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Officials and Experts Warn of Crash-Induced Unrest
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Posted on 12/20/2009 4:14:38 PM PST by LouAvul

Officials and Experts Warn of Crash-Induced Unrest

Numerous high-level officials and experts warn that the economic crisis could lead to unrest world-wide - even in developed countries:

Today, Moody's warned that future tax rises and spending cuts could trigger social unrest in a range of countries from the developing to the developed world, that in the coming years, evidence of social unrest and public tension may become just as important signs of whether a country will be able to adapt as traditional economic metrics, that a fiscal crisis remains a possibility for a leading economy, and that 2010 would be a “tumultuous year for sovereign debt issuers”.

The U.S. Army War College warned in 2008 November warned in a monograph [click on Policypointers’ pdf link to see the report] titled “Known Unknowns: Unconventional ‘Strategic Shocks’ in Defense Strategy Development” of crash-induced unrest: The military must be prepared, the document warned, for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States,” which could be provoked by “unforeseen economic collapse,” “purposeful domestic resistance,” “pervasive public health emergencies” or “loss of functioning political and legal order.”

The “widespread civil violence,” the document said, “would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security.” “An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home,” it went on.

“Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States. Further, DoD [the Department of Defense] would be, by necessity, an essential enabling hub for the continuity of political authority in a multi-state or nationwide civil conflict or disturbance,” the document read.

Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair said: "The global economic crisis ... already looms as the most serious one in decades, if not in centuries ... Economic crises increase the risk of regime-threatening instability if they are prolonged for a one- or two-year period," said Blair.

"And instability can loosen the fragile hold that many developing countries have on law and order, which can spill out in dangerous ways into the international community."***

"Statistical modeling shows that economic crises increase the risk of regime-threatening instability if they persist over a one-to-two-year period."***

“The crisis has been ongoing for over a year, and economists are divided over whether and when we could hit bottom. Some even fear that the recession could further deepen and reach the level of the Great Depression.

Of course, all of us recall the dramatic political consequences wrought by the economic turmoil of the 1920s and 1930s in Europe, the instability, and high levels of violent extremism.”

Blair made it clear that - while unrest was currently only happening in Europe - he was worried this could happen within the United States.

[See also this].

Former national security director Zbigniew Brzezinski warned "there’s going to be growing conflict between the classes and if people are unemployed and really hurting, hell, there could be even riots."

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff warned the the financial crisis is the highest national security concern for the U.S., and warned that the fallout from the crisis could lead to of "greater instability". Others warning of crash-induced unrest include: The head of the World Trade Organization The head of the International Monetary Fund (and see this) The head of the World Bank Senator Christopher Dodd Congressman Ron Paul (radio interview on March 6, 2009)

Britian's MI5 security agency Leading economic historian Niall Ferguson Leading economist Marc Faber and billionaire investor Jim Rogers Leading economist Nouriel Roubini Leading economist John Williams Top trend researcher Gerald Calente European think tank Leap2020


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This is making the rounds on a few gun boards and is cause for alarm among some survivalist/anarchist types.
1 posted on 12/20/2009 4:14:39 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

Looks like Obomba’s overlords plan is working ....


2 posted on 12/20/2009 4:15:52 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: LouAvul

Get your family/disaster network prepared, armed, and organized. Know who’s an ally and who’s a target if the worst happens.


3 posted on 12/20/2009 4:21:02 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: LouAvul; FromLori
"Former national security director Zbigniew Brzezinski warned "there’s going to be growing conflict between the classes and if people are unemployed and really hurting, hell, there could be even riots."

Even riots!

I've been preparing for them for five years. Just about any spark will do...it doesn't have to be economic.

If there hadn't been so much water, New Orleans would have burned after Katrina.

4 posted on 12/20/2009 4:21:15 PM PST by blam
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To: LouAvul
Bankruptcy And Fiscal Collapse,Global Economic Crisis Tipping Point Forecast For Spring 2010
5 posted on 12/20/2009 4:25:09 PM PST by blam
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To: LouAvul

No doubt things will probably get worse before they get better.... Nothing would surprise me at this point. Be prepared.


