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Russia Admits Failed Missile Launch Caused 'UFO' Lights In Norway
tpmlivewire ^ | December 10, 2009, | Jillian Rayfield

Posted on 12/10/2009 11:30:18 AM PST by JoeProBono

Turns out they're not "out there" after all. Those UFO sighting in Norway this morning weren't actually UFOs -- just a Russian missile test gone wrong.

The Russian Defense Ministry admitted today that its Bulava intercontinental missile failed a test launch, following reports of unusual lights in Norway that caused an influx of UFO sightings.

Russia's submarine-based Bulava (Mace), which is designed to carry multiple warheads up to 5,000 miles, failed its 13th test launch, something Alexander Khramchikhin, chief analyst at the Institute of Military and Political Analysis in Moscow, called "a catastrophe."

"Billions of dollars have been flushed down the drain," he reportedly said.

A Defense Ministry spokesman said in a statement that the missile failed in its third stage, which caused an odd swirling light to appear to Norwegian scientists observing the area near the White Sea.

Truls Lynne Hansen, head of Troms Geophysical Observatory in Norway, said that missile launches are commonly observed from Russia, but "normally we see the second stage of the rocket burning then it disappears. This was something very unusual."

Tandberg also commented on the influx of calls claiming a UFO sighting: "I think it was clear to most people that it was not a UFO, as most people define a UFO. Of course everything is a UFO until you know what it is. But most people think about UFOs as aliens and things like that, that was something that came up very early but not later."


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: bulava; christianright; icbm; jpb; missile; norway; oops; russia; spiral; ufo; vodka

1 posted on 12/10/2009 11:30:20 AM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

So, the blue-green light is a laser tracker iliuminated in the debris trail?


2 posted on 12/10/2009 11:32:30 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: JoeProBono

It were mahty purty;)


3 posted on 12/10/2009 11:33:07 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: JoeProBono

Crazy Ruskies, blowing up rockets for light shows. Just use lasers like we do!


4 posted on 12/10/2009 11:33:34 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: JoeProBono
If one were trying to spread a biological agent one could scarcely do a better job of evenly distributing it than that spiral.

Just sayin'...

5 posted on 12/10/2009 11:34:30 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 323 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: JoeProBono
What I thought was funny was the line in the articles that stated that the Russians denied shooting off a missile, so people couldn't figure out what it was.

Explains perfectly why people are continually surprised over Obama. It's like Madelaine Albright out in front of the Clinton White House saying, “The president has assured me that the sexual allegations are all false”.

There's a line in the old Cary Grant film Charade referring to a senior diplomat that goes, “Well, if I bluffed the old man out of the pot with a pair of deuces, what are the Russians doing to him?”

6 posted on 12/10/2009 11:38:35 AM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: JoeProBono

BEE ESS


7 posted on 12/10/2009 11:42:32 AM PST by Check6 (Our government is intentionally killing our country.)
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To: sodpoodle

8 posted on 12/10/2009 11:43:28 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mysterio

9 posted on 12/10/2009 11:51:42 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Check6

10 posted on 12/10/2009 11:54:03 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

11 posted on 12/10/2009 11:55:39 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
This is a good visual model and description of what actually happened.
12 posted on 12/10/2009 11:57:22 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: JoeProBono

Ummm..., I would still check it out, Scully and Mulder... :-)


13 posted on 12/10/2009 11:58:02 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Talisker

110,000+ views on youtube - zero comments.

That works for me;)

thx


14 posted on 12/10/2009 12:05:52 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: Talisker; Star Traveler; Daffynition
"This is a good visual model and description of what actually happened."


15 posted on 12/10/2009 12:15:18 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Jewbacca

It appears you were correct.


16 posted on 12/10/2009 12:19:31 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; txhurl; 21twelve; silverleaf; Mr. Jeeves; Reaganesque; Jeremiah Jr; freema; ...

Truth on FR first!


17 posted on 12/10/2009 12:41:13 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: JoeProBono; All; Quix
Uh, um...

Can someone explain the physics to me (citing an equation or two would be fine) of how that background spiral vortex was created by the failure of the missle whose perpendicular cork screw "contrail" is presumably but inexplicably illuminated in blue?


