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Judge Carter, 3 sheets to the wind..
American Grand Jury ^ | December 29th, 2009 | Bob Campbell

Posted on 01/01/2010 6:27:46 AM PST by USALiberty

Folks, I often wondered what possessed Judge Carter in California to tell the world “he wanted to try this case on its merits” and then do a sudden 180 by dismissing the case with prejudice? Does the word “arrogance” come to mind? Did the justice system in California just reach the bottom of the barrel? The performance of Judge Carter was totally disgusting to watch.. Oh, and this whoop-ti-do you heard from folks that Carter would do the right thing because he is an EX-Marine.. what happened? Did honor and his oath get flushed on the way to the bench?

I went back and read some of Carter’s words and was stunned by his lack of knowledge of the Constitution or even a basic understanding of what is really going on here.

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To: SvenMagnussen
5. formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer outside the United States (sec. 349 (a) (5) INA);

So what makes you think Bambi did this?

101 posted on 01/01/2010 5:47:52 PM PST by curiosity
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To: SvenMagnussen; Non-Sequitur

“Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.”

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_777.html


102 posted on 01/01/2010 5:50:01 PM PST by PAR35
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To: STARWISE
The Judge forgot to mention the fact that Obama committed FRAUD when taking office.

No, he didn't forget to mention fraud for the simple reason that fraud wasn't proved.

Orly, herself, doesn't have proof of fraud - she only makes accusations. Praise God, that isn't the way our system works.

103 posted on 01/01/2010 7:11:42 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: danamco
If you immigrate to a foreign country, whether minor or not, you have to follow that country’s supreme laws, NOT the laws of the U.S. Period!!!

Nonsense.

104 posted on 01/01/2010 7:12:31 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Beckwith
And why was Robert Bauer’s associate assigned as Judge Carter’s clerk 5 days before the last hearing?

He wasn't "assigned" he was hired, and he wasn't hired five days before the last hearing - that was the day he started work. Most likely he was hired before Obama even declared his candidacy.

105 posted on 01/01/2010 7:30:48 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: USALiberty

bump


106 posted on 01/01/2010 8:49:34 PM PST by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2010)
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To: danamco
Which means that a fraud/crime had then been committed when the usurper submitted sworn applications to the partners involved and they then submitted sworn affidavits to SoS and others within DNC!

Which is the angle that needs to be played.

Go after them on fraud charges, and request the documents they used to determine Obama's NBC status/eligibility as part of discovery.

107 posted on 01/01/2010 9:19:35 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Beckwith

exactly Beckwith!! This is SO arranged. Bauer, the clerk, it all fits!! America is facing a HUGE conspiracy. One that they have never experience before. yeah, there has been shenanigans before but everything PALES in comparison to this situation. You are actually under attack right now America has NO choice but to rise up and physically remove these criminal thugs. That is what they really are - THUGS. They are so high on themselves right now they don’t think that they can fail. The only thing that can’t happen is that America thinks they can overturn them at the next election. Too late!! Far too late. The time is NOW. You realize he is building and arming a “personal” army of street thugs right now. All the while he is weakening the military. It very soon will not be a fair fight. VERY soon. If I sound “out there” just watch”!! CO


109 posted on 01/01/2010 9:25:41 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Cicero

Spot on!! Why didn’t the Judge demand to examine the ‘EVIDENCE”??? Lots of questions here. CO


113 posted on 01/01/2010 9:38:23 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: seekthetruth

Your right except that Nancy PELOUSI signed the forms as if they information were true. There is a whole lot of blame to go around here but that does NOT exempt Obama from being a FRAUD and a USURPER. All I can say is what balls. What arrogance. Also there is far more behind this than just the congress and Senate. America has been invaded already they just don’t know it yet. They will soon. CO


115 posted on 01/01/2010 9:43:44 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Candor7; null and void

Maybe it’s the Port wine!! LOL. Been there. CO


116 posted on 01/01/2010 9:46:26 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I was in the Navy. We tend to look down on Marines, not look them in the eye.

I fail to understand how your answer pertains to Indonesian law, so I'll just assume that you couldn't.
118 posted on 01/01/2010 9:49:50 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Seizethecarp

You honestly make me laugh and get angry at the same time. YOU are a complet and utter gasbag!!


119 posted on 01/01/2010 9:53:09 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Post #100 just showed me who you are. Thank you. CO


121 posted on 01/01/2010 9:59:29 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: lucysmom
No, he didn't forget to mention fraud for the simple reason that fraud wasn't proved.

So, if someone commits fraud and it isn't proven, because the case was never tried, then it didn't happen?