6 posted on 12/20/2009 4:26:26 PM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: blam

Just google or youtube search “Argentina collapse 2002” to see a taste of what is probably coming our way....at least.

A currency crash, looted supermarkets, shuttered banks, riots etc. It ain’t pretty.


7 posted on 12/20/2009 4:27:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Jack Black; Travis McGee

Ping.

Apparently some think Posse Comitatus isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.


8 posted on 12/20/2009 4:28:21 PM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Candor7; appalachian_dweller; Velveeta; JustPiper; MamaDearest; Rushmore Rocks; SJackson; ...

*ping*


9 posted on 12/20/2009 4:29:35 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: LouAvul

The occupiers are setting the stage, continually poking and prodding some of the American public to step out of the box and light the fuse. This is the “generated crisis” Biden alluded to, Never let a good crisis go to waste” said Emanuel. This is an agenda by design only many Americans are still sleeping in.


10 posted on 12/20/2009 4:29:55 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: FreedomPoster

That’s a dead letter, like the so-called “Constitution.”


11 posted on 12/20/2009 4:30:00 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: LouAvul

I don’t care about unrest in the Developing World. Frankly, they could use some unrest there.

In fact, we could use some unrest.


12 posted on 12/20/2009 4:36:08 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

“In fact, we could use some unrest.”

Yes, it’s looking more and more that way with such an unresponsive government. Never thought I would see it in my lifetime.


13 posted on 12/20/2009 4:37:35 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: FreedomPoster

It’s not - to the Chicago crowd.


14 posted on 12/20/2009 4:39:09 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: Travis McGee
"Just google or youtube search “Argentina collapse 2002” to see a taste of what is probably coming our way....at least."

Thanks. I'm familiar with that situation (SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA ).

Prepare now. (Everyone around me is)

15 posted on 12/20/2009 4:40:46 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

April

Obama is kiting America on Chinese funding.

This is your watch, Democrats. YOURS.


16 posted on 12/20/2009 4:40:46 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah."Our middle regiment, Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: LouAvul
Crash-Induced Unrest

Yup, "unrest" they called it...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 12/20/2009 4:42:51 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: LouAvul

Liberals promise a socialist utopia and proceed to tax and spend the country into economic collapse. Their policies thus give rise to the conditions under which a disappointed and desperate populace naturally revolts. This is what happens when reckless ideologues run a country.


18 posted on 12/20/2009 4:43:40 PM PST by Starboard
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To: combat_boots
Bank Of China Official: The World Is Running Out Of Money To Buy US Debt

Joe Weisenthal
Dec. 20, 2009, 5:59 PM

Here's a stark warning to Barack Obama and Tim Geithner, courtesy of Zhu Min, deputy governor of the People's Bank of China.

ShanghaiDaily: IT is getting harder for governments to buy United States Treasuries because the US's shrinking current-account gap is reducing supply of dollars overseas, a Chinese central bank official said yesterday.

The comments by Zhu Min, deputy governor of the People's Bank of China, referred to the overall situation globally, not specifically to China, the biggest foreign holder of US government bonds.

[snip]

19 posted on 12/20/2009 4:44:34 PM PST by blam
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To: combat_boots

“This is your watch, Democrats. YOURS.”

And we’re holding YOU accountable.


20 posted on 12/20/2009 4:45:23 PM PST by Starboard
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To: blam; All
The Coming Starvation in America
21 posted on 12/20/2009 4:46:48 PM PST by djf (Invest now! Buy paper! Earn interest! That's more paper!! (A little soy sauce and you CAN eat it!)
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To: blam

Great book he wrote too.


22 posted on 12/20/2009 4:52:33 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: LouAvul
It's not the crash that's causing unrest — it's the outrageous power grab by big government that is going to lead to trouble.
23 posted on 12/20/2009 4:55:38 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: blam

By the way, ferfal has made a few posts here recently. Have you seen them? He’s ferfalFAL or something like that.


24 posted on 12/20/2009 5:00:34 PM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: FreedomPoster
"By the way, ferfal has made a few posts here recently. Have you seen them? He’s ferfalFAL or something like that."

Don't think I've seen these.

25 posted on 12/20/2009 5:04:14 PM PST by blam
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To: LouAvul

OF CORUSE.