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18 posted on 12/10/2009 12:48:26 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian
"Can someone explain the physics to me"

Sure. It's sorta like animal magnetism


19 posted on 12/10/2009 12:54:03 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: The Comedian

Yeah. I’m still skeptical.

Not convinced by any of fhe explanations so far.


20 posted on 12/10/2009 1:00:55 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED)
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To: JoeProBono
Lol, exactly.

I'm shocked, shocked to find that it wasn't space monsters.
21 posted on 12/10/2009 1:01:17 PM PST by mysterio
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To: The Comedian

Imagine a pinwheel in space.

As it turns it ejects material outward, by the time it has made a full revolution the bit that it first ejected at that angle has travelled away from the center, and it adds a new bit in that direction.
Next revolution, there are two bits away from the center, one further than the other.
Next revolution, three bits evenly spaced and so on.

In the vacuum of space you get a perfect spiral.

To me it looks like the engine was a little off center, and the missile travelled a corkscrew path trying to correct, ending when the nozzle jammed hard over.

YMMV


22 posted on 12/10/2009 1:02:26 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 323 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: JoeProBono

Is the blue thingy pointing to where 0bama was lying in a manger?


23 posted on 12/10/2009 1:13:04 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: JoeProBono

Just the Russians doing their part to add to the “Peace Prize” celebrations!


24 posted on 12/10/2009 1:20:25 PM PST by In Maryland ("Impromptu Obamanomics is getting scarier by the day ..." - Caroline Baum)
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To: null and void

It’s even easier than that. The missle flies in cork screw of the same diameter each rotation.

The “pin wheel” effect is caused by the force perspective of the rocket flying away from the viewer.

(That is, the loops closer look bigger and the loops farther away look smaller.)


25 posted on 12/10/2009 1:23:24 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: null and void
OK, I see what you mean.

That makes sense if the image is basically a time exposure capturing every event from launch to expiration of the booster(s) of all stages.

You're asserting, though, that this crazy-a$$ missle's trajectory, spinning like a top, actually made it into low earth orbit where gravity didn't deform the perfectly circular spiral swirl resulting when the nozzle locked hard to one side and expended the remainder of its fuel, right?

Seems a miracle that it made it into space, considering the deformation of flight path apparent from lift off onward. Also, there is no downward drift to the background spiral which one would expect if the expelling body was still in motion, either following a sub-orbital trajectory, or falling to earth.


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Pulling this trigger takes 2.
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26 posted on 12/10/2009 1:39:08 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian
where gravity didn't deform the perfectly circular spiral swirl

The lack of deformation of the pattern is where I balk too. Growing up in southern california we viewed *lots* of rocket and missile trails from Vandenburg AFB and none ever came even close to maintaining a shape for more than an instant.

If someone wants to propose that this still image was taken at the most incredibly opportune instant then I could maybe buy it after having seen the youtube explanation, etc. But I'm still having trouble accepting this completely. It just seems too perfect over too long a time. But....?

27 posted on 12/10/2009 1:49:31 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: JoeProBono

Epic Fail.


28 posted on 12/10/2009 2:10:29 PM PST by Pharsalus
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To: JoeProBono

I like my momentary rip in the space-time continuum theory better. :-)


29 posted on 12/10/2009 2:16:43 PM PST by OB1kNOb (All FReepers need to pray Psalms 109:8 daily for Barack Obama. (Look it up. I'm serious.))
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To: paulycy

It does deform, with the larger (earlier and closer) loops blowing away.


30 posted on 12/10/2009 2:19:54 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: OB1kNOb
"I like my momentary rip in the space-time continuum theory better"


31 posted on 12/10/2009 2:25:54 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Pharsalus

32 posted on 12/10/2009 2:29:46 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Jewbacca
It does deform, with the larger (earlier and closer) loops blowing away.

Interesting things do happen.

The best thing about this is posting the dopey pictures. That's fun!


33 posted on 12/10/2009 2:36:18 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: paulycy; The Comedian

*shrug* The contortions of the smoke trails at Vandeland are due to high altitude winds.

