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Judge Carter, 3 sheets to the wind..
American Grand Jury ^ | December 29th, 2009 | Bob Campbell

Posted on 01/01/2010 6:27:46 AM PST by USALiberty

Folks, I often wondered what possessed Judge Carter in California to tell the world “he wanted to try this case on its merits” and then do a sudden 180 by dismissing the case with prejudice? Does the word “arrogance” come to mind? Did the justice system in California just reach the bottom of the barrel? The performance of Judge Carter was totally disgusting to watch.. Oh, and this whoop-ti-do you heard from folks that Carter would do the right thing because he is an EX-Marine.. what happened? Did honor and his oath get flushed on the way to the bench?

I went back and read some of Carter’s words and was stunned by his lack of knowledge of the Constitution or even a basic understanding of what is really going on here.

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To: Cicero
But I see no reason why Judge Carter should not have acted—other than tremendous pressure on him not to.

Indeed, he should have acted. Although he does not have the authority to oust a sitting "president", he could find that the occupier of the White House failed to prove his bono fides and demand that they be produced.

There are only a few moves at that point for Team 0bama (Obama, Fvck Ya!):

Put up or
Show their contempt of court or
Appeal

I don't think they can put up.

Contempt of court? Dunno, I think he has some immunity as long as he is in office.

An appeal would garner more daylight than the cockroaches can tolerate. Besides, it might actually get to the Supreme Court.

Carter should have 'kicked it upstairs', IMHO

51 posted on 01/01/2010 9:39:51 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 345 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void
Its interestinng that everytime we are over the target, all this flack shows up, and there is an attempted redefinition o f waht is fact, as if there iuus a sepearate Oba world in which we all should be living rather than the world where facts are not particularly variable.

And the secondary effect ois that folks are re;uctant to post because they will be attacked by a bunch of Obama d*ck sucking trolls.

Its actually a laugh.

When Obama shows why he has spent 2 million bucks in defending cases designed to keep his defacto borth information secret, then I will be happy. These trolls can eat it now, and get out of town. Its only a matter of time now.

52 posted on 01/01/2010 9:44:03 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Candor7

Spelt cheque is my friend


53 posted on 01/01/2010 9:51:26 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 345 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Rapscallion; USALiberty
Even the President, once he is sworn in, is entitled to due process under the procedure for presidential removal (impeachment) in the US Constitution. Use it, or lose it.

"A criminal cannot profit from his own misdeeds." has been a basic holding in all courts.

If I scam 100K, play the ponies or markets and gain 1Million before I get caught on the original 100K, I cannot use the 900K to effect my defense.

Soetoro is a fraud; by allowing him to use the restrictions necessary for a validly seated President allows him profit from his crime. As he is not valid as President, he cannot use the Presidency as a shield against his arrest and trial as a criminal.

54 posted on 01/01/2010 9:59:36 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! )
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To: null and void
“Although he does not have the authority to oust a sitting “president”, he could find that the occupier of the White House failed to prove his bono fides and demand that they be produced.”

Judge Carter could not make this finding because what you have described is the definition of “quo warranto”. Under separation of powers, quo warranto is reserved to Congress which has delegated its quo warranto authority to only the DC Circuit, not to any other federal circuit court, such as Judge Carter's.

Taitz and Kreep even admitted this, but unrealistically (or disingenuously) thought they could persuade Carter that he should hear a quo warranto claim because in their view, the DC Circuit had shown bias. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think any federal judge would grant jurisdiction based on such a vague, unsubstantiated allegation by a plaintiff against a fellow sitting federal judge.

Now, with D’Onofrio’s impending quo warranto filing in the DC Circuit for the Chrysler dealers, we have potentially the right plaintifs in the right court with an available remedy, if SCOTUS will agree ultimately, that quo warranto applies to POTUS.>

55 posted on 01/01/2010 10:02:30 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: null and void

Exactly. All he had to do was require that Obama make his birth information available to the court. If Obama denies that the Kenyan birth certificate is legimate, then he can prove it by providing his Hawaiian birth records to the court.

That is not unreasonable. It would be required in almost any situation where the facts are in question. For example, Obama’s birth records were provided to the divorce court judge when his mother divorced his father, although they have since mysteriously disappeared from the divorce file.

Providing proof of birth is a routine matter.


56 posted on 01/01/2010 10:04:48 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Seizethecarp

Quo warranto is an alternative legal path. It is not the only path.


57 posted on 01/01/2010 10:06:22 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: null and void

Sorry, too hurried! Spelt check ins indeed my fiend.


58 posted on 01/01/2010 10:08:13 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: seekthetruth; penelopesire; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

Worthwhile points ... yet I will continue to have serious issues with factors in this entire dark chapter, until the entire truth is revealed ... and it always is eventually.