They have been planning for such for decades . . . licking their chops at the prospect of the chaos and blood letting.

Their boss satan loves that stuff.

They think they are doing the planet a favor to reduce the population forcefully.

God have mercy.


26 posted on 12/20/2009 5:18:09 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: FreedomPoster; blam; FerFAL308
By the way, ferfal has made a few posts here recently. Have you seen them? He’s ferfalFAL or something like that.

FerFAL is FerFAL308 on Free Republic, but I don't think he checks it often. (Yet!)

27 posted on 12/20/2009 5:28:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: LouAvul

Americans owe over 11 Trillion dollars in home mortgage debt (that’s just for 1 - 4 family, that does not include multi-family and commercial debt) That home mortgage number was only 2.6 Trillion in 1990, in less than 20 years, it went over 11 Trillion.

AND we owe over 2.5 Trillion in other consumer credit related debt (cars, boats, RV’s, credit cards). That number is up from 800 Billion in 1990.

So, just in home mortgage and consumer related debt, we owe almost 14 Trillion dollars (on assets that are very likely worth less than we paid for them)!

What’s worse, we do not pay the low, low interest rates on our debt that the gov’t pays on its debt.

1 Trillion (just ONE) is $1 per second for 32,000 years, and that’s without interest!

People need to earn more money than ever in order to pay off this unimaginable, monumental debt... and everything that is being proposed kills jobs, instead of creates jobs.

Scary, scary stuff indeed.

Source: U.S. Census bureau.

Home mortgage debt: http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2010/tables/10s1155.pdf

Consumer credit debt:
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2010/tables/10s1153.pdf


28 posted on 12/20/2009 5:34:00 PM PST by Painesright
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To: LouAvul

“This is making the rounds on a few gun boards and is cause for alarm among some survivalist/anarchist types.”

So you’re an anti-survivalist/statist type?


29 posted on 12/20/2009 5:37:28 PM PST by dljordan (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: dljordan

You know, survivalism and anarchy just go hand in hand. That’s why we prepare, so we can run wild in the streets.

(I know. It makes no sense.)


30 posted on 12/20/2009 5:43:33 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks. I should have figured out the the FAL didn’t repeat. In my defense, I’m on my last glass from a TJ’s/Unibroue high-abv ale. ;-P

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/trader-joes-vintage-ale-2009/113888/


31 posted on 12/20/2009 5:46:43 PM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Travis McGee; FerFAL308
Great to see ferfal find FR. He had some very pertinent things to say on a board you and I use to frequent (but no more).

I have read all three of your novels now, Matt, and your fiction creeps ever closer to reality. Scary.

32 posted on 12/20/2009 5:53:42 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

I hope he starts checkin in here more. His point of view is quite original.

Currently I’m working on a 4th novel, unrelated to the trilogy. It will be shorter, and in first person POV.

I’m reading up on Beirut and Bosnia for research.


33 posted on 12/20/2009 5:55:14 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: FreedomPoster

I don’t know that one, but it does remind me that I”m due a fresh St. Pauli Girl.


34 posted on 12/20/2009 5:56:22 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Good deal Matt. I’ll be here.


35 posted on 12/20/2009 5:58:52 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: Travis McGee

“You know, survivalism and anarchy just go hand in hand. That’s why we prepare, so we can run wild in the streets.”

Damn! It never occurred to me! After all these years I finally understand. I feel a sense of....Freedom.


36 posted on 12/20/2009 6:05:33 PM PST by dljordan (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: FreedomPoster

They’ve probably punched enough holes in Posse Commitatus over the years that it can be essentially ‘bypassed’ without much of a peep. Witness the LA Riots (Marines/Pendelton) and Waco (Army/Ft. Hood). In both cases the issue of P-C was simply skirted by saying the military had an ‘advisory role’ to law enforcement.


37 posted on 12/20/2009 7:12:53 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: FreedomPoster

They don’t think much of The Constitution or established law in general!


38 posted on 12/20/2009 7:23:09 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: hennie pennie
Thanks much for the ping pennie. I've heard the detention camps are being readied as we speak.

Soon there will be but two options: comply or die.

Remember Waco? No one should have any illusions as to what a fire fight with the feds would entail....your death.

