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VANITY: Is "Las Chicas de Moda" an appropriate name for a school chorus for girls?
me | December 17, 2009 | tellw

Posted on 12/17/2009 6:12:35 AM PST by tellw

Hi all. My 11 year old daughter has joined the girls chorus at her school. The chorus just decided its name will be "Las Chicas de Moda." My daughter doesn't like the name. She wanted it to be "Voces Scholasticae" (Latin for School Voices).

Question: does this name sound inapproriate? To me it sounds slutty. I've told her teacher we don't like the name but they are pretty much saying it's a done deal (the first concert just happened).

Any thoughts/comments/suggestions/linguistic or cultural analysis of "Las Chicas de Moda" would be great!


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1 posted on 12/17/2009 6:12:35 AM PST by tellw
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To: tellw

The Girls of Fashion?


2 posted on 12/17/2009 6:13:37 AM PST by Rodebrecht (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Rodebrecht

Girls served with ice cream?


3 posted on 12/17/2009 6:14:49 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: tellw

It sounds slutty to me too.


4 posted on 12/17/2009 6:15:28 AM PST by detective
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To: tellw

The name means “Girls of Fashion”.


5 posted on 12/17/2009 6:15:47 AM PST by mouse_35
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To: tellw; Tax-chick
I am not sure how one could interpret this as being slutty?

If I wanted the name to be slutty it would "Las gatinhas"
6 posted on 12/17/2009 6:16:41 AM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: detective

Which word sounds slutty?


7 posted on 12/17/2009 6:18:08 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: tellw

She’ll be a minority in 40 years,so get used to it!


8 posted on 12/17/2009 6:19:34 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: stuartcr
"Which word sounds slutty?"

"Las Hijahs de las Putas?"

:-)

9 posted on 12/17/2009 6:21:15 AM PST by Gargantua (Appropriate that the re-birth of our great nation be delivered by a woman.)
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To: tellw
Not slutty...Inane and childish, maybe, but it is a schoolgirl group. I prefer your daughter's choice.
10 posted on 12/17/2009 6:21:48 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: Perdogg

It’s not slutty, unless there’s some kind of local-dialect spin that I don’t know about. The words just mean, “girls in fashion” or “stylish girls.” It’s a compliment to tell a person that he or she looks “de moda.”


11 posted on 12/17/2009 6:24:01 AM PST by Tax-chick (Here I come, with a sharp knife and a clear conscience!)
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To: tellw

Here’s another problem with the name. Look at the websites I found via quick google search.

www.chicasdemoda.com

www.twitter.com/chicasdemoda

Not exactly a good message is it?


12 posted on 12/17/2009 6:24:14 AM PST by tellw
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To: tellw
It depends on what will displayed as "fashion".

Bared belly-buttons?

13 posted on 12/17/2009 6:24:42 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: tellw

Sorry, my post #11 to you. “Chicas de moda” means “stylish girls.” Maybe they are, and maybe they aren’t ... I haven’t seen their pictures!

As a personal thing, I’d expect a group called “Scholastic Voices” to be singing excerpts from the Unabridged Dictionary or the Summa Theologica. There’s a fantasy book where the people do this sort of thing for entertainment. It might be “Fairest,” by the author of “Ella Enchanted.”


14 posted on 12/17/2009 6:27:22 AM PST by Tax-chick (Here I come, with a sharp knife and a clear conscience!)
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To: tellw

I see you are in Maryland. Why the heck is it in Spanish?


15 posted on 12/17/2009 6:28:29 AM PST by doodad
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To: Tax-chick

Yes and what of the girl in a few years who gets an eating disorder because someone says she’s too fat to be in a group called las chicas de moda?


16 posted on 12/17/2009 6:30:03 AM PST by tellw
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To: tellw

None of my kids has ever attended school, in order (among other things) to avoid that sort of nonsense.

I didn’t say it was a good name, just that it didn’t have any untoward sexual connotations of which I am aware. To be sure, though, you’d want to ask some hispanic teenagers, or just use the term in front of them and see if they snigger.


17 posted on 12/17/2009 6:32:32 AM PST by Tax-chick (Here I come, with a sharp knife and a clear conscience!)
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To: Tax-chick

Good idea. Thanks!


