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Planning a Vacation? Don’t Forget the Porn Stars! (An example fo the fall of a once great country)
CNBC ^ | 12/30/2009 | Staff

Posted on 12/30/2009 7:56:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Film studios are a frequent stop for the typical Los Angeles tourist – and the really lucky ones sometimes get a brief glimpse of favorite star making a movie.

Technically, things aren’t vastly different for the folks who book their trips through Porn Week – though these vacationers catch a whole lot more than a quick glimpse of the actors. Instead, they’re on the set of a porn film – watching, helping behind the scenes or (if they’re brave enough) perhaps joining the cast themselves.

It’s Fantasyland, to be sure – but Mickey and Donald are nowhere in sight.

A porn-themed vacation is hardly everyday, but it’s not as far from the mainstream as you might think. In fact, the U.K.’s Bravo television network has aired a reality show centered around the Porn Week travel company for more than four seasons.

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Week’s customers – but the financial demographics might surprise you. At roughly $2,000 per trip, the vacations aren’t for the cash poor. And the sets are as likely to be to Prague or Budapest as they are to LA, which boosts airfare costs (which aren’t included in the package). This, says organizers, helps weed out the riff-raff.

“We don’t tend to get the raincoat brigade,” says Gazzman. “We’ve had everyone from airplane pilots to doctors to dentists. … Because of the price point of the business, it attracts a certain level of client. There aren’t many yahoos who turn up on our trips. We can have a fairly sophisticated experience – with glasses of wine on sets and watching the porn happening while people are relaxing and kicking back.”

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God help this nation from liberals.
1 posted on 12/30/2009 7:56:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

The sooner that abomination of a state breaks off from the continent slides deep down into the Pacific Ocean, the better!


2 posted on 12/30/2009 7:59:18 AM PST by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: dtrpscout

Agree.....wish we could carve out CA and watch it fall into the sea (at least southern CA!)


3 posted on 12/30/2009 7:59:58 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

A country becomes what it tolerates.


4 posted on 12/30/2009 8:01:14 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Red in Blue PA

So how different are these folks from large Democratic Donors?


5 posted on 12/30/2009 8:01:29 AM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: dtrpscout

Dunno, it might help kill the porn industry if more people saw how it really works. I can’t think of much thats less interesting.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 8:02:45 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Larry Lucido

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDU5QmQws8


8 posted on 12/30/2009 8:06:34 AM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“.... the really lucky ones sometimes get a brief glimpse of favorite star making a movie.”

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Gee what about those of us who have never had a “favorite star”?


9 posted on 12/30/2009 8:06:43 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Red in Blue PA

Agree.....wish we could carve out CA and watch it fall into the sea (at least southern CA!)

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Not all of So Cal is that bad, although it does have its moments. Northern CA tends to vote much more blue, while Orange County, Riverside County, San Beranrdino County, and parts of San Diego county consistently vote conservative.

OTOH, we just moved from that part of CA to the midwest to get away from California’s government and the illegal aliens.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 8:07:28 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - ""I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Morgana

What I thought too! Like the guys who go on these tours have class or something!


11 posted on 12/30/2009 8:07:33 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Just another reason why Islam is at war with the west.


12 posted on 12/30/2009 8:07:34 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: 2001convSVT

bump that


13 posted on 12/30/2009 8:09:37 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Red in Blue PA
One of the funniest episodes of "The Man Show" had a bit titled "Adult Film Fantasy Camp," sort of a take off on the baseball fantasy camps. I miss that show (the original one with Jimmy & Adam, not the later version).

Mark

14 posted on 12/30/2009 8:12:55 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“We can have a fairly sophisticated experience – with glasses of wine on sets and watching the porn happening while people are relaxing and kicking back.”

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You couldn’t write this comedy any better if you tried.

So the usual, hugely over-rated glass of fermented grape, magically renders the smut “sophisticated”.


15 posted on 12/30/2009 8:14:41 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: MarkL

That episode?

16 posted on 12/30/2009 8:28:03 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They don’t get the raincoat brigade-—BS.

Just expensive raincoat wearers. There is little difference between rich perverts and poor ones other than money.


17 posted on 12/30/2009 8:28:33 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s a pendulum.

The 1700s were full of sex clubs, socially-accepted prostitution, etc.

This, too, shall pass.


18 posted on 12/30/2009 8:29:00 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: dtrpscout
The sooner that abomination of a state breaks off from the continent slides deep down into the Pacific Ocean, the better!

