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TEXAS GOP candidates clash in final TV debate (Vanity)

Posted on 01/30/2010 7:24:10 AM PST by Dubya

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To: willyd

It is a lie.

Registration would involve make, model and serial number. Further, unlike Medina I have a CHL and fill out nothing.

Lying about settled law is not going to get this thermometer pusher a single vote in Texas.

Note, this thread for example, you Medinabots have had your asses handed to you in no uncertain terms. Rather than gaining support you have lost even more.

Good job!


51 posted on 01/30/2010 8:18:59 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: mnehring

Thanks for that link.


52 posted on 01/30/2010 8:19:09 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: humblegunner; jla
Well, you need a class 3 license for fully automatic weapons.

A rather simple process and only $200.00.

53 posted on 01/30/2010 8:20:22 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: eastforker
The US Constitution needs to be amended disallowing any taxes, levies, fees, etc. on all property, in particularly land.

Funds for public schools could be acquired by a local, flat-rate tax on income, of which the % must be approved by the locales electorate.

54 posted on 01/30/2010 8:21:22 AM PST by jla
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To: willyd

You don’t know what you are talking about. A CHL is not gun registration. Neither is the 4473 form as it stays with the dealer. The NCIS background check is not legally allowed to be kept in records.

There is no gun registration in Texas.


55 posted on 01/30/2010 8:21:53 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: Dubya

When in doubt get yer pom-poms out!

Whoo - Hooo

Medina is number one!
Medina is full of number two!


56 posted on 01/30/2010 8:26:33 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: Dubya

No way. She is a vote splitter and will only get us another Democrat. Geez, don’t you think Texas is turning blue enough?


57 posted on 01/30/2010 8:32:59 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: humblegunner
If it walks like a nurse and talks like a nurse, it's funky cold Medina.

A slur of all nurses and patriots. You're not a real Texan, you probably have never even been there. So, how is the weather in BOSTON today, troll?

58 posted on 01/30/2010 8:34:12 AM PST by jla
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To: jla

LOL!


59 posted on 01/30/2010 8:35:40 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: eastforker

Medina is in over her head and has no clue what she is talking about.
Elimination of property taxes would be nice, but so far she
hasn’t provided any workable alternative.

Goose Creek ISD wants almost twice as much as Harris county.
It would be great if those who actually have a USE for the school could pay for it.

And my damn homestead exemption didn’t kick in until this year.


60 posted on 01/30/2010 8:38:52 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: jla; Eaker
So, how is the weather in BOSTON today, troll?

Pretty cold, but nice and toasty here in the ACORN troll-post office.

We got donuts with the daily talking point sheets.

Yay!

61 posted on 01/30/2010 8:40:53 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Dubya

It is not registration. Not even close. The form you fill out when you buy one new is the end. You take the gun home,, play around with it a little, and decide you don’t want it after all. You can then legally sell it to a friend or stranger with no paperwork.

You have no requirement to notify you sold it. The friend has no obligation to notify the government that he has accquired it. The government has no list to point to that they can then demand you account for the whereabouts of any gun.

That is what registration looks like.


62 posted on 01/30/2010 8:41:26 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: humblegunner; jla
And my damn homestead exemption didn’t kick in until this year.

Because of the midget or because yer a homo from Boston?

63 posted on 01/30/2010 8:42:02 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: Eaker; jla

Because the retard who filed it in 2009 didn’t realize
it does not cover the year in which the filing occurs.

Glad I ain’t married to her any more.


64 posted on 01/30/2010 8:44:54 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: eastforker

With a sales tax everyone would have to pay, not just property owners. Illegals would have to pay for the schools they use.


65 posted on 01/30/2010 8:47:17 AM PST by agondonter
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To: mnehring

“she scolded KBH for not voting for Sotomayor”

Typical,, KBH voted with the leftist women when tailhook came up,, now Medina won’t diss a hispanic,,, so i guess it’d be hunky-dory for me to say vote for Perry, so we don’t alienate the white male vote?


66 posted on 01/30/2010 8:47:43 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: wild74

Medina supports a sales tax. With sales tax everyone pays, not just property owners. Illegals would be paying for the schools they use.


