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1 posted on 12/20/2009 7:40:56 PM PST by dr_lew
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So how would nineteen year olds respond to this movie? (niece who wants to see this thing...here for Christmas).


2 posted on 12/20/2009 7:42:53 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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I must have smoked too much. Didn’t notice all that.


3 posted on 12/20/2009 7:43:50 PM PST by goseminoles
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I was split between disgust with the "message"

That good won over evil? Sad.
4 posted on 12/20/2009 7:46:48 PM PST by aruanan
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Other than those, it makes no sense whatever, being completely fantastical, and way out of step with the familar "look and feel" of the depicted military machinery.

Because, if you had been paying attention, the avatar program was not military.
5 posted on 12/20/2009 7:48:03 PM PST by aruanan
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Didn’t want to donate to the cause so I bit torrented it.

What a steaming pile of liberal angst.

This reviewer on IMDB hits the nail on the head:

Honestly, I lost my faith in Cameron when he made Titanic. Avatar looks to put the final nail in his coffin. When I saw the preview I knew it would be a PC propaganda piece for eco-guilt and left-wing politics. I also knew there was no hope in seeing the dorky looking Alien Smurfs with their suck caveman weapons get wiped out. Now that would be a movie worth seeing! Sorry but I cannot root against the human race (especially with all the cool military tech), call me biased.

The whole idea of some primitive alien race using nonsensical fantasty inspired creatures that look like eco-dragons to defeat a high-tech army is the pinnacle of stupidity. It is like some teenage boy lacking testosterone came up with the plot. Lets see, lets combine fern gully, thundercats and the smurfs for the good guys and lets make the bad guys “greedy” corporate humans hell bent on “destroying the planet” in their unsustainable need for energy to fuel their capitalist consumerism. The only thing that can save the planet is the primitive zen/native American/tribal beliefs in eco-harmony. Spare me the lecture on your economic illiteracy Cameron.

The crappy video game for this should be hilarious, especially with all the kids confused why they cannot play with the cool robo-mechs with machine guns and instead get to be “Dorky Smurf”, decked out in loin cloth armor, armed with a biodegreadable bow and arrow! Controls will include a button for “tree planting”, “eco-meditation”, “recycling your weapons” and “low carbon footprint” (you walk lightly and hardly breathe).

What a waste of CGI. Apparently Cameron spent millions getting Smurfette’s breasts “right”. How hard is it to get them right? Just make them big! Maybe next time he can spend as much time on a real plot where you can actually root for the human race? Nah, pushing left-wing propaganda is more important than entertainment. Right Cameron? Sadly this movie will appeal to eco-pacifists who have been brainwashed that we are destroying the planet and the human race is evil.

Maybe because I am human I have a problem with being considered evil but hey that is just me.


6 posted on 12/20/2009 7:49:09 PM PST by RightInEastLansing
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The destruction of the Home Tree definitely drew on WTC imagery, and this seems to confuse the message of evil humans/Americans ( the humans are nothing but Americans in the movie! )

Maybe the movie is not the site or source of the confusion.
9 posted on 12/20/2009 7:51:44 PM PST by aruanan
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I really enjoyed the movie. Many movies have things going on in them that are never explained.

Such as: how can the bad guys always know where to go at any time to find the good guys? Or can anyone tell me how a star trek communicator work or even the transporter?

And as to the bad guys in the movie: (and I’m very right on the political spectrum) all movies that have bad guys have them normally entrenched in main stream organizations such as the military, cops, government elected officials, Indian affairs guy running the reservations, the local banker, and on and on and on.

I would recommend the movie to anyone..it’s great entertainment.


11 posted on 12/20/2009 7:57:19 PM PST by Ecliptic
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Destruction of the home tree?

That sounds like an isaac asimov or ray bradbury short story I read once. Are these “avatars” small insectoid like creatures(humanoid and maybe a foot tall) that have exoskeletons and use their dead to make a varnish like coating for their weapons?


12 posted on 12/20/2009 7:57:19 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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This could be the greatest movie ever made and I still would not see it in a theater. If the man doesn’t like capitalism then maybe it is time for capitalism to stop liking him . . . and I’m very grateful that, for the time being, we still have the ability to vote with some of our dollars earned.