Better to go out on your feet.

39 posted on 12/21/2009 8:39:10 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last.....it might be.)
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To: Painesright

Hi guys, just google “Obama Peron”
The guy is following the right steps... into becoming a benevolent dictator.

Check out this article:Obama as Peron
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012791.html

FerFAL


40 posted on 12/21/2009 11:36:32 AM PST by FerFAL308
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To: hennie pennie
Thanks hennie pennie.
Moody's warned that future tax rises and spending cuts could trigger social unrest in a range of countries from the developing to the developed world

41 posted on 12/21/2009 8:21:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: The Comedian

You make some amazing statements with hardly a word...


42 posted on 12/21/2009 8:38:26 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
You make some amazing statements with hardly a word...

Thanks. I'm more of a doer than a talker.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

43 posted on 12/21/2009 9:05:37 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: appalachian_dweller; Candor7; Quix; LouAvul; Trod Upon; blam; FromLori; sonofstrangelove; onyx; ...
I remember in the early mid '90s that there were numerous shortwave radio broadcasts with static-filled, scratchy voices chatterring axiously about all the alleged "U.N. Detention Camps" being built near major U.S. highways.

But... but have you done an online search lately?

It is quite startling, over a third of a million search results!!

"detention camps" (Obama's OR Obama) -Guantanamo -gitmo - Google Search

There are approximately 378,000 search results....

I wonder how much of the search retrieval stems from reliable sources???

44 posted on 12/22/2009 6:04:14 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I have read numerous reports all pretty much saying the same thing and reports that obama is preparing for civil war I don’t know about that one given the source is one of those Russian things but this article is appearing on several sites now I actually read this guy but was surprised to find it on Zero Hedge and it is something people should think about FOOD.

http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/12/2010-food-crisis-for-dummies.html

and

Tarpley - Hyperinflation possible in 2010

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=9059

Gerald Celente - 2010 - Prepare for the Worse

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=9060

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article15978.html

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHNQ_enUS345US345&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=obama+preparing+for+civil+war


45 posted on 12/22/2009 8:51:45 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: djf

The countries that make up two thirds of the world’s agricultural output are experiencing drought conditions.

The following article is HIGHLY recommended for anyone trading in the commodities futures markets or interested in possible future outcomes in 2010.

“If you read any economic, financial, or political analysis for 2010 that doesn’t mention the food shortage looming next year, throw it in the trash, as it is worthless. There is overwhelming, undeniable evidence that the world will run out of food next year. When this happens, the resulting triple digit food inflation will lead panicking central banks around the world to dump their foreign reserves to appreciate their currencies and lower the cost of food imports, causing the collapse of the dollar, the treasury market, derivative markets, and the global financial system. The US will experience economic disintegration.

So far the crisis has been driven by the slow and steady increase in defaults on mortgages and other loans. This is about to change. What will drive the financial crisis in 2010 will be panic about food supplies and the dollar’s plunging value. Things will start moving fast.”

http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/12/2010-food-crisis-for-dummies.html


46 posted on 12/22/2009 8:53:06 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: The Comedian

The amount of your words may be limited but they speak volumes.


47 posted on 12/22/2009 8:56:17 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: hennie pennie
I wonder how much of the search retrieval stems from reliable sources???

I consider reports of FEMA detention camps and the like similar to defense against an array of atomic weapons:

If 99% of the nukes are inert decoys, but 1% are live and get through your defenses, you still have a very large problem.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

48 posted on 12/22/2009 9:02:10 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: FromLori
The amount of your words may be limited but they speak volumes.

Pfft, if I posted 1/10th the information value you do, I'd be nominated for digital sainthood...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

49 posted on 12/22/2009 9:04:50 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: LouAvul
Blair made it clear that - while unrest was currently only happening in Europe - he was worried this could happen within the United States. [See also this]. Former national security director Zbigniew Brzezinski warned "there’s going to be growing conflict between the classes and if people are unemployed and really hurting, hell, there could be even riots."

They're not worried about rioting among the "unemployed". They are worried about the welfare types the day the welfare checks don't come (or bounce).

50 posted on 12/22/2009 9:26:21 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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