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Pop Star to Opera Star: TV won't make any pig's ear the next Domingo
The Daily Telegraph ^ | January 4, 2010 | Rupert Christiansen

Posted on 01/05/2010 4:16:38 PM PST by EveningStar

Even though I guess I shall be glued to the screen, I can’t say I’m thrilled to see that ITV is about to launch (on January 15) a new “classical reality” show entitled Pop Star to Opera Star.

The basic idea isn’t a bad one - pop performers like Kym Marsh, Darius Danesh (now Darius Campbell), and Alex James will be trained and ‘mentored’ to sing opera arias...

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: itv; opera; popstartooperastar; uk; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 01/05/2010 4:16:39 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Borges; sitetest

ping


2 posted on 01/05/2010 4:17:04 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

It is bound to be an utter disaster.


3 posted on 01/05/2010 4:17:54 PM PST by Palladin (Obama as President? "Totally unacceptable.")
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To: Palladin

It’s in the UK - for now.


4 posted on 01/05/2010 4:19:29 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I don’t know anything about the singers named, or that show.

I do know that pop singers who started out doing religious and/or school choir/chorus singing are trainable to sing opera, even if they took a detour through the pop/country genre along the way.

Posture, breathing, diaphragm control etc once learned is not forgotten.


5 posted on 01/05/2010 4:20:15 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

The show is in the UK.


6 posted on 01/05/2010 4:31:05 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar; .30Carbine; 1rudeboy; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 31R1O; ADemocratNoMore; ...
Dear EveningStar,

Thanks for the ping!

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sitetest

7 posted on 01/05/2010 4:35:15 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: EveningStar

Might be interesting. There are some pop and country singers who have very nice voices, and if properly trained they could probably sing the classical repertoire creditably. Could they sing well in Italian, French, Russian, Latin, German . . .? Mmmm, that’s another question.


8 posted on 01/05/2010 5:05:01 PM PST by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: EveningStar

Isn’t there some kind of opera singer wannabe show on already?


9 posted on 01/05/2010 6:15:00 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: EveningStar

Most “opera singers” can’t sing opera well. Pop stars?

Opera is the ‘extreme sport’ of singing. Most pop stars couldn’t shine the shoes of a trained opera singer. There are exceptions like Steve Perry, Mariah Carey, etc. have amazing voices and skill—but they have/had microphones. Try being heard without a mic in a 5,000 seat theater over a full orchestra.

If you didn’t know, opera is extremely high, extremely long and only a fraction of those who can sing, can sing opera.

This is why Pavarotti’s voice touched people so profoundly—it’s a sound that we don’t hear very often, it’s a one-in-billions voice.

If Grobin or Bocelli is your idea of an opera singer, and Phantom of the Opera is your idea of opera, then this might work for you.

To those who love opera this will likely be a bad joke.

These are opera singers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VATmgtmR5o4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oG4cLyigq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PYt2HlBuyI


10 posted on 01/05/2010 6:20:03 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: Boucheau
Sherill Milnes, "Tosca" (Puccinni), Te Deum
11 posted on 01/05/2010 7:55:13 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Boucheau
Tom Krause, "Toreador", Carmen (Bizet)
12 posted on 01/05/2010 8:02:36 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Boucheau
Bryan Hymel
13 posted on 01/05/2010 8:15:34 PM PST by chemicalman
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To: stylecouncilor

“Just like Palmieri.”


14 posted on 01/05/2010 8:35:26 PM PST by onedoug
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To: chemicalman

Bryan Hymel sings Di quella pira?

Talk about fach abuse.

Nice high notes.


15 posted on 01/05/2010 8:58:09 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: Boucheau

Very good selection - i didn’t know that any Bjorling & Tebaldi “Boheme” was available on video at all.

It’s a pity that Pavarotti’s voice in his later year/recordings had (IMO) deteriorated so. I admit to being partial to Bjorling (and to a lesser extent Domingo & Corelli), but i must admit that Pavarotti’s Calaf in the 1974 recording of Turandot (with Joan Sutherland as Turandot and Zubin Mehta conducting) is absolutely superb.

Thanks for posting.


16 posted on 01/05/2010 10:19:22 PM PST by eddiespaghetti ( (with the meatball eyes) ("Deinen leichten Sinn lass dich denn leiten . . . "))
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To: Boucheau

You’re absolutely right. Most so-called opera singers don’t sing opera well. I thought I didn’t like opera, having been to several local opera productions and not enjoying the singing at all. Then I stumbled on a CD of arias by excellent singers such as Kiri Te Kanawa, Placido Domingo, etc., and I was hooked in an instant. I realized then that I didn’t like BAD opera! LOL!


17 posted on 01/05/2010 11:15:44 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (PETRAEUS IN 2012 ..... PETRAEUS IN 2012 ..... PETRAEUS IN 2012!)
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To: onedoug

Sherill Milnes, “Tosca” (Puccinni), Te Deum

Wow! Just wow! Perfect for Milnes.

I love Tosca. The opera is great too.

Tom Krause, “Toreador”, Carmen (Bizet)

Awesome!

I loved Carmen once, before I killed her. Eh bien! damnée!


18 posted on 01/05/2010 11:29:28 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: Boucheau
I loved Carmen once, before I killed her.

Me too. And many others.

19 posted on 01/05/2010 11:59:56 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Boucheau
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau sings Schuberts "Ain De Musik"
20 posted on 01/06/2010 12:28:33 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Boucheau
One more: Walter Berry, Il Catologo e Questo, "Don Giovanni" (Mozart)
21 posted on 01/06/2010 12:44:14 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Boucheau

Touche, Boucheau.

Most people who watch this sort of program probably have no idea what opera is — or how to appreciate opera, which is in itself a bit of an art form.

With rare exceptions, no one can sing properly (much less inspiring) opera, unless they began serious musical studies in childhood and vocal training by age 14 at the latest.

Susan Boyle, Mariah Carey and others like them may be gifted with a naturally pleasing sound. They can be “coached” stylistically and learn little vocal tricks, and be further enhanced by the extremely sophisticated engineers running the sound board.

But put them in a room with no equipment, no mic, and no fancy emotional tricks used on all these “star” programs, and I don’t believe anyone would be impressed.


22 posted on 01/08/2010 3:32:54 PM PST by baa39
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