15 posted on 12/20/2009 8:01:44 PM PST by TheVitaminPress (as goes the Second Amendment . . . so goes the Constitution.)
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What are the glasses like that you have to wear to get the 3d effect?


16 posted on 12/20/2009 8:05:11 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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My take on it: huge disappointment. I won't be seeing any sequel, or anything else from this director. I expected some liberal propaganda, but this was completely over the top.

I can't see the ex Marine as a hero. To me he is a traitor and should be shot. Yes, the "evil" corporation driving the mining operation was pushing too hard. Fine, don't help them, conscientiously object, whatever. But the would-be hero actively aides the enemy, engages his fellow humans, kills hundreds. Sorry, not a hero, period.

And that "evil" corporation? Did anyone notice they were confining their mining to one small area of the planet? They could easily have razed the planet mining, but were apparently trying to keep things local. And that bad old military supporting them? Did they directly engage the natives causing massive casualties? No, they destroyed the tree, and were going after another natural artifact in an effort to drive the natives to resettle somewhere else. Nice, no, but not evil either.

Nice effects, C- on story line, too thin and inconsistent - poor sci-fi. Uber-liberal message beating you over the head every 2 min, fail.

20 posted on 12/20/2009 8:10:08 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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Got it. Dances with smurfs in space.


22 posted on 12/20/2009 8:11:50 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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More from Podhoretz's review

Getting the [Keebler elves] to move is Jake Sully's job. And he does earn their trust, even though the leader of their tribe says, "His alien scent offends my nose!" (The line is translated from their nonexistent language with subtitles that are designed to look like the men's room signs at an Indian casino.) The Blue People, in particular the contemptuous and lovely Neytiri (Zoe Saldana), show him their wondrous ways. But before he can discuss hiring Allied Van Lines with them, the Evil Corporation intervenes.

It is run by an evil Yuppie, and the Yuppie's security is provided by an evil Marine. And for no good reason other than to get the movie into its second act, they decide to stage a military attack on the Elf Tree, thus blowing the zillions of dollars they sank into the project of making Jake Sully into a Blue Person rather than waiting a couple of weeks.

Oy, the suffering that ensues, all for some lousy unobtainium! Oy, the destruction! You can hear writer-director James Cameron weeping over his special-effects computer as the bad humans he created commit this terrible atrocity against the Blue People who don't exist. As for me, I was reminded of Oscar Wilde's immortal crack about Charles Dickens's tears as he killed off the child heroine of his Old Curiosity Shop: "It would take a heart of stone to read the death of Little Nell without laughing.

23 posted on 12/20/2009 8:14:42 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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The precious metal is called “unobtainium” - sheesh, did George Lucas write this? I swear, liberal screen writers can be such idiots.


26 posted on 12/20/2009 8:30:19 PM PST by Tzfat
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The precious metal is called “unobtainium” - sheesh, did George Lucas write this? I swear, liberal screen writers can be such idiots.


27 posted on 12/20/2009 8:31:53 PM PST by Tzfat
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All I saw is a trailer, and the movie looks awful.

Looks like a video game.

I have a feeling it will prove nothing more than a bigger budget more elaborate “Doom the Movie” movie, but for all that no less a waste of time.

That is my impression from the trailer.


30 posted on 12/20/2009 8:34:41 PM PST by Age of Reason
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I was looking for the exits. The ex marine is a traitor. Little Big Horn and Black Hills gold.


32 posted on 12/20/2009 8:36:18 PM PST by bushpilot1
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Thanks for the review, although you should’ve put a spoiler warning for those last two sentences. But no one else has complained.


40 posted on 12/20/2009 8:56:47 PM PST by Aaron0617
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evil humans/Americans ( the humans are nothing but Americans in the movie! )

NOT GETTING MY MONEY


44 posted on 12/20/2009 9:17:08 PM PST by BenLurkin
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In other news, Dan O’Bannon passed away the other day. O’Bannon co-wrote Dark Star, one of the greatest sifi movies ever made.

In fact, you can watch it right here...

http://www.amctv.com/videos/b-movies/?bcpid=13332913001&bclid=14056329001&bctid=14095584001

Enjoy.

45 posted on 12/20/2009 9:34:00 PM PST by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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