Skip to comments.Man accidentally lights himself on fire in Newark cleaning motorcycle parts
Posted on 01/16/2010 11:45:07 AM PST by Chet 99
NEWARK -- A man was in critical condition Friday night when he accidentally lit himself on fire with a cigarette while cleaning motorcycle parts and unintentionally splashed himself with gasoline, authorities said.
The incident occurred at 7:57 p.m. at a residence on 14th Avenue near South 19th Street where a man was cleaning motorcycle parts when he splashed himself with gasoline, said Newark Fire Chief Michael Lalor.
He then lit a cigarette and accidentally lit himself on fire, Lalor said. Relatives rushed over and put the flames out.
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Did he ask his buddy to hold his beer before he lit the cigarette?
Some people wake up to a brand new world everyday.
I use kerosene to clean parts with....far less volitile than gasoline....
However, I’ve used gas in a pinch.....
But when I do, I make sure I’m outside and away from any ignition source.....If I splash some on my clothes I leave them outside to air out......Any rags used are also left outside.....
Sigh....I bet this guy still runs with sissors....
Motorcyclists aren’t optimized on brains - particularly those that work on their own bikes using gasoline as a solvent. (I do ride a motorcycle.)
I wouldn’t want him riding next to me.
I don’t, won’t and never have had to use gasoline as a solvent. I have one more rule for anyone helping me. Drinking is okay when tearing her down and completely unacceptable while putting her back together. Works for me. ;>)
I always used gasoline, and never kerosene - primarily because it's harder to get kerosene. Right now, for example, I have no clue who sells it nearby, but I have a pretty good idea where to get gasoline :-) And I always have about 3 gal of gasoline for my garden tools, so it's easy to access.
But one thing you need to watch for, besides fire, is gasoline poisoning. It enters through skin easily. But it is an excellent solvent for car/motorcycle work, and it is cheap, and it evaporates quickly. I don't smoke, so fire was never a serious danger.
Almost a Darwin award nominee.
One thing that alot DIYs don’t realize is that any “safe” petroleum based solvent commonly used for parts cleaning can become highly volatile if the temperature of the solvent is raised even a few degrees. I found this out firsthand the hard way on a drilling rig one starry night out in west Texas. Yup.
Light a man a fire and he’ll be warm for a day, but light him on fire, and he’ll be warm the rest of his life.
Next on the “List of stupid things to do: “I think I’ll get drunk and clean my gun collection’’.
I am a Firefighter and am in charge of a lot of our public education curriculum including elementary and middle school programs. One of the big things I try to educate on is not using gasoline for lighting fires as it is just too dangerous. Kerosene is a much safer choice. One of the demonstrations I do is dropping a lit match into a beaker of kerosene because it doesn’t start on fire. I also do the same thing with gasoline and it always lights right up. I also happen to keep a gallon of kerosene in my garage for aid in starting campfires and occasionally cleaning mechanical things. Additionally I would like to mention a supply of medical exam type gloves are great to have around to keep your hands free from solvents which always seem to leave residue and smell on unprotected body parts.
Thanks for using this man’s misfortune to tell us all how intelligent YOU are.
While almost all petrleum based solvents are flamable, gasoline is in it’s own class......
I won’t store it in my house or garage....
I have a separate cabinet outside the house about 30 feet away from the structure with charcol starter etc.........
It’s treated like a low grade explosive....
You are a fireman and you throw a lighted match into gasoline? What exactly are you trying to demonstrate.
Bets are it wasn’t the brightest move by this cyclist and probably and luckily won’t be the last.
Great. And a million dollars worth of medical treatments and disability payments later, he’ll be almost good as new and ready to resume his life of doing unspeakably stupid things. And you and I will be paying the tab, through some combination of taxes and higher “private” insurance premiums.
Seriously, if people were left to deal with the financial and or lack-of-treatment fallout of stupidity like this, there would be a lot less of it, because there would be a lot more cultural awareness of what sorts of “accidents” devastate a family financially and devastate individual people who don’t have the financial resources to pay for more than minimal medical treatment after something like this.
Another failing grade on an IQ test.
It’s a small beaker with a little bit of gasoline in the bottom. The beaker has a wide top so it is not explosive, like a gun barrel would be. By the way we also do a demonstration with a drop of gasoline in a plexiglass tube where we turn the lights off and light it on one end. It’s a cool light show. Comes from an old “Chemistry of Fire” program.
Sorry, I digressed and neglected to answer your question directly in the last post.
We have two beakers one with gasoline the other with kerosene. I first light a match and ask the kids what will happen when I drop it into the kerosene. Typically they expect it to light. The kerosene at room temperature actually douses the flame. Then I do the same thing with gasoline with a different result in that the vapors light up with the match. Then we put the beaker of kerosene above a burner and bring the temperature of the liquid up to it’s autoignition point somewhere around 200 degrees, drop the lit match in and this time there is fire. What we are demonstrating is the differences in ignition points and autoignition points in hydrocarbons.