* the repercussions the citizenry would have a
right to expect could accrue to any perpetrator
who could have purposely submitted false information
on official candidacy documents (be that at
state or federal level), even if that information
was discovered after the fact.

We have noted the onus is on the state secs of state,
election boards and parties (which is no credible
onus at all), but IF any crime were committed in that
process, is that crime simply absolved and voided
because no one was diligent enough to uphold their
sworn oath of responsibility, do their job and require
conclusive verification of submitted facts?

* the very fact that Siddharth Velamoor, a legal grunt
from Robert Bauer’s Perkins Coie law firm, (Bauer being
the DNC attorney, Obama personal attorney, and now
WH counsel and a very aggressive and threatening shark),
was ‘coincidentally’ assigned as a clerk to Judge Carter
in the WEEK before the Oct. 5 hearing reeks of Chicago thug
politics ..the very in-your-face brand this crew employs.

I don’t believe there are coincidences with these cretins,
and I would find it fantasy to believe that Judge Carter
didn’t know that well-known fact. It appears he
deliberately chose to discard that unethical issue and
permitted that smelly connection to be associated with his
court.

Albeit, dealing with the theatrics and frequently
outlandish courtroom antics of Taitz were challenging
and fractious mazes to traverse, he is still responsible
entirely for his judicial sector and its integrity, if
his judgments are to be accepted with total trust and
confidence from the citizenry, which is vital for an
orderly government to exist.

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The following is information I was able to cull readily from the official Federal Elections Commission website for disbursements from the Obama campaign to the law firm of Perkins Coie, which is or did represent Obama in various eligibility suits. The FEC links follow the entries.

October quarterly:
Perkins Coie 314,018.06
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q3/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

July 2009 quarterly:
Perkins Coie 270,754.18
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q2/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

April quarterly
Perkins Coie 688,316.42
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q1/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

Year-End 2008
Perkins Coie 173,052.52
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/YE/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

Amended post-general election:
Perkins Coie 205,323.00
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/30G/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

That adds up to $1,651,464.18

Perkins Coie does not appear in the pre-general election filing or a few others I checked randomly. You are free to pursue any further information that is of interest. But one would assume that the official FEC website to which the Obama and other campaigns must report their financial activity would be taken by even the most skeptical among us as valid documentation of the reported $1.4 or $1.8, or anything in between, figure expended to defend the eligibility suits.

This information is about the legal fees only of that one law firm, not the DOJ attorneys, court time, or other related costs.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2395463/posts?page=42#42

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“Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother.” That’s what President Barack Obama said to Rep. Peter DeFazio in a closed-door meeting of the House Democratic Caucus last week, according to the Associated Press.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2220435/posts


59 posted on 01/01/2010 10:11:00 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: USALiberty

“Kenyan Usurper”

As yet unproven, but it’s an issue that won’t die, that is for sure.


60 posted on 01/01/2010 10:12:46 AM PST by Grunthor (Fire Jim Mora. From a 155 Howitzer, due west of Seattle over the water.)
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To: Cicero
Providing proof of birth is a routine matter.

It is if you can.

61 posted on 01/01/2010 10:16:24 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 345 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
Not true. You're confusing a situation where a minor is still living in the U.S.A with a minor who has permanently moved to a country outside of the U.S.A. It's xenophobic to assume a U.S. citizen would never renounce their citizenship to become a citizen of the country they are living in. Minors have as much right to pursue citizenship outside of the U.S. as an adult.

A U.S. citizen can renounce their citizenship in favor of citizenship in another country. But they can only do it as an adult. They cannot do it as a minor. Link.

62 posted on 01/01/2010 10:23:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: 1rudeboy; USALiberty

What headlines, where and whose???


63 posted on 01/01/2010 10:27:11 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

The headline at the top of this thread, silly.


64 posted on 01/01/2010 10:28:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: danamco
If you live (permanently ?) in another country you have to follow that country’s laws, NOT U.S. laws!!!

But regardless of where you're living, local laws do not negate U.S. law. If you are born in the U.S. then you are a U.S. citizen, and foreign laws pertaining to dual citizenship cannot change that. Likewise, if you were born in a foreign country and lived in the U.S. then U.S. law could not strip you of your foreign citizenship. A person born in the U.S. can only relinquish their citizenship voluntarily. They cannot have it taken away from them, by U.S. law or foreign law. And they can only relinquish it as an adult through a deliberate act on their part.

65 posted on 01/01/2010 10:29:00 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: seekthetruth; The Man; STARWISE; LucyT; Brytani; Rafterman; katiekins1; BP2; rodguy911; ...
But please stop crying about a judge who did his job and followed the law.

See post 17???

66 posted on 01/01/2010 10:33:09 AM PST by danamco
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To: null and void

Hey it’s only New Years day!!!


