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Aaaaack! Firefox follow-up.
Me. | Sat, Jan 16, 2010 | DGHoodini

Posted on 01/16/2010 2:56:04 AM PST by DGHoodini

So, this is a follow up. To Recap, I had been having problems with Firefox freezing up on me, and the problem seemed to get worse with each new update. I tried several things, didn't work. I tried Apples browser, was nice in some wais, but had a pretty lame viddo player and no easy way to change it. I tried Opera, which was more robust in many ways, and allowed for a relatively easy substitution of WMP, for the default one, but had other features that weren't as good as Firefoxes, one being the rigid bookmarks A to Z display.

Well, about 3 or 4 days ago, I tried a suggestion made by one or more posters to the last thread, that the problems I was having, may have been caused by Add-Ins that were not worjkking well wwith thhe newer versions of FF. I wasn't really al,l thathopeful that it would make a difference, but with having to shut down FF in Task Manager *first* before I could start it up again, every time I wanted to surf, I was willing to try anyting. So I disabled all my Add-ins except one, that i've been using "forever", and sat back to see what impact it had.

To my delighted and gratful surprise, it's been several days of surfing, without a single freeze-up!

Eventually, I shall probably add back the Add-ins I disabled, one by one, til I find the culprit, but right now, I'm just happy to have FireFox working like the Firefox I've grown to love!

(BIG smile!)

>8oD


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: firefox; freezingup; notresponding

1 posted on 01/16/2010 2:56:07 AM PST by DGHoodini
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To: DGHoodini

Oh, and BTW: Thanks all!...for the help! 8)


2 posted on 01/16/2010 2:59:54 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: DGHoodini
Eventually, I shall probably add back the Add-ins I disabled, one by one, til I find the culprit, but right now, I'm just happy to have FireFox working like the Firefox I've grown to love!

That's the way to do it. Congrats!

3 posted on 01/16/2010 3:02:16 AM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: DGHoodini
Were you running an anti-virus program when you loaded Firefox or any of its updates.

Even if you weren't, you might try a reload of Firefox from scratch. And make sure your anti-virus is turned off for the reload.

4 posted on 01/16/2010 3:03:41 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: "Always doing the opposite of what needs to be done!")
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To: DGHoodini

While I like Firefox, I had to pretty much quit using it.
It seems to suffer from memory leaks, or something.
It slows to a crawl after being on a long time.
I removed most plugins and that seems to help.
The problems got worse with every upgrade.

I am now trying Google Chrome. It seems nice.


5 posted on 01/16/2010 3:08:58 AM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

&es, was running McCaffe, but problems solved now. At least it is, until I discover that i need one of the Add-ins that causes to problem to re-occur.


6 posted on 01/16/2010 3:10:05 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: AlexW

Here’s a thought to consider, I *did* notice that when I was using Task Manager to shut FF down when it froze up, that FF had literally grabbed close to a quarter of my RAM. So, perhaps it’s not FF that is hogging your memory, but one of the add-ins...Geez! Sound like a convert, don’t I? 8o)


7 posted on 01/16/2010 3:14:40 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: DGHoodini
Add-ins are usually the problem, from personal experience.

I've also had to regress to an earlier FF version, which works fine -- my laptop's getting old.

8 posted on 01/16/2010 3:21:57 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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While I love firefox, I’ve switched to Chrome for a while. I especially like it on my Acer Aspire with the smaller processor and memory.
Chrome is having occasional problems, but it only requires a browser restart. It’s so much faster, it’s worth the hassle. I had to wait until XMarks worked with it though. I must have Xmarks and an adblocker.


9 posted on 01/16/2010 3:39:49 AM PST by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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To: DGHoodini

If I was to move away from IE, to say FF, would I lose Media Player? I have many WMA files that I play often. Does FF or others play WMA? My machine is old and short on memory, but I get by.


10 posted on 01/16/2010 4:07:36 AM PST by rightly_dividing
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To: DGHoodini

My wife leaves her pc on 24/7 and U have to restart Firefox every morning. I use Opera and it never freezes up on me but it also doesn’t run some web pages so I have to run them in IE. I personally don’t like FF and won’t run it.


11 posted on 01/16/2010 4:18:44 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Ok, I’m having the same problem. However, I’m not as computer-worldly as many of you are and as such, I have no idea what you mean by “add-ins.” Could somebody explain this to me and let me know how I can get rid of them? I’m using Windows XP, by the way.


12 posted on 01/16/2010 4:20:57 AM PST by bobby cep (Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Sarah!)
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To: rightly_dividing

No, not at all. Firefox can accomodate WMP as it’s default player. In fact it is and has been my default Media player almost since I first loaded Firefox onto my system. Got all my WMP functionality, and iTu nres as well. Got all my WinAmp functionality and files at a couple of clicks access as well. Having one browswer does not mean it wil cause you to lose the fubctionality of other programs. That was what surprised me abour Apples default player, was there was not an easy way to make a different player the default player...Though I’m pretty sure that with a little wrangling of the Windows set-up, even that would be possible.

