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Pellet Gun For Within-City-Limits Varmit Control
Freerepublic ^ | 01/12/2010 | Jewbacca

Posted on 01/12/2010 9:13:29 AM PST by Jewbacca

I have got squirrels all over my damn house, ruining flower beds, getting in the attic, etc. Some idiot introduced them (they are not native) to our town and they are going crazy with no natural predators.

I live in a city (suburb) where the discharge of firearms is rather disfavored.

My friends and neighbors have opted for the pellet gun approach --- some with the C02 pistol spray-and-pray approach --- some with the scoped rifled (nailed one myself at a friend's house at 30 yards).

I know squat about pellet guns, other than they come in .177 and .22.

Recomendations?


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1 posted on 01/12/2010 9:13:34 AM PST by Jewbacca
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To: Jewbacca

welllll...a .22 is really just a big cylindrical pellet...


2 posted on 01/12/2010 9:14:57 AM PST by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: stefanbatory

True, but the holes in my neighbor’s house would be unneighborly.


3 posted on 01/12/2010 9:16:32 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

.22 cal benjamin is awesome, but you cannot discharge pellet guns within city limits either. It is a violation of the law. If anyone reports you, police will come.


4 posted on 01/12/2010 9:17:00 AM PST by chris37
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To: Jewbacca

http://gamowhisper.com/

I use a .177 Gamo with field point pellets at ~1000 fps and it does work on squirrels out to 20-30 yards.

Since I am in a rural area, I often also use a smoothbore .22 (garden gun) with .22 shotshells. It’s louder than a pellet gun, but #12 shot will not travel more than 150 feet even if the gun is fired at a 30-40 degree angle.


5 posted on 01/12/2010 9:18:06 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Jewbacca

—here’s something else you need to know—

http://www.backwoodsbound.com/xsquirrel.html


6 posted on 01/12/2010 9:18:10 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: chris37

Benjamin is a brand?

Understand re: the law. But they don’t go “bang,” ergo unlikely to be reported.


7 posted on 01/12/2010 9:18:10 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

.177 or 22 are fine. I’ve had success with either. In my experience, .177 is easier to find around the stores.


8 posted on 01/12/2010 9:18:36 AM PST by Palter
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To: Jewbacca
I've got a Crossman that I've owned since I was 15 and it's still potent squirrel medicine.
9 posted on 01/12/2010 9:19:13 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Jewbacca
Pyramyd Air Gun Mall has a huge array of pellet guns for sale, and offers advice on what to buy.

http://www.pyramydair.com/

10 posted on 01/12/2010 9:20:06 AM PST by hellbender
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To: Jewbacca

Also, check with your city laws, some places allow for varmit control. Serious. So it wouldn’t be a big deal if your in your yard shooting them. I dunno, if you doing your shooting out the window, etc.


11 posted on 01/12/2010 9:20:15 AM PST by Palter
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To: Jewbacca
I like the Ruger® Blackhawk® .177 cal. Air Rifle with 4x32 mm Scope because I like Ruger.

I don't think there is a tremendous amount of difference among the various brands you can get at Walmart and other retailers.

I have a Crossman/Benjamin .22, but the .177 has much higher velocity (1000 fps versus 650 fps), so they are probably about equal for small varmints.

12 posted on 01/12/2010 9:20:27 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Jewbacca

DCON works great.I use it here in the sticks


13 posted on 01/12/2010 9:20:52 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Jewbacca

In your situation it is better to use rat traps baited with peanut butter. Nail them to a tree or leave them on the ground. Guaranteed success.


14 posted on 01/12/2010 9:21:19 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Jewbacca

If any noise is an issue, remove a window screen and fire through the open window from 8-10 feet back inside the room, that will further dampen things, plus you will not be visible.


15 posted on 01/12/2010 9:21:49 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Jewbacca

I have an RWS “Diana” .177 cal rifle. Very effective, though a little slow in the reloading department. Good muzzle velocity, especially with the newer “PBA” pellets.

I seem to do better with the iron sights than with the scope.

If you’re going after squirrels, this would be a good choice


16 posted on 01/12/2010 9:21:51 AM PST by Mobties
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To: rellimpank

he also needs this part of the site:

http://www.backwoodsbound.com/zsquir.html


17 posted on 01/12/2010 9:22:07 AM PST by sticker
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To: Jewbacca
Sheridan Blue Streak pump. 19mm pellets. Rifled barrel. 675 fps. Under $200.