When are yahoos like you going to wake up and realize that this kind of thing isn't a California problem, it's a USA problem? The only reason that your backwater state hasn't been overrun with idiots in the same manner is because we have nicer weather and nicer geography here. Period. Not to mention that California, at one time, had easily the the biggest economy of any state in the union, so every parasite from the other 49 moved here to leech off of the wealth. Now we're ruined. But if you think that you don't have your share of idiots in your state, you are deluding yourself completely.
19 posted on 12/30/2009 8:30:18 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: Red in Blue PA
Why am I just finding out about this?

Luckily I haven't locked in next years vacation yet.

20 posted on 12/30/2009 8:30:45 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hey...you reap what you sow.

Face it...you are totally disgusting for suggesting that this is legitimate. You are a scum for supporting porn as you support the most destructive force to the family in the nation. You support the cheapening of all relationships and more. Yeah...my opinion, but live with it because just like gays DEMANDING that we totally accept them as a natural occurrence so as to legitimize their CHOICE of lifestyle so, too, does the porn lover who thinks I am supposed to adore porn with them. They want justification.


21 posted on 12/30/2009 8:58:21 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Red in Blue PA

BTW...My last post was NOT directed AT you but to porn lovers and supporters. Sorry I did not put that in that post! I generically replied.


22 posted on 12/30/2009 9:00:59 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: 2001convSVT

Bovine exhaust. Islam’s war with the West isn’t over the porn industry... these “holy” warriors indulge themselves of every vice before they attack. Heck, they’re view of Heaven is a giant orgy!

No, Islam’s war on the West is about submission. Nothing more. Nothing less.


23 posted on 12/30/2009 9:02:51 AM PST by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: Morgana

“We’ve had everyone from airplane pilots to doctors to dentists. … Because of the price point of the business, it attracts a certain level of client.”

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“We’ve had everyone from airplane pilots to doctors to dentists. … Because of the price point of the business, it attracts a certain level of perverts.”

THERE! fixed it!!


Indeed! Many people believe that “having money” is the ultimate stamp of approval for one’s character.


24 posted on 12/30/2009 9:13:25 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Red in Blue PA

I guess that we now know why all those Congressional junkets are headed to Prague and Budapest.


25 posted on 12/30/2009 9:23:58 AM PST by centurion316
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To: pgyanke
No, the war is not specifically over porn, it is just one of the hundreds of reasons that Islam is fighting us. Islam wants to take over to save us all from ourselves and they will kill to accomplish that.
26 posted on 12/30/2009 9:33:41 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: 2001convSVT
Islam wants to take over to save us all from ourselves and they will kill to accomplish that.

Again, you are wrong. Islam's "holy" mandate is submission. They aren't concerned with salvation of souls.

27 posted on 12/30/2009 9:40:25 AM PST by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This was part of a time-share presentation I inadvertently signed up for last year. The brunch was good, but I had to sit through a porn film shoot all afternoon. ;-)


28 posted on 12/30/2009 9:41:58 AM PST by Ghengis
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To: Red in Blue PA

“At roughly $2,000 per trip, the vacations aren’t for the cash poor”

Certainly something Tiger could afford.


29 posted on 12/30/2009 10:02:06 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: ICE-FLYER

**You are a scum for supporting porn as you support the most destructive force to the family in the nation.**

Seemed like I heard that before, oh around 1900 Carrie A. Nation about alcohol. Then there was those who made the same statement about gambling, smoking, rock & roll, jazz, etc.


30 posted on 12/30/2009 10:30:33 AM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: Swiss
Seemed like I heard that before, oh around 1900 Carrie A. Nation about alcohol. Then there was those who made the same statement about gambling, smoking, rock & roll, jazz, etc.

I see what you are saying but I believe your reasoning to be flawed. There is a difference in drinking and getting drunk. A difference that one is enjoyment the other is abuse. One will do little to no harm and one will open up a box of pain that if continued leads to loss and possibly death.

There is no enjoying porn a little bit without consequence. Once taken in it is destructive from even the smallest amounts. It works on the psyche and on your emotions and more. It says that the real life is not satisfying. It takes from you every time.

You are trying to say the two are equal on their face when clearly they are not.

31 posted on 12/30/2009 10:44:08 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Swiss
alcohol,gambling, smoking, rock & roll, jazz,

That is a good list of things that the world would be better without. Need to add Islam to the list though.