67 posted on 01/30/2010 8:48:47 AM PST by agondonter
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To: humblegunner
Maybe Medina could take some campaigning tips from Hillary.


68 posted on 01/30/2010 8:49:06 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: wild74

Medina supports a sales tax. With sales tax everyone pays, not just property owners. Illegals would be paying for the schools they use.


69 posted on 01/30/2010 8:49:18 AM PST by agondonter
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To: willyd

you do not have to list the specific gun for a concealed carry license,, the license says you can carry one. It does not say you own one,,, Medina was a moron to say this.


70 posted on 01/30/2010 8:50:40 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: agondonter
Illegals would be paying for the schools they use.

Illegals pay property tax when they pay rent and should be kicked out anyway.

Note, I am only going to respond once.

71 posted on 01/30/2010 8:51:53 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: Eaker

72 posted on 01/30/2010 8:57:45 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Zhang Fei; All
How does she plan to fund state and local expenditures?

Sell our illegal Mexicans to China, and rent back our northern Yankee population as slave labor to the agricultural markets which are depopulated by the Mexican selling/expulsion.

Think it'll work?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

73 posted on 01/30/2010 9:17:22 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: agondonter
I will support Medina if she gets the nod, but Rick Perry I think will win and will slaughter White in Nov. It is true that a sales tax would hit everyone but I think property taxes are hitting everyone as it is, if Illegals are renting the owner is paying property taxes. I would have to have it explained to me how a sales tax would work because I live in Texas right next to Shreveport I would just go over there and shop because of lower sales taxes, people stuck in the inner part of Texas couldn't do that. I think in the long run a sales tax would hurt Texas
74 posted on 01/30/2010 9:59:36 AM PST by wild74
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To: Eaker
A Firearms Transaction Record, or Form 4473, is a United States government form that must be filled out when a person purchases a firearm from a Federal Firearm License holder (such as a gun shop). The Form 4473 contains name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, make/model/serial number of the firearm, and a short federal affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. Lying on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied by the NICS. The dealer also records all information from the Form 4473 into their "bound-book". A dealer must keep this log the entire time they are in business and is required to surrender the log to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to inspect, as well as request a copy of the Form 4473 from the dealer during the course of a criminal investigation. In addition, the sale of two or more handguns to a person in a five day period must be reported to ATF on Form 3310.4. If a person purchases a firearm from a private individual who is not a licensed dealer, the purchaser is not required in most states to complete a Form 4473, though some states force individual sellers to sell through dealers. These forms are given the same status as a tax return under the Privacy Act of 1974 and cannot be disclosed by the government to private parties or other government officials except in accordance with the Privacy Act. Individual dealers possessing a copy of the form are not subject to the Privacy Act's restrictions on disclosure. Dealers are required to maintain completed forms for 20 years in the case of completed sales and 5 years where the sale was denied by the NICS check coming back disapproved or other disqualifying information. I am not sure how you could say that form 4473 doesn't qaulify as registration.
75 posted on 01/30/2010 10:43:27 AM PST by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: Eaker
A Firearms Transaction Record, or Form 4473, is a United States government form that must be filled out when a person purchases a firearm from a Federal Firearm License holder (such as a gun shop).

The Form 4473 contains name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, make/model/serial number of the firearm, and a short federal affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. Lying on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied by the NICS.

The dealer also records all information from the Form 4473 into their "bound-book".

A dealer must keep this log the entire time they are in business and is required to surrender the log to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to inspect, as well as request a copy of the Form 4473 from the dealer during the course of a criminal investigation. In addition, the sale of two or more handguns to a person in a five day period must be reported to ATF on Form 3310.4.

If a person purchases a firearm from a private individual who is not a licensed dealer, the purchaser is not required in most states to complete a Form 4473, though some states force individual sellers to sell through dealers.

These forms are given the same status as a tax return under the Privacy Act of 1974 and cannot be disclosed by the government to private parties or other government officials except in accordance with the Privacy Act. Individual dealers possessing a copy of the form are not subject to the Privacy Act's restrictions on disclosure. Dealers are required to maintain completed forms for 20 years in the case of completed sales and 5 years where the sale was denied by the NICS check coming back disapproved or other disqualifying information.