Praise God, that isn't the way our system works.

Praise who? I won't ask you to prove it, but I can assure you that He isn't happy with you for praising Him about the corrupt judges in our system that continue to ignore our Constitution.
122 posted on 01/01/2010 10:07:12 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Judge Carter is an idiot. He must know that Obama does not qualify under Article II of the constitution. And he thinks
that George Bush woukld leave the country defenceless? Dubyah would be president again until a new election was held to replace our “designer” so called president. The romantic notion of a first “black” president blinded everyone, including Carter, who is not upholding the constitution as he is sworn to do. Carter is therefore impeachable.

IMHO, the country is defencelss with Obama in office.


123 posted on 01/01/2010 10:29:13 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Canadian Outrage
Spend your time in doing something usefull to YOU.

I am. I'm doing my part, however insignificant, to keep conservatism from being co-opted by unhinged cranks peddling absurd conspiracies.

Oh yeah, and laughing at Orly and these "American Make-Believe Grand Jury" fools.

124 posted on 01/01/2010 10:34:40 PM PST by Drew68
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To: seekthetruth

I hope you are right, however, the results from failed 60+ law suits makes me doubtful. I believe it has to come from the active military personnel colonels and below!!!


125 posted on 01/01/2010 11:02:13 PM PST by danamco
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To: plenipotentiary

If the Soetoro’s gang are awake you will be inundated with their “answers”!!!


126 posted on 01/01/2010 11:04:50 PM PST by danamco
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To: Brown Deer

The tanned one is flipping!!!


127 posted on 01/01/2010 11:06:21 PM PST by danamco
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To: Non-Sequitur; SvenMagnussen
Before you do that I suggest you point out what makes the statement incorrect.

WOW, I don't need to wait to do that, you have already earned your place in F.R. "Hall of Shame"!

My Father-in-law came here from Holland in 1947 and he had to give up his Dutch citizenship. My brother came here in 1950 and he had to give up his Danish citizenship!!

I came here in 1983 and have to relinquish my Swedish citizenship as well!!!

Now maybe you can understand that your have earned the FREEPER "Hall of Shame" title???

128 posted on 01/01/2010 11:23:52 PM PST by danamco
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To: Canadian Outrage
Their I.Q.s are at display here in the open, when a few of them says that when you immigrate to a foreign country, you DON'T follow that country's laws, but you still only have to follow U.S. laws, hello!!!

Barack Hussein Obama...hmmmm...hmmmm...hmmmm???

129 posted on 01/01/2010 11:37:09 PM PST by danamco
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To: Canadian Outrage

Just there there are eleven paid Soetoro brigade of distractions!!!


130 posted on 01/01/2010 11:54:27 PM PST by danamco
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To: Brown Deer; lucysmom

Amen and Amen!!!


131 posted on 01/01/2010 11:56:09 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

He does that a lot doesn’t he?


132 posted on 01/02/2010 1:54:10 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Canadian Outrage

KNOCK IT OFF!


133 posted on 01/02/2010 5:00:07 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; Canadian Outrage

Knock Off WHAT, please???


134 posted on 01/02/2010 5:59:35 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco; Canadian Outrage

The personal attack posts, which I am now deleting.


135 posted on 01/02/2010 6:01:56 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Brown Deer
I fail to understand how your answer pertains to Indonesian law, so I'll just assume that you couldn't.

Sorry, wrong post. My mistake.

The answer is no, I cannot. Indonesian law can no more supersede U.S. law than U.S. law can supersede Indonesian. If Obama did obtain Indonesian citizenship as a child that did not strip him of his U.S. citizenship. And if Indonesian law had forbidden dual citizenship then it would have been the Indonesian citizenship that was invalid. And nothing in their law could change that.

But I will point out that the Indonesian citizenship laws in effect at the time Obama lived there do not forbid dual citizenship and most likely would not have granted Obama citizenship even if he was formally adopted by Soetoro at the time. So your argument is flawed to begin with. Law on the Citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia

Happy?

136 posted on 01/02/2010 6:37:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: danamco
My Father-in-law came here from Holland in 1947 and he had to give up his Dutch citizenship. My brother came here in 1950 and he had to give up his Danish citizenship!!

That's right, because in order to become a naturalized citizen you are required to voluntarily give up your citizenship. Had your father-in-law or your brother been born here while on a visit to the U.S. then they would have acquired U.S. citizenship and there is nothing that Holland or Denmark could do to prevent it. Likewise, they no doubt would also have been citizens of Holland and Denmark, and there is nothing that the U.S. could do to prevent that. And said U.S. citizenship would continue until they were adults and they voluntarily gave it up.