32 posted on 12/30/2009 10:45:02 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Red in Blue PA

With all those whores, it would remind me of a visit to our Capitol.

Maybe next time I can direct a short film with Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu.


33 posted on 12/30/2009 11:00:36 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: ICE-FLYER

So you are saying that all I have to do to break up your marriage and turn you into a child molesting freak is to force you to view porn onetime?

Why a small ban of atheist terrorists could completely destroy the Church in America if they kidnapped the leaders then make them watch “Debbie Does Dallas”


34 posted on 12/30/2009 11:29:35 AM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: Swiss
So you are saying that all I have to do to break up your marriage and turn you into a child molesting freak is to force you to view porn onetime? Why a small ban of atheist terrorists could completely destroy the Church in America if they kidnapped the leaders then make them watch “Debbie Does Dallas”

Hmmmmm, lets see, uhhh, NO...I am NOT saying that and your attempt to drive the conversation to that extreme shows a contempt of the debate as if saying something this outrageous justifies Porn.

YOU need to justify porn...NOT me, I need not defend that its bad...YOU need to say why its harmless and good. Maybe I should be extreme and ask when your daughter is to become a porn star and ask you how proud of her you would be. You can't possibly tell me that supporting that notion is in any way defensible. A little arsenic at a time will do nothing more than kill you slowly and this is what porn does to the heart and soul of family and relationships and more.

35 posted on 12/30/2009 11:39:10 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Porn has been around since the caveman. I expect that those in the know could find examples in the Holy Land during the time of Jesus. I don’t need to justify something that has been a common thread of humanity for 4000 years plus.

As long as there is masturbation there will be porn either underground or in the open. So you believe there shouldn’t be masturbation?


36 posted on 12/30/2009 11:57:51 AM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Where do I sign up?


37 posted on 12/30/2009 11:57:55 AM PST by gman992
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To: Swiss
Porn has been around since the caveman. I expect that those in the know could find examples in the Holy Land during the time of Jesus. I don’t need to justify something that has been a common thread of humanity for 4000 years plus.

Ohh...I see, that justifies it all doesn't it? I mean since its, you know, been around it must be okay. And its "common" in our human thread. I see, so making the places that sell it hide is not fair right? Maybe we should have it in grade school or at least high school...am I right? After all its a "common thread of humanity" according to you.

As long as there is masturbation there will be porn either underground or in the open. So you believe there shouldn’t be masturbation? Oh...thy only go together? And this is relevant how? people do so without porn...what in the world does this question have to do with the value discussion and debate as to the merits of porn? JUSTIFY PORN to us...tell us how it is GOOD. Maybe you ca tell us how it supports the family and does no harm to marriage or how the mockery of family in so much of porn is actually a good thing.

38 posted on 12/30/2009 12:09:06 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

So how is porn good? Ok the Gonorrhea rate peaked in 1978 and the syphilis rate in 1946. There has been a slight rise since 2000 but more likely the rise of illegal immigration than internet porn. I remember reading elsewhere where sexual assaults and other sex related crimes are down. So perhaps people getting themselves off by viewing porn has reduced all that. There is much more viewing of porn by the United States military over in the battle zone than in previous wars yet sexual assaults and rapes is rare.

As for marriage, I remember years ago at a National Guard unit I was in most of the old timers would gather together after drill and watch porn and drink some beer. About all of them was happily married for years and will be until they die. I am thinking of all the troubled marriages I have known and I can’t think of porn being the cause of the problem for any. I am sure there is a few but there was much bigger issues for most couples than porn. Frankly I find it pitiful these churches who preach over and over about porn yet most of their congregation is divorced or having problems because they ignore bigger issues. In fact in my personal opinion the Churches has really screwed the pooch about the sanity of marriage.

Other than that, one man’s porn might be another man’s art.


39 posted on 12/30/2009 12:44:22 PM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

You have nailed it! ... And democrats and rinos have America tolerating degeneracy that is making America degenerate.


40 posted on 12/30/2009 12:47:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

“Maybe we should have it in grade school or at least high school...am I right?”

I saw my first porn movie when I was 9 and i’m 72 now so does that ruin me?

By the way, i’ve been married for 51 years.


41 posted on 12/30/2009 1:07:18 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Swiss
So how is porn good?

Its not...but go ahead and try and justify it.