18 posted on 12/17/2009 6:33:54 AM PST by tellw
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To: tellw

What does it mean? Girls covered in ice cream? I don’t speak whatever that language is to decide if it’s appropriate, so I’ll go with what it sounds like in English.


19 posted on 12/17/2009 6:35:20 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: doodad

have you been to Maryland lately?


20 posted on 12/17/2009 6:36:43 AM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: tellw

Ok, I see it means “Girls of Fashion”.

Not quite sure how that sounds “slutty” though. Most women who don’t wear burkas like fashion, my teenage and preteen daughters like fashion. Fashion doesn’t have to equal pole dancer.


21 posted on 12/17/2009 6:36:47 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: tellw

Well, the website seems to be about hispanic models. Most models tend to be scantily clad for advertising lingerie or what have you. Although in the same respect, I wouldn’t my 11 year old daughter to be named “Victoria’s Secret” either.

However I don’t think you can say that the whole term “La Chicas de Moda means slutty because a website called that has fashion models and pop stars in tight outfits.


22 posted on 12/17/2009 6:43:32 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: doodad

Maryland, and in particular the parts closest to Washington DC and Baltimore, such as Montgomery County and Prince George’s County have been completely overrun with Hispanics, the vast majority of which are illegal. Check out Riverdale, Maryland. It is a colony of Mexico. There is no English spoken there. There are, however, some good Mexican bakeries. Among the Central Americans, there is a huge and violent Mara Salvatrucha-MS 13 gang presence. There have been some outrageous crimes. Montgomery County has a sanctuary policy. The whole thing is a huge mess.


23 posted on 12/17/2009 6:44:52 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: tellw

Huh?

Now you are off on a whole ‘nother tangent.

If that situation arises, handle it then. This isn’t Dreamgirls or something. It’s a school chorus group!


24 posted on 12/17/2009 6:45:11 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: doodad
I see you are in Maryland. Why the heck is it in Spanish?

Yeah, why can't they use a good American name like "Voces Scholasticae"?
25 posted on 12/17/2009 6:49:05 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: tellw

Why is it in Spanish? It is not inappropriate, but it is not serious or dignified. I suspect it is an attempt to make glee club seem “cool.” It also sounds like a vocal group that would be featured in a telenovela, the members of which would look like this (group called RBD, that is, rebellious):
http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/ss/eyecandy06_3.htm


26 posted on 12/17/2009 6:49:43 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Gargantua

Bad! Bad Gargantua!


27 posted on 12/17/2009 6:51:09 AM PST by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: tellw

I wonder if Mexico is an appropriate name for this country?


28 posted on 12/17/2009 6:52:28 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: tellw

Better than Las-bow-chicka-bow-wow.


29 posted on 12/17/2009 6:55:01 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Admin Moderator

I saw this...

“Las Chicas de Moda” an appropriate name for a school chorus for girls?

... and thought I saw “Las Chicas de Mods”

So I thought I’d see if any Moderator chicks are on duty this morning?

Or is it just the guys?


30 posted on 12/17/2009 7:01:11 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Ack, is that the site with "Responsibility2nd"? Some weirdo. ...)
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To: tellw

Send that first website to the teacher, principal, and supt. asking which uniform they decided on so you could order one for your daughter. That should wake the teacher up.


31 posted on 12/17/2009 7:06:02 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: tellw; SilvieWaldorfMD

Doesn’t this mean “Fashion Girls” Silvie?

tellw, Silvie is FR’s resident hispanic authority and fellow Merrylander.


32 posted on 12/17/2009 7:06:38 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (What's the difference between a Cadillac and a golf ball? Tiger can drive a golf ball 400 yards.)
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To: mouse_35

Doesn’t “Chica” mean something closer to “friend”? (Not “amiga”, but not merely “muchacha”? Maybe “homegirl”?)


33 posted on 12/17/2009 7:49:20 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: tellw

I can see where “chicas” would sound slutty. But my objection is, why must everything be Spanish now? I guess it’s inevitable...we’re going to be a Spanish-speaking country. But I don’t have to like it.