The bottom line I’m trying to impress upon the kids is that gasoline is extremely dangerous and volatile at room temperature and actually at just about any natural environmental temperature. Kerosene which is similar to diesel is much safer.
The reason for these demo’s is fire safety. A lot of kids get burned every year using gasoline to torch things. I’m showing them how unpredictable, volatile and dangerous gasoline is. Of course I also show a couple videos and pictures of what happens to burn victims.
FYI: This is something we do with the 8th grade program not the elementary kids. They get a puppet show.
Your welcome...but we all know it’s all about you.....
Now there is a grouping of words I never expected to see on FR!
I’m a rider too. I’ve found I ride entirely differently when on a cruiser vs a crotch rocket. Sometimes I like to describe myself as “Old enough to know better, still too young to care.”
Flashpoint is 100-140F depending on additives while the autoignition is over 400*F.
I’ll take your word for it. I’m working off memory here, my class notes are in my office. The point of course is that Kerosene has to be heated to “light up” Gasoline goes off easy. The beakers and bunsen burners do a good job of showing this.
Walmart.........10 dollars a gal.
Gee thanks Eagle Eye. There ya go with the name calling again. Add misquoting to your list of transgressions against me. I did not say I use gasoline for cleaning. In fact I mentioned that it’s too dangerous for such things instead I keep kerosene for that purpose, it’s much safer. Whatever you have against me you should get over it. This is a forum for people to have discussions. You are simply trying to intimidate me. Please don’t bother me anymore I’ve had enough of you.
My apologies. I misread and saw gasoline where you had clearly put kerosene.
After seeing several of your posts I've developed the default position that you are wrong, as you normally are, and are one of those that are spring loaded in the wrong position.
Please don’t bother me and keep your comments about me to yourself. Calling me a “DumFk” on this string was entirely unprovoked and uncalled for. Your apology can not be accepted as legitimate and only half-hearted at best as you had to in your next sentence get your little dig in. Again, leave me alone. Find a better pursuit for your time. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if you would take the time to read what I’ve posted previously, in it’s entirety, you will probably find that we agree more than we disagree. But, once more, just leave me alone.
I apologized for misquoting and that was it.
The best way to ensure that I don’t make fun of your mistakes is to check what you post before you post it. But the fact is that you posts have mistakes and I’m not the only one that calls you on them.
Portraying yourself as an authority on flammables because you’re supposedly a fireman then you post wrong info regarding flammability puts your credibility at stake. Well it would if you had any. Damn, man, I knew the flashpoint of kerosene off the top of my head but had to consult MSDS for the autoignition point.
Do you actually respond to fires or do you just babysit the firehouse when the firemen are out fighting fires?
Oh, that was rhetorical, don’t feel obligated to respond.
I think demonstrating to kids how to make a “cool light show” with matches and gasoline is probably one of the reasons that you and your fire fighter freinds are necessary.
Well I’ll suggest that you’re taking it a little out of context. It’s not like I’m showing kids how to create IED’s. We are demonstrating the differences between different hydrocarbons. In the process of giving a “Chemistry of Fire” education we also sneak in our fire safety messages. I’ve received nothing but positive comments from the teachers and parents. Our City has been doing this program for about 20 years and we have very few juvenille fire starter issues. We manage to get into every middle school in our City and I spend 3 days with the kids going over this curriculum during their Science class. It might be a poor analogy (you decide) but teaching sex-ed in PE class doesn’t necessarily make kids pregnant. Oh or how’s this one, spoons don’t make Oprah fat. As a matter of fact one of the questions I ask the kids when we start out is “Who has ever used a lighter and lit up an aerosol spray? WD-40, Axe body spray, etc.” The answer by show of hands at the 8th grade level is consistently at or near 100 percent. I like to show the kids why they should not do this. This is done through our demo’s and some video’s, which are pretty heart-wrenching.
The way I’ve looked at it is if I can get through to these kids not to use gasoline to start campfires, put it into squirt guns and light the stream or any number of other crazy stunts, that’s one of the big goals. Kerosene is much safer for starting camp fires by the way.
OK, you’re the pro. I appreciate your taking the time to respond. I’ll admit that if I saw your demo I would have a different opinion. It just sounded a little scary to me and I was an eigth grader so I know what you’re talking about. We did some dangerous things for “kicks”. Lucky we weren’t hurt badly. My mom was burned, third degree. She carried the scars for fifty years.
Volunteer, I believe.
As a member of the National Fire Prevention Association and a professional member of the American Society of Safety Engineers I am appalled at what he has boasted of doing, especially in light of an abundance of errors in his other posts.
Your common sense told you what he was doing was wrong, didn't it? Sadly, teachers and parents will often reluctantly go along with whatever cops and firemen tell them even when it defies logic and common sense.
You got banned.
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