I am not sure how you could say that form 4473 doesn't qaulify as registration.

76 posted on 01/30/2010 10:45:51 AM PST by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: mnehring

Is talking legal Hispanics or illegals? Legal, I have no problem with and I’d heard she was against illegals.


77 posted on 01/30/2010 10:53:40 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: willyd

The Form 4473 is not tracked and the firearm at any tine can be sold or disposed of with no notification to anyone.

It is bullshit, but it is NOT registration.


78 posted on 01/30/2010 11:31:25 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: willyd

It doesn’t much matter as Medina can’t do a damn thing about Form 4473 anyway.

We are just pointing out that she doesn’t know what she is talking about.


79 posted on 01/30/2010 12:07:28 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: Eaker

If it isn’t tracked then why does the ATF require the dealer to return the records to them instead of say ... destroying them?

I think you are being naive if you are arguing that recording a person’s name, address, social, make, model, serial number, background check etc. at the time of purchase and requiring it to be accessible for inspection does not constitute registration.

To put it another way, if you were going to require registration for new guns, what information would you put on the form that isn’t already mentioned? If the answer is nothing, then you are staring at a registration form my friend.


80 posted on 01/30/2010 12:08:44 PM PST by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: willyd

I would add that the firearm could not be disposed of other than by a Licensed Federal agency and that the weapon cannot be transferred except by a Federal Firearm License holder.

That is what I would add.

A whole lot more than nothing isn’t it?

A little off topic but does Medina actually have any experience or qualifications that would possibly make me consider voting for her?

No, I thought not.


81 posted on 01/30/2010 12:17:23 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: willyd

I see you missed post# 79.


82 posted on 01/30/2010 12:18:13 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: Eaker

Who is “we”? You and the other paid Perry supporters?


83 posted on 01/30/2010 12:22:37 PM PST by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: willyd; mnehring; humblegunner
Who is “we”? You and the other paid Perry supporters?

Wee willy cracked under the pressure!

LOL!

Hey Paul/Medinabot, the cheerleaders aren't supposed to make the fans dislike their own teammates. I bet that the word "FAIL" is going to be someshere on your tombstone someday.

84 posted on 01/30/2010 12:29:14 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: willyd; Eaker
Who is “we”? You and the other paid Perry supporters?

Don't knock it.. $1000 per comment, $4500 per article. I think I've pulled in around ten grand today.

85 posted on 01/30/2010 1:32:54 PM PST by mnehring
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What choice do we have?

Medina ad:

“Who is going to think more about Latino families? Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison or me, who has a Latino family?” (Medina’s cultural heritage is German and Bohemian.)

She told a colleague last month in an e-mail. “Being married, however, to someone with a Mexican American heritage, I certainly embrace the culture.” But before she explained that, she told my colleage, who had asked her whether she considers herself Latina: “I’d not consider myself anything other than a wife and mother, a nurse and a patriot. I believe we too often get into race when it’s immaterial.”

No, Thanks, Mrs Medina.

She is also running Spanish ads. Hello Mrs.Medina! If they cannot speak English then they have no business voting IMO. When they learn English then let them vote. Assimilate. Learn English. Appreciate all America gives you.

So I’m sure she is blowing a lot of hot air just like Obama did just to get elected. Running those ads and saying what she has, tells me the border issue is just a try to get votes for herself.

No, thanks, I’ll stick with ‘ol RINO Perry. Texas has remained in better shape than almost any if not all of the states in the union under Perry's watch. As someone said, 'he's the devil we know'.

The motly crew running for governor is laughable; a MUSLIM, a trecherous RINO woman* (Hutchison) and a woman with questionable loyalties

*Feds Have Built Only 32 Miles of 700 Mile Double-Border Fence Originally Mandated by Congress “One reason DHS has been able to do this is an amendment that Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R.-Texas) slipped into an omnibus appropriations bill that Congress passed on December 18, 2007. Hutchison’s amendment put a loophole in the fence law that allowed the secretary of Homeland Security not to build the fence Congress had mandated the year before.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/43422

86 posted on 02/02/2010 6:43:44 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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