34 posted on 12/17/2009 8:32:30 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; tellw

Tell W,

Not to worry. “Las Chicas De Moda” is not controversial at all — nor is it a slutty name.

Not only does it mean “The Girls of Fashion”, but it also means something to the effect “The Girls of Here & Now” — technically meaning that these girls are in the “here & now”, but that doesn’t mean that they shed their traditions & values.

It is a good name — it’s cute. If I had a daughter in a dance troupe, I’d accept that name.

Good Luck!


35 posted on 12/17/2009 9:18:14 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: tellw

Forgive me, it’s a Chorus — I thought it was a Dance Troupe.

It’s still appropriate.


36 posted on 12/17/2009 9:33:19 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: La Lydia
There are, however, some good Mexican bakeries.

Surely you jest. "Good Mexican bakery" is an oxymoron. They make stuff that looks absolutely lovely, but tastes foul.

There are many items of Mexican cooking that I like, even some weird ones like chorizo (think "beef lips"), but baked goods ? Never !!

37 posted on 12/17/2009 11:22:14 AM PST by jimt
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maryland-related.


38 posted on 12/17/2009 11:31:30 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Perdogg

Hey Per! I enjoyed your latest post on the Nicole Kidman thread. What a RIOT!

P.S. Chris Plante will be subbing for Levin on 12/23, from 6-9pm, via WMAL.

Feliz Navidad!


39 posted on 12/17/2009 11:33:01 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: jimt

Well, La Flor de Puebla bakery Riverdale has wonderful bolillos, which are sort of like french rolls. They make the best sandwiches, molletes, etc. I am not big on the conchas and other sweet baked goods, that is, the pan dulces, but the bread is fantastic. The pan dulces are usually too dry and not dulce enough, except, maybe for the crispy orejas occasionally.


40 posted on 12/17/2009 11:47:46 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Your experience clearly exceeds mine. My only acquaintance has been with “sweet” stuff, or things that looked like they would be. That soured me on everything else. Given what you said, I’ll try the “bread” stuff next time it’s offered.


41 posted on 12/17/2009 12:49:58 PM PST by jimt
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To: tellw

So, Glee is for real.

Is it worse then Cheerios?


42 posted on 12/17/2009 12:55:27 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Y prospero ano nuevo para tu y tua familia!


43 posted on 12/17/2009 12:58:54 PM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: knarf

......Bared belly-buttons?......

Well how about this. I went to the monthly dinner at my mother in law’s extended care facility and for entertainment they had belly dancers...... from the senior citizens center. Some had exposed belly buttons but all had elaborate costumes. I looked on the web and it is an exercise industry.


44 posted on 12/17/2009 12:59:05 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: autumnraine

Well, I don’t know, but translated into english, Chicas sounds like Chicks, and it’s probably why we say that, not because of barnyard fowl, but the poster needs to understand that in Spanish, chica and chico just mean girl and boy. Period, end of. It’s the official word for them, it’s not slang, it has no special connotations. I would say that the name Chicas de Modas is about as racy as a name like “The Spice Girls.”


45 posted on 12/17/2009 1:33:22 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: dangus

Naw, if you call somebody “chiiica”, it’s like saying “gurrrrrrl”.


46 posted on 12/17/2009 1:35:34 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: La Lydia

PAN DULCE!!!

RELLENOS DE PIñA!!!


47 posted on 12/17/2009 2:36:22 PM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: doodad; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...
I see you are in Maryland. Why the heck is it in Spanish?

Because it is, after all, Maryland. For example, the way Wheaton has become, I call it El Wheaton (accent on second syllable).

Maryland "Freak State" PING!

48 posted on 12/17/2009 6:17:27 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Don't eat your dog; eat obnoxious, liberal humans to save the planet!)
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To: Altura Ct.

México del Norte, maybe?


49 posted on 12/17/2009 6:23:49 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Don't eat your dog; eat obnoxious, liberal humans to save the planet!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Thanks.

Somos las Chicas de Moda. Uds. seran assimiladas. Resistencia es futilo!

50 posted on 12/17/2009 6:27:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Don't eat your dog; eat obnoxious, liberal humans to save the planet!)
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