Ok the Gonorrhea rate peaked in 1978 and the syphilis rate in 1946. There has been a slight rise since 2000 but more likely the rise of illegal immigration than internet porn. I remember reading elsewhere where sexual assaults and other sex related crimes are down. So perhaps people getting themselves off by viewing porn has reduced all that.

This is justification? This wild ass conjecture? You have to be kidding to suggest that disease going UP and then jokingly trying to suggest with ZERO evidence that its due to illegal immigration. I guess they're not watching porn before breaking into the country right?

There is much more viewing of porn by the United States military over in the battle zone than in previous wars yet sexual assaults and rapes is rare.

And yet we in the military are twice a year subjected to sexual harassment and sexual intimidation training and indoctrination due to the fact that complaints are high. 20 Yeas plus and still in and I still see that the wrong approach to this is used and apologized for by liberals. Want to try this one again?

As for marriage, I remember years ago at a National Guard unit I was in most of the old timers would gather together after drill and watch porn and drink some beer. About all of them was happily married for years and will be until they die. I am thinking of all the troubled marriages I have known and I can’t think of porn being the cause of the problem for any. I am sure there is a few but there was much bigger issues for most couples than porn.

Now you're actually getting somewhere...It is correct to assert that most divorces do not happen over night. Heck, even adultery started some time ago in a persons life. It CAN and often DOES start with porn. Porn is a gateway to total dissatisfaction. After all, that hot little number who takes it any way you want to give it and does so for an hour or more is soooo much better than your not-so-hot wife. I stand amazed at the men who sell their souls here to the point of the destruction of their marriage because their wife does not look like she did when younger, pre-kids and on and on. Instead of thinking of the pain and suffering she went through to give him children, instead of thinking of this amazing act of devotion he thinks with his package and keeps going back for more and ultimately losses interest in a love relation for that of a physical one. Do you really want to deny this happens? I never said it is a 100% happening to ALL but you are totally lying to yourself and others to suggest that it has no impact even if a marriage stays together. I know of no woman in a true love relationship who thinks it's alright to share her man with another woman...and why don't you ask some women if they think its much the same when they see their man getting off to a porn film because they are not satisfied with that woman. See what they say.

42 posted on 12/30/2009 9:43:40 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: dalereed
I saw my first porn movie when I was 9 and i’m 72 now so does that ruin me? By the way, i’ve been married for 51 years.

Okay...now, what is your argument here? I mean I suppose some ideas but explain to us why this matters in the great scheme of the multi-billion dollar porn industry and all the harm it does. Tell us why your singular experiences justify it.

43 posted on 12/30/2009 10:45:59 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Dude lets be honest no matter what I would say you are not going to change your mind. Myself I don’t want to change your mind, if you think porn is the most horrible thing in the universe then that is your right.

You hate porn and challenge anybody to tell you what is good about it. Hell I dislike motorcycles, cars are much safer and quieter. They make me nervous when I am in traffic with some motorcycle just waiting for him to do something stupid. So what is good about motorcycles when people are more likely killed riding them? The difference is that I treat motorcyclists like adults, I don’t go around condemning their behavior. They like to ride, they take the risk, who am I to lecture them.

I can’t say I would pay $2000 to see porn stars in action like the original article but if that is what they want to do with their time and money I am not going to get on my moral high horse about it. Really “what good is it?” might be the most dangerous statement in the human language. Humans don’t need to eat beef, we can get protein elsewhere. A Vegan can say “What good is eating beef?” and explain all the reasons why cattle raising is bad for the environment. Some else might ask “What good is Jewelry?” seriously the gold and diamonds in jewelry is gotten at a horrible human cost in lives and injuries compared with other things. The anti gun nut asks “What good is guns?” etc.

Cold medicine in my state might only be prescribed by prescription because state law enforcement is saying “what good is sudafed if they are going to use it to make meth”. I am getting to the point let them make meth as long as I can get sudafed for a cold.

There comes a point where your war against a perceived wrong may infringe upon my rights. Mr. ICE I don’t know your personal story, maybe a loved one did ruin her life in the porn industry. Maybe your minister is on a power trip preaching against it. Perhaps you got some guilt about past events. I don’t know and I don’t care.

This is what I do know, of all the guys I have known I estimated at least 99% of them has viewed porn. Could a certain percent have a problem? Sure there is those addicted to the stuff like those addicted to smoking or drugs or alcohol or other stuff. There is a certain percent of religious types that goes totally nuts about their religion beyond reason. Should we ban religion because of their behavior?