In retrospect I think that this conversation between us should go into the F.R. "Hall of Shame" as evidence of crass Birther foolishness.

137 posted on 01/02/2010 6:44:47 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Canadian Outrage
Spot on!! Why didn’t the Judge demand to examine the ‘EVIDENCE”???

Well the judge did examine what Orly & Co. provided with their filings, and that wasn't much. But the judge isn't supposed to go on his own witch hunt and demand evidence.

138 posted on 01/02/2010 6:47:25 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Candor7
Judge Carter is an idiot. He must know that Obama does not qualify under Article II of the constitution.

Or maybe he's heard all the lame Birther arguments and decided that Obama does qualify under Article II? Ever think of that?

139 posted on 01/02/2010 6:50:25 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
So your argument is flawed to begin with.

My argument?
140 posted on 01/02/2010 7:58:49 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Likewise, if you were born in a foreign country and lived in the U.S. then U.S. law could not strip you of your foreign citizenship.

Nobody here have challenged this!

In retrospect I think that this conversation between us should go into the F.R. "Hall of Shame" as evidence of crass Birther foolishness.

Your superb spin-machine (Alinsky) and as the superb usurper "After-Birther" member of his distraction brigade, definitely earns you that place in the F.R. "Hall of Fame/Shame!!

I agree, it is total foolishness to even engage in conversation with an "After-Birther" which normally is discarded or grind up for cosmetic purposes.....End of conversation!!!

141 posted on 01/02/2010 8:15:53 AM PST by danamco
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To: 1rudeboy

“The Republic of Vanuatu could pass a law declaring every member of FR its citizens, and that would not mean we “relinquish” our original citizenships.”

Though I would so move there every winter.


142 posted on 01/02/2010 9:49:45 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: Doug Loss

What leads you to that conclusion?


143 posted on 01/02/2010 9:57:53 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: Non-Sequitur

Piss Off! I have no time for the likes of you and your 5th colummn foolishness.


144 posted on 01/02/2010 10:44:08 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Canadian Outrage
I certainly agree there is a great deal of blame to go around where out and out fraud upon us Americans took place. I believe they all knew Obama did not constitutionally qualify to be President and committed fraud in declaring that he was.

I respect all the attorneys who are trying to get to the truth, but especially follow the work of Leo and Steve as I believe they are taking the steps that will finally get the truth out in the open. And they will uphold the laws of our land and the constitution every step of the way. God Bless them!

145 posted on 01/02/2010 12:52:42 PM PST by seekthetruth (MY PRAYER EVERY DAY OF 2010---- PSALM 109:8)
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To: Candor7
Piss Off! I have no time for the likes of you and your 5th colummn foolishness.

But we always have time to question Birther Boobiness.

146 posted on 01/02/2010 1:16:03 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: danamco
Nobody here have challenged this!

Except you in reply 72.

I agree, it is total foolishness to even engage in conversation with an "After-Birther" which normally is discarded or grind up for cosmetic purposes.....End of conversation!!!

But it's so much fun when you do. Birther conspiracy theories give a whole new meaning to the term 'zany'.

147 posted on 01/02/2010 1:19:24 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: El Sordo
What leads you to that conclusion?

If you're referring to this post:

" I think that’s one thing people fail to grasp. The Republic of Vanuatu could pass a law declaring every member of FR its citizens, and that would not mean we “relinquish” our original citizenships.

"No, but it would mean you relinquish your original citizenship if you subsequently apply for a Vanatuan passport."

I would think it's obvious. The Republic of Vanauatu could pass a law declaring every member of FR its citizens, and it would have no effect unless and until you decided to take action upon that declaration and apply for a Vanuatan passport. Your action (and their acceptance of your application) would be a de facto renunciation of your US citizenship under the sections of the USC already quoted.

148 posted on 01/02/2010 1:38:03 PM PST by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

But what does US law say as opposed to how we might think things ought to be?


149 posted on 01/02/2010 2:24:48 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo
As I said before:

"Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain specified acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Briefly stated, these acts include:

1. obtaining naturalization in a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA); 2. taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA);"

The acceptance of a Vanuatuan passport woluld be prima facie evidence for the relinquishment of US citizenship, in that you'd have to perform one of the other of these two conditions (most likely the second, as Vanuatu would already have naturalized you with your permission). The application for the Vanuatuan passport would show a positive intention to relinquish US citizenship.

150 posted on 01/02/2010 3:55:04 PM PST by Doug Loss
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