Btrowswers are not an “either /or” choice. I’ve had at least 3 different browswers on my system at one time.


13 posted on 01/16/2010 4:21:32 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: DGHoodini

Not to gloat but that was my suggestion!


14 posted on 01/16/2010 4:22:40 AM PST by relictele
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To: bobby cep

Hmm...If you don’t know what add ons are, I’m inclined to think you haven’t added any. but in case someone else uses your PC and *has*:

Look on your menu bar, and you will see a button labeled ‘Tools’ click on it, to get it’s drop down menu,, and I believe that it will be the third one down, that is labeled ‘Add-Ons. Click that, and you will get a pop up dialog box that lists the Add Ons that are installed, and give you options to either disable or remove each one.


15 posted on 01/16/2010 4:27:13 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: relictele

Well, Thank you kindly, my beneficient fellow FReeper! ;o)


16 posted on 01/16/2010 4:30:09 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: DGHoodini

I use Chrome, it is Lean and Mean... Too bad its a Google product..


17 posted on 01/16/2010 4:33:10 AM PST by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: bobby cep
I dumped both FF and XP long ago.

Windows 7 is the ultimate, and Vista ran great with IE. All OS problems come when one downloads non compatible browsers, etc, and especially run poorly when they are “upgraded”. Mainly because of all the baggage and garbage they squeeze on under cover, from all the side companies they are in bed with.

I simply dump all parasite add-ons when I upgrade. They are purely annoying and unwanted and a good way to mess up your system.

18 posted on 01/16/2010 4:41:06 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Big Giant Head
I'm using Chrome as well, which I switched to from FireFox. (Of course, it also helps to have a PC built in this century, with appropriate speed and memory. I've noticed that my older PC’s act like it.)
19 posted on 01/16/2010 4:42:41 AM PST by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: Paradox

Different strokes...:o)

If it does what you want it to do, the way you like it to do it...Much of these preferences are about what one gets used to..IMO.

But, I’ve grown accustomed to Firefoxes’ interface...as it were. ...I know where everything is, and don’t have to think about it to do most any task I want to do.


20 posted on 01/16/2010 4:44:20 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: AlexW

>>While I like Firefox, I had to pretty much quit using it.
It seems to suffer from memory leaks, or something.<<

Although I am a big firefox fan, I’ve noticed sometimes it is using almost a gig of memory. I’ll shut it down and start from scratch.

Heck, I just checked and it is using 646 meg. I then closed all my tabs except for this one and it is using 645 meg now. actually it is bouncing between 643 and 648 meg. It’s like working with windows 95. I had to reboot my computer every other day to clear my memory being reserved by memory leaks.

I may want to give chrome a try after all.


21 posted on 01/16/2010 4:53:07 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

BTW, I have no add-in’s other than things like flash player.


22 posted on 01/16/2010 4:53:58 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

It was worse than I thought. I closed firefox and my memory usage went from 1.5 gig to 330 meg.

Now firefox is using 50 meg. Looks like I will be needing to shut it down regularly and restart.


23 posted on 01/16/2010 5:02:27 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: DGHoodini
Thanks for the insight.I am always cautious about puttting anything new on my laptop, especially anything free from the internet. Both myself and my laptop are short on memory, and are slow functioning, not needing any more impediments.

On another note, is there any place on the net where I can learn more about computer tech stuff on a beginners level? Most sites are so far over my head that I dont understand anything past the title, and sometimes that too.

24 posted on 01/16/2010 5:04:11 AM PST by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing

I can’t think of any specific dite, offhand. But there are plenty...at least there used to be. I’m sure if you Googled it, or whatever search engine you use, you’d find plenty to choose from.


25 posted on 01/16/2010 5:12:49 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: DGHoodini
Inspired by your title:


26 posted on 01/16/2010 5:12:53 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

That’s *exactly* what I felt like when I began the first thread! :oD


27 posted on 01/16/2010 5:14:33 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I see you have found the answer. IE might be slightly slower than some of the 3rd parties, but when you run the OS and Browsers cleans under VISTA or W7, everything is much more stable and reliable...

FWIW most new systems are plenty fast enough that unless you are sitting right next to the web server or have a T1 connection, you won't perceive most performance differences.

28 posted on 01/16/2010 5:32:22 AM PST by Woodman
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The other thing is that in Windows 7 IE8 each tab tuns in its own memory process, if one is misbehaving, all you need to do is shut it down.


29 posted on 01/16/2010 5:38:35 AM PST by Woodman
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To: DGHoodini

My “problem” with FireFox is that when you hit an apostrophe, it is the same as hitting CTRL-F (it brings up find). The “fix” for it is to delete the recent history, then it works OK. But WHY can’t they fix this one ... its been around through about 3 updates!


30 posted on 01/16/2010 8:35:42 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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