18 posted on 01/12/2010 9:22:10 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Jewbacca

Pay your $200.00 tax for a suppressor, and buy a Gemtech Outback II (www.gem-tech.com).


19 posted on 01/12/2010 9:22:54 AM PST by DCBryan1 (wake me when the shooting starts....then I will go feed the hogs.)
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To: Jewbacca

I kind of like the idea of putting those glue traps in strategic areas of the backyard...


20 posted on 01/12/2010 9:23:43 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: Jewbacca
Yep, Benjamin is the brand, Sheridan is the model. The stock is all wood, and everything else is brass. Thing is though, if you pump the gun ten times, it sounds just about like a .22 cal rifle firing. It's a loud pop. My neighbors called the cops on me for firing this weapon when I was a kid in Louisiana many years ago. This is an excellent pellet gun.
21 posted on 01/12/2010 9:23:51 AM PST by chris37
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To: Jewbacca

A .177 works well, get as close to 1000 fps as you can. I bought a 1 cock, as opposed to a pump up, at a bulk tools sale for $20. It murders the fuzzy tailed rats. Kill them all before they move into your attic


22 posted on 01/12/2010 9:24:04 AM PST by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: Jewbacca

Yeah, check your city and state codes (county?) to make sure pellet guns aren’t classified as firearms for purposes of discharge within city limits and to make sure doing so doesn’t violate any other laws.


23 posted on 01/12/2010 9:24:09 AM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: Jewbacca

Another approach I’ve used, once the ground squirrels out here got very wary was to get a live trap. Once trapped, they can be taken into the garage and dispatched.

You can’t miss with a Havahart. Not sporting, but what the heck.


24 posted on 01/12/2010 9:24:23 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Jewbacca

I have an RWS side-lever air rifle in .177 cal. I believe it is accurate and powerful enough to do away with squirrels.

Chinese air rifles that I have seen are crap. IMO.

Are squirrels Kosher?


25 posted on 01/12/2010 9:24:27 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Jewbacca
Squirrel Recipes
26 posted on 01/12/2010 9:26:11 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Jewbacca

Which ever you choose, I’d stick with a single pump “break barrel”. When it comes time to rid the yard of male cats, the quiet aspect of a single pump is much appreciated.


27 posted on 01/12/2010 9:26:25 AM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: Hacklehead
"...In your situation it is better to use rat traps baited with peanut butter..."

I tried this method and failed. I used peanut butter as a glue to affix birdseed to the trap. I nailed them to a tree trunk, 6 feet up, so my cats would not get to them. Every day I came home to an empty trap: No squirel, and no more peanut butter/birdsseed either. I used plain old rat traps, which look like big moustraps.

28 posted on 01/12/2010 9:27:30 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (BLOAT: Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
675fps? Pshaw.

Gamo Big Cat .177 Caliber Air Rifle w/ Scope 1200 FPS

29 posted on 01/12/2010 9:27:38 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The whisper looks like a good solution.

Do you have to sight in the scope or does it come as a package more-or-less sighted in?


30 posted on 01/12/2010 9:28:06 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Sheridan Blue Streak, with wood stocks. I’ve had the cheaper Crossman gun— they don’t last. In any event, stay away from the plastic stocks guns, if you can. A .177 pellet is sufficient for varmint control.


31 posted on 01/12/2010 9:28:09 AM PST by mikeus_maximus ("I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.")
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-—Gamo has several quiet models, including one called the “Whisper”—they have a muzzle brake that acts as a sound suppressor—


33 posted on 01/12/2010 9:28:35 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank

They are not kosher. Going in the dumpster.


34 posted on 01/12/2010 9:28:49 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Nice gun, I have one that’s about 40 years old. My real favorite though is my QB78 in .22 Cost 100 bucks and with a little modification shoots 750 fps. Amazingly accurate too.


35 posted on 01/12/2010 9:29:02 AM PST by refermech
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To: Jewbacca

I don’t know. They likely have it close. Of course, sighting in isn’t difficult given your access to the FR firearms experts.

Be sure to sight it in with the ammo you’ll be using.


36 posted on 01/12/2010 9:30:36 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“Are squirrels Kosher?”

No. Nor are my neighbors cajun. But they do have dogs.


37 posted on 01/12/2010 9:31:33 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

http://www.kania.net/squirrel-trapping.htm


38 posted on 01/12/2010 9:31:58 AM PST by DogBarkTree
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They are not kosher.

