liable for them. You are billed for their replacement if it is required. I know this to be true in at least two states.


34 posted on 11/28/2009 9:44:17 PM PST by jessduntno (Take a minute and watch it: http://www.youtube.com./watch?v=uoeuh-EGj7s)
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To: unkus

HI!!!


35 posted on 11/28/2009 9:44:58 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: MinorityRepublican
Send the ACLU a Christmas card this year.. Make sure it says CHRISTMAS

There is an email going around and there will be tens of thousands (HOPEFULLY) dumped on their office this Christmas season.

They WILL open them because a lot of their mail is donations.

Take up their time and give them a massive headache

I just printed off an 8x10 MERRY CHRISTMAS Celebrate the Birthday of Our LORD JESUS and put it into a standard #10 business envelope so it wouldn't look like a card. I also used a security envelope so they couldn't see through and know there wasn't a check.

I suggest passing this great idea to EVERYONE in your email friends list... make this a CHRISTMAS the ACLU will never forget!

Their Address
ACLU
125 BROAD STREET
18th Floor
NEW YORK, NY 10004

36 posted on 11/28/2009 9:45:04 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Steelfish

Must be nice to be able to hit a fire Hydrant and a tree at 3am and not even have to talk to the Cops.

Some are more equal than others.


37 posted on 11/28/2009 9:45:37 PM PST by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

And I didn’t say she COULD press charges against him. I know the law doesn’t allow it. I said they should be able to.


38 posted on 11/28/2009 9:45:46 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: org.whodat

I know you are a fan. But law enforcement can press charges for spousal abuse.

Having said that, I do NOT thing this will go anywhere. After all, it’s Tiger Woods.


39 posted on 11/28/2009 9:47:13 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Steelfish

Who the hell names their kid Tiger anyways?


40 posted on 11/28/2009 9:48:01 PM PST by kik5150
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To: Steelfish

Sports radio dubbed the affair, “The Tiger meets the Cougar”


41 posted on 11/28/2009 9:48:05 PM PST by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: ktscarlett66

Pressing criminal charges on someone for “emotional” issues has got to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on this forum to date.


42 posted on 11/28/2009 9:48:06 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: maine-iac7

Wow- that’s an amazing end pic!


43 posted on 11/28/2009 9:48:27 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: jessduntno
You are liable for them. You are billed for their replacement if it is required. I know this to be true in at least two states.

Damn, there goes the old ball game, guess I'll need to loan Tiger some money to fix that stuff. LOL

44 posted on 11/28/2009 9:49:36 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

No, the correct answer is: “You didn’t listen the first time, did you”?

Just a joke-no offense meant.


45 posted on 11/28/2009 9:49:50 PM PST by unkus
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To: Steelfish
Let's add some all important perspective.


46 posted on 11/28/2009 9:50:15 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: ktscarlett66

You run with good people. I’ve been charged for guardrail posts, and friends have paid for telephone poles. If they can connect your negligence to the damage, the state or the utility will bill you or your insurance.


47 posted on 11/28/2009 9:50:41 PM PST by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: kik5150

Said the same thing about “Sitting Bull”.


48 posted on 11/28/2009 9:51:17 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: kik5150
Who the hell names their kid Tiger anyways?

His real name was Eldrick - Tiger was a nickname.

A few years ago he changed it to Tiger permanently.

Some people have nicknames like that where it becomes their real name, like Earvin "Magic" Johnson for example.

49 posted on 11/28/2009 9:52:36 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: jessduntno

Really!! I just learned something. I figured my tax dollars already paid for signs through DOT, since they belonged to me, I could wipe ‘em out at will! (j/k) It was something I never thought about until tonight.

My sister had an accident this week, run off the road by some Amish kids (true). The guy whose mailbox went through her windshield was mad that it wasn’t replaced the next morning. He’s called her 28 times in 4 days about it.


50 posted on 11/28/2009 9:52:54 PM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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