67 posted on 01/01/2010 10:40:22 AM PST by danamco
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To: STARWISE
"Don't think we're not keeping score, brother." That's what President Barack Obama said to Rep. Peter DeFazio in a closed-door meeting of the House Democratic Caucus last week, according to the Associated Press.

And don't think "We're" not also keeping score of those that have aided and abetted a cheap hustler's usurpation of the executive office of President of the United States.

A pox on their house!

STE=Q

68 posted on 01/01/2010 10:41:14 AM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: danamco

Yup ... it’s a riddle, wrapped in a mystery,
inside an enigma, as Winston Churchill said.


69 posted on 01/01/2010 10:42:21 AM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: brityank

His crime/fraud is no different than that of Madoff, ‘nuf said!!!


70 posted on 01/01/2010 10:43:13 AM PST by danamco
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To: Non-Sequitur

If you immigrate to a foreign country, whether minor or not, you have to follow that country’s supreme laws, NOT the laws of the U.S. Period!!!


71 posted on 01/01/2010 10:59:22 AM PST by danamco
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To: Non-Sequitur; SvenMagnussen
Likewise, if you were born in a foreign country and lived in the U.S. then U.S. law could not strip you of your foreign citizenship.

How do YOU know that???

This statement ought/needs to be filed in F.R.'s Hall of Shame, LOL!!!

72 posted on 01/01/2010 11:07:04 AM PST by danamco
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To: USALiberty

Even Congress is in on this treason.


73 posted on 01/01/2010 11:11:29 AM PST by Waco (Never have so many strove so hard to commit treason.)
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To: Cicero
“Exactly. All he had to do was require that Obama make his birth information available to the court. If Obama denies that the Kenyan birth certificate is legitimate, then he can prove it by providing his Hawaiian birth records to the court.

“That is not unreasonable. It would be required in almost any situation where the facts are in question. For example, Obama’s birth records were provided to the divorce court judge when his mother divorced his father, although they have since mysteriously disappeared from the divorce file.”

We don't know what the missing page is from the Dunham-Obama divorce file. In HI, marriage records are protected from public disclosure, so the missing page could have been the Dunham-Obama marriage record. Subsequently HI has disclosed that a “vital record index” for the marriage exists, so it might have been the missing page. It also could be Barry's vital record of birth, also disclosed to exist, but not released by HI.

Unfortunately, under the Federal Rules of Evidence (FRE), a COLB short form, such as the one with minimal information (lack of location, hospital and doctor) that the Obama campaign gave to Factcheck, if submitted to Judge Carter would have been legally “self-authenticating” and sufficient to prove Obama’s HI birth, absent legally admissible rebuttal evidence.

Unfortunately, under the FRE, as a foreign BC, Smith's Kenya BC for Obama is not “self-authenticating”. Thus it required official authentication from Kenya which was not put before Judge Carter by Taitz.

Bottom line, an HI COLB will get into evidence under the FRE in any federal court and be accepted on its face as proof of HI birth unless refuted, while a Kenya BC without official Kenya government authentication cannot refute an HI COLB, cannot be relied on by a federal court judge and won't raise a requirement that it be refuted by Obama.

Transparency is electing to release documents that one is entitled to withhold in the interest of removing any appearance of improper or illegitimate action. Obama is shamelessly violating his promise of transparency as he declassifies and releases formerly top secret docs going back decades while refusing to release his own original HI vital records just because he is entitled to.

74 posted on 01/01/2010 12:04:43 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: danamco
I agree with you that Obama committed fraud on the American people but I believe the only way he will be removed from office is through impeachment once the truth comes out.

I have great confidence in Leo and Steve and believe they will be successful in defending our constitution and the rights of the Chrysler Dealers. It is just a matter of time and the usurper will be removed from office. :)

In the meantime we all need to work together at our state level to support and vote for constitutional conservative candidates who are running for Congress!

75 posted on 01/01/2010 12:06:39 PM PST by seekthetruth (MY PRAYER EVERY DAY OF 2010---- PSALM 109:8)
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To: All

JB Williams
Canada Free Press

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots on FR don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded


76 posted on 01/01/2010 12:09:42 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: USALiberty

The Question is: Can someone who is not a Natural Born Citizen be President of the United States?

Can I have your answers please?


77 posted on 01/01/2010 12:21:50 PM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: null and void
Don’t step in the troll...

Step on to squash the rat trolls...

78 posted on 01/01/2010 12:23:35 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: The Man
To slander this judge by calling him drunk and not knowing what he was doing is something that reflects poorly on the attempts to get to the truth of Barack Obama’s true origins.

It just shows that Orly Taitz isn't the only damned-fool whackadoodle out there.

79 posted on 01/01/2010 12:25:43 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Red Steel

Hmmmmm...not too many rat trolls on this thread yet. They must be still too drunk from last night.