The one's out here are plague carriers. I live at boubonic ground zero.

39 posted on 01/12/2010 9:32:57 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Jewbacca
My in-laws bought a strobe light with a motion sensor for the attic. The squirrels can't stand it!
40 posted on 01/12/2010 9:33:05 AM PST by Between the Lines (For their sins of 50 million abortions God gave them over to be an ObamaNation {Romans 1:24-32})
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To: Jewbacca
Most any .177 pellet rifle will do fine, although I personally prefer a single-pump break-open style gun.

Others have said it, but I will stress it again: do not let anyone see you shooting ANYTHING within city limits!

41 posted on 01/12/2010 9:33:10 AM PST by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: Jewbacca

Crossman 760. They’ve been making them for decades. Its a pump - no CO2 cylinders. Pump it 10 time and hit the varmint with a pellet and thats it for the critter.
Its cheap, too - $20-$30.


42 posted on 01/12/2010 9:33:52 AM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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To: jboot

I am not worried about my back yard, but I have several large oaks and pecans in the front yard, which are just as infested.

Thinking about a pistol for concealment purposes; just get under the tree and shot about 10 times.


43 posted on 01/12/2010 9:35:39 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: rellimpank

I actually have a Gamo .22 cal break barrel right now for the purposes of varmit control in the back yard. It’s a smooth bore that fires both pellets and shot shells.

It does not have a muzzle break, but I have noticed that if you fire it without a pellet, it is louder than a .22 rifle. However when fired with a pellet or a shot shell, all you can really hear is the the sound of the spring decompressing. I have fired it from within the house into the bird feeder (at pesky squirrels who refuse to eat the seeds on the ground that I put out for them), so it seems impossible that my neighbors will hear it.

The only thing that I do not like about this Gamo break barrel is that it only has a shot gun bead sight. It is very hard to be accurate with a pellet with that sight and the smooth bore barrel. I bought a 25 $ cheapy laser sight for it, but the spring decompression actually produces a kick that is strong enough to un-sight the laser every time it is fired.

Oh and the shotgun shells are deadly for Mr. Squirrel, but they are quite expensive compared to pellets. I do love my Gamo, but I’ll never forget that Benjamin Sheridan from when I was a kid.


44 posted on 01/12/2010 9:37:26 AM PST by chris37
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To: Jewbacca

Dogs gotta eat ... same as buzzards.

If you shoot from within your house, most of the report will be muffled. Also, nobody will see you waving a rifle around.

FWIW.


45 posted on 01/12/2010 9:38:06 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Jewbacca
A Beaman Kodiak in .22 pellet with scope is an awesome squirrel gun.

However, try a Have A heart live trap....they work great when baited with peanuts.........then dispose of the squirrel any way you want.

FWIW, I caught 4 squirrels and a possum in the course of a week two weeks ago in my trap.......

46 posted on 01/12/2010 9:41:22 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: Jewbacca

I have a Sheridan pump. Accurate, affordable and quiet.

And a .22 CB or BB round will do the same job at about the same noise level.

If you’re a lousy shot and noise isn’t a concern, a Mossberg 12 ga with 00 buck is a good choice. You may have to relandscape, however.


47 posted on 01/12/2010 9:41:43 AM PST by Dick Bachert (.THE 2010 PRECINCT MEETINGS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES. BE THERE!!)
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To: Jewbacca

Whatever solution you choose has to overcome the reproduction curve. That is, it has to eliminate the squirrels faster than they breed.

One solution might be a “death barrel”, with a fast, spring lid, so that when the squirrel goes for the bait, they drop into the barrel. The bottom of the barrel is charged daily with carbon dioxide from vinegar and baking soda. So as soon as the squirrel drops and hits the bottom, it suffocates with its first breath. Since CO2 is heavier than air, the barrel will stay charged until the dead squirrels are emptied from it.

Quick and painless, and the lid can be secured until the squirrels get used to jumping on it.


48 posted on 01/12/2010 9:42:20 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: chris37
It is a violation of the law. If anyone reports you, police will come.

Depends on the city. Where I live, there is no law on the books regarding pellet guns within the city limits.

49 posted on 01/12/2010 9:46:55 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: chris37
--I'm thinking about getting a Whisper--where I live in the summer there is an inexhaustable supply of bugs, wasps, etc.,

--if you can hit a grasshopper offhand at twenty-five feet you are deadly on anything "real"--

50 posted on 01/12/2010 9:47:08 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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