I recall watching one during the boost phase and it formed a perfect cone once it left the atmosphere, so much so that for a moment I thought it was the diverging beam of a spotlight.

No idea what it would have looked like from something close to directly behind.

I read somewhere that this is a timed exposure, dunno if that is accurate, but if it is the longer exposure should have blurred the spiral into a featureless disc.

As for The Comedian’s excellent point about the pinwheel not being distorted by the down range motion of the missile?

Good point. The only way I can save my beautiful theory from ugly facts is to insist that all the spinning happened over a very short time...


34 posted on 12/10/2009 2:49:41 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 323 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: paulycy; The Comedian
Glenn Beck is going to cover it.

Showed a video, took about 10-15 seconds for the spiral to form.

Yet another beautiful theory ruined by ugly facts.

*grumble* *grumble* *grumble* *grumble*

35 posted on 12/10/2009 2:57:58 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 323 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void
Good point. The only way I can save my beautiful theory from ugly facts is to insist that all the spinning happened over a very short time...

Just this moment Glenn Beck showed the video. It doesn't look so well-formed in the video. That's why I think the still image has been doctored, very expertly perhaps but it's so perfect that it just doesn't seem "natural" even for a rocket launch.

36 posted on 12/10/2009 2:58:33 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: Jewbacca

The video shows it forming from the middle.


37 posted on 12/10/2009 3:03:22 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 323 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: JoeProBono

This could be another “Staged Failure” by the Russians to cover up their Bulva program and keep it out of arms control treaties. Also, by firing it over Norway, Russia was sending a message to Obama


38 posted on 12/10/2009 3:18:49 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: null and void; The Comedian
GIZMODO had this explanation earlier today......

http://gizmodo.com/5422792/this-is-how-the-mysterious-giant-spiral-happened


39 posted on 12/10/2009 4:07:48 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: JoeProBono

40 posted on 12/10/2009 4:08:51 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Bulava intercontinental missile failed a test launch

41 posted on 12/10/2009 4:22:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: JoeProBono

Another “Black Screen of Death” story.


42 posted on 12/10/2009 4:32:06 PM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: Thunder90

So where are the “successful” tests and what is their ratio to “failed” ones?

You seem to know very little about how systems development in aerospace works, based on the pattern of your assertions.

You don’t stage a hundred failures to have 1 or 2 successes. You need to have confidence if your system works or not and what the reliability rate is.


43 posted on 12/10/2009 4:57:19 PM PST by JadeEmperor
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To: I still care

OR...

If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance...

Baffle them with bullsh!t!


44 posted on 12/10/2009 5:11:45 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_y5r7vHio&feature=related

not the first time - see video 2006. watch right through, speed and light adjustments, music ok too.


45 posted on 12/10/2009 5:21:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: The Comedian

“OK, I see what you mean.

That makes sense if the image is basically a time exposure capturing every event from launch to expiration of the booster(s) of all stages.

You’re asserting, though, that this crazy-a$$ missle’s trajectory, spinning like a top, actually made it into low earth orbit where gravity didn’t deform the perfectly circular spiral swirl resulting when the nozzle locked hard to one side and expended the remainder of its fuel, right?

Seems a miracle that it made it into space, considering the deformation of flight path apparent from lift off onward. Also, there is no downward drift to the background spiral which one would expect if the expelling body was still in motion, either following a sub-orbital trajectory, or falling to earth.’

Hot dang! I was just thinking the SAME thing!!! ;)


46 posted on 12/10/2009 6:39:12 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Join Me In BOYCOTTING all ObamaTV!! (Change the channel or do so and then turn tv off!!))
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To: Kimberly GG
Hot dang! I was just thinking the SAME thing!!! ;)

If you find yourself thinking the same thoughts as The Comedian, seek professional help immediately. Alternately, seek a single malt scotch, and bask in the glow...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

47 posted on 12/10/2009 6:53:10 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Brett66
Crazy Ruskies, blowing up rockets for light shows. Just use lasers like we do!

They should take up performance art, though it's a bit expensive.

48 posted on 12/10/2009 6:56:59 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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