80 posted on 01/01/2010 12:28:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: STARWISE
Slick, really slick,they have heinz 57 hidden in there,if caught they can claim almost anything they want.
Anyway to get further detail on any of these expenditures?
81 posted on 01/01/2010 12:36:56 PM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: USALiberty

The comments to this article are very interesting.


82 posted on 01/01/2010 12:39:35 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Red Steel

If you must.

But don’t wear your good shoes!


83 posted on 01/01/2010 1:24:12 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 345 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Markos33

84 posted on 01/01/2010 1:26:12 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Can you?


85 posted on 01/01/2010 1:33:58 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Non-Sequitur
“How can Judge Carter look another Marine in the eye?”

“Very easily. IMHO, of course.”

Seconded. This kind of stuff is simply sad and offensive. Here you have a judge who bent over backward to display courtesy and professionalism to a “lawyer” worthy of neither. That speaks directly to the kind of man he is.

Then when he reaches the legally correct decision, the same people who were holding him up as a shining knight bare their fangs with juvenile and wretched attacks on his character. That speaks directly to the type of people they are.

If you are a combat veteran and direct that kind of mindless venom at Judge Carter, you simply dishonor your own service. If you aren't a combat veteran and are pulling these stunts, you are beneath contempt.

86 posted on 01/01/2010 1:45:05 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative; LucyT; USALiberty; STARWISE; wintertime; null and void; seekthetruth; ...
Here you have a judge who bent over backward...

Then when he reaches the legally correct decision...


Judge Carter wrote: “In order for Plaintiffs’ alleged injury to be fully addressed, Plaintiffs would have the Court intervene, upheave the results of a national election, declare the President illegitimate, shut down the functioning of the government of the United States, and leave this country defenseless."
87 posted on 01/01/2010 2:21:10 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
“In order for Plaintiffs’ alleged injury to be fully addressed, Plaintiffs would have the Court intervene, upheave the results of a national election, declare the President illegitimate, shut down the functioning of the government of the United States, and leave this country defenseless.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Huh?

88 posted on 01/01/2010 2:29:29 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Brown Deer
Judge Carter wrote: “In order for Plaintiffs’ alleged injury to be fully addressed, Plaintiffs would have the Court intervene, upheave the results of a national election, declare the President illegitimate, shut down the functioning of the government of the United States, and leave this country defenseless."

Really? Why wouldn't Biden simply become president? He is next in line. He is a Natural Born Citizen. His ticket did receive the most popular and electoral college votes.

89 posted on 01/01/2010 2:34:10 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 345 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Brown Deer

You know, there is a context to that quote. It’s part of an integrated bases for a legal decision. But then, people who have no understanding of what he’s talking about, the law in general, the fact that standing is part of the merits of a case, or even what merit is in a legal context, continue to rant and spew that a decent judge didn’t satisfy their keen analytical minds.

There are words for people like that. Hint: patriot isn’t one of them.


90 posted on 01/01/2010 2:40:24 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Ping to some dude from “American Make-Believe Grand Jury” trying to score points with Orly by calling Judge Carter a drunk.


91 posted on 01/01/2010 2:48:27 PM PST by Drew68
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To: SvenMagnussen

Your list is out of date , as of 2004 you can gain Philippine citizenship with no requirement to renounce your current citizenship.


92 posted on 01/01/2010 3:04:45 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: rodguy911

No .. they’re listed on the FEC reports
just as legal expenses. And there are
more law firms than just Perkins Coie.


93 posted on 01/01/2010 4:16:03 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Brown Deer
Can you?

I was in the Navy. We tend to look down on Marines, not look them in the eye.

94 posted on 01/01/2010 5:04:37 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: danamco
If you immigrate to a foreign country, whether minor or not, you have to follow that country’s supreme laws, NOT the laws of the U.S. Period!!!

You are wrong. Period.

95 posted on 01/01/2010 5:05:29 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: danamco
How do YOU know that???

What gives the U.S. the power to do that? To say to a native of Great Britain, for example, that they are no longer a British citizen? What authority do we have to do that? Please, enlighten us.

This statement ought/needs to be filed in F.R.'s Hall of Shame, LOL!!!

Before you do that I suggest you point out what makes the statement incorrect.

96 posted on 01/01/2010 5:09:32 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: plenipotentiary
The Question is: Can someone who is not a Natural Born Citizen be President of the United States?

No.

97 posted on 01/01/2010 5:12:01 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: STARWISE

From what little I have seen it would take forensic accountant to find out what really happened,where the money really went.


98 posted on 01/01/2010 5:18:37 PM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Candor7
It is truly amazing how often we revisit the definition of “Is”.
99 posted on 01/01/2010 5:19:49 PM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: mlo; Non-Sequitur; parsifal; Pilsner; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; El Sordo; MilspecRob; ...

Thanks, Drew68.

Ping to unconscionable accusations against Judge Carter.


100 posted on 01/01/2010 5:29:52 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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