So the question becomes at what point do you say the majority of users of something lose their rights to it because a minority can’t handle it? Are you calling for a complete ban on it, have the military raid adult bookstores and search house to house for porn tape collections? And at what point do you define porn? Just explicit sexual acts or is it nudity or do we say suggestive acts and clothing. Will we have public burning of J.C. Penny catalogs because they have women in bras in them? Or will women be required to wear burka’s in order to save the institution of marriage?

Like the cold medicine ban there is a certain point where the perceived evil is better than the cure to most people.


44 posted on 12/31/2009 7:58:31 PM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: Swiss

Appreciate your tact here. I would like, however, to point out something important...

I am a conservative and I would be a fraud to that were I not to stand up for the constitution. No where in my exchanges on this subject have I ever said or supported a ban or restriction or anything else. I do believe that this is up to community and in many ways they have effectually answered by zoning, access and other such restrictions. I fully support keeping it as far from kids as possible. But liberals complain that “they’re going to do it anyway” which is mostly just their catch all phrase to justify their own failures in life. Yes, I saw porn as a kid, maybe you did too and I can easily see how it jaded my view of girls and sex and more as I grew into a teen and young man.

However...

I will always stand against ANY attempts to redefine what porn is when a value is being assigned. If someone dares to call it harmless I will challenge it. If someone thinks its mainstream I will show that it is not. When someone tries to water down the stigma attached to it and all that surrounds it I will re-attache it as best I can. If the debate enters the public square I would suggest that it must be ready to face me and others on it. I am sure that there are firebrand issues you consider worthy of this kind of reaction. Again this does not mean I don’t support the law and the constitution. Because just like the meth/sudafed issue I am in total agreement with you. Big Bad Government has done nothing more than restrict 99% for the 1% problem. I would offer that far more people are affected by porn that you may be willing to admit but you were correct in suggesting that the harm I have seen has hit close to home.

I do wish you the best New Year and thanks for the conversation.


45 posted on 12/31/2009 11:52:02 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Well sir we are not really that far apart on the issue. Pretty much I would love to see all internet porn and nudity web sites be required to move to a new domain which would be required to have something like dot sex or dot porn or dot adult instead dot com or dot net. Doing so would allow very effective parental and organizational software filters to block out porn from children. Right now the Internet is the wild west.

I believe adult magazines, bookstores, stripclubs, etc might decline on their own because of internet porn. If people can get it cheap or free and in private rather than paying ten bucks or whatever for a Penthouse or risk being robbed going to a strip club then that takes alot of the money out of it.

So that leaves mainstream media as the major problem, the money isn’t in it for them anymore. With internet porn so widely available really the lure of a topless part don’t increase the audience as it once did. But the Hollywood types will still push it because it ticks off Conservatives.

Personally I don’t want sex in my regular entertainment, it usually a crutch or gimmick that shows lack of talent, just like most movies with excessive bad language turns me off for the same reason. I think ratings reflect that others feel the same way but the Hollywood elites love to press buttons for attention.

What will end Hollywood trying to mainstream porn in my opinion might not be you and me objecting to it but if Roseanne Barr and Rosy O’Donnell insist on doing nude lesbian love on network prime time.

People might argue with you about the effect of porn on marriage but argue that you never want to see Helen Thomas nude on HBO and even the biggest defender of porn has to agree.


46 posted on 01/01/2010 7:57:14 PM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: Swiss
What will end Hollywood trying to mainstream porn in my opinion might not be you and me objecting to it but if Roseanne Barr and Rosy O’Donnell insist on doing nude lesbian love on network prime time. People might argue with you about the effect of porn on marriage but argue that you never want to see Helen Thomas nude on HBO and even the biggest defender of porn has to agree.

Now you've gone ahead and done it...there's now a picture in my head that defies all things decent that I must overcome most likely by extreme measures combined with a drug overdose and a re-start of my heart after 4 minutes so I lose just enough brain function to forget it. LOL!!! You're about right on our agreement not being far off. I look for the people to control this and not ban's. The people can "regulate it" pretty stringently but it will take self-control and a public stigma to put it in its place and a society that does not diminish the value of an intimate relationship and encourage degradation of it in the public square.

47 posted on 01/01/2010 9:48:12 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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