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*VIDEO* Analysis of the Spiritual Symbolism in Lady Gaga Music Video
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Posted on 01/31/2010 2:43:26 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

Considering her influence in our culture and international iconic status, I believe the messages behind her art warrants this level of analysis. The power of images should never be underestimated and I am quite impressed with what the video's author uncovered. Any discerning believer with a heart for the greater culture would benefit from watching this. As the saying goes, "the devil's in the details." Be sure to click the link.

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I don't think it's right for Christians to make blanket statements about all things in the greater culture as things to be shunned and avoided, but at the same time, we shouldn't underestimate the level of demonic forces at work in our world.

I don't think that all these entertainers of stature willfully go into things thinking their doing the work of Satan. Many are obviously deceived and become enslaved by it. Interestingly, the man who directed the Lady Gaga video being discussed also directed a very symbol-ridden video for the recording artist, Britney Spears--for the song aptly titled "I'm a SLAVE for you." Satan robs people of their God-given talents and enslaves them into drawing undiscerning masses of people to himself. I think it's worth noting how he does it and the level of artistry behind it.

Gaga's actual music video is approaching 100,000,000 (yes 100 million) views and counting.

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." ~ Ephesians 6:12

1 posted on 01/31/2010 2:43:28 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“her influence in our culture and international iconic status”

LOL


2 posted on 01/31/2010 2:46:54 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’ve read that she is actually a he. Anyone know if this is true?


3 posted on 01/31/2010 2:50:39 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Zero should spend all his time playing golf & keep his Marxist, Muzzie, Homo hands off our country)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Wait for a Gaga Studies elective to be added to a sociology department at a university near you.

A la Madonna’s burning crosses video of twenty years back, it’s all a labored attempt to be transgressive, etc. I would be interested in knowing more about her costume/set/choreography design staff and how they work.

When she sticks a muslim crescent up her hoo-hoo, get back to me.


4 posted on 01/31/2010 2:52:26 PM PST by sinanju
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To: icwhatudo

maybe not for YOUR generation...but for a lot of young people she’s incredibly influential. AND she, along with Barack Obama, recently spoke at a Homosexual Activism march in DC. Gaga promised to use her music and stature to fight for the LGBT community.

I found an article on FR a few days about a young girl in England who died accidentally hanging herself while she was dancing to Lady Gaga’s music. So yes, not saying Lady Gaga had anything to do with the girls’ actual death (obviously) but it’s an eerie reminder about how young much of her audience really is.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/8481941.stm


5 posted on 01/31/2010 2:53:21 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: proudofthesouth
I heard that he/she is a whack job.
6 posted on 01/31/2010 2:54:30 PM PST by jaz.357 ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." W.Churchill)
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To: proudofthesouth

She is not a he. I know someone who’s son dated her before she became “Lady Gaga.”


7 posted on 01/31/2010 2:57:01 PM PST by samsmom
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To: proudofthesouth

Heard she is a hermaphrodite.


8 posted on 01/31/2010 2:59:00 PM PST by SamiGirl
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

influence??

I never heard of him/her/it before this year. As far as I know.


9 posted on 01/31/2010 3:01:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: SamiGirl; samsmom
well that's part of her power...she glamorizes and promotes transsexuality and androgyny even without being a transsexual herself. she recently proclaimed herself spokesperson for their community.

"Lady Gaga Says God and Gays Made One Another."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-a2ZgHNz-o

10 posted on 01/31/2010 3:02:28 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I wonder what the native language of the narrator is? Obviously not English.


11 posted on 01/31/2010 3:02:47 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
If you play it backwards does Satan appear?
12 posted on 01/31/2010 3:04:38 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: samsmom; proudofthesouth; jaz.357

She has said she is a hermaphrodite.


13 posted on 01/31/2010 3:05:27 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: samsmom
Lady Gaga a.k.a. Stephani Germanotta. Alumna of the Convent of the Sacred Heart, NYC.

I am not making this up!

14 posted on 01/31/2010 3:05:56 PM PST by jaz.357 ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." W.Churchill)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

heart-breaking! :(


15 posted on 01/31/2010 3:08:55 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Be strip-searched by scanners! Buy ObamaCare or go to jail! The Totalitarians have taken over!!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
We are going to be periodically plagued with Madonna clones for the foreseeable future.
16 posted on 01/31/2010 3:11:50 PM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: proudofthesouth

At minimum, I am guessing that GaGa is at least hermaphroditic if not male. When watching the video, my DSL was streaming slowly and pausing and it froze GaGa when ‘she’ was being forced to drink Vodka. HUGE MALE NOSTRILS...never saw nostrils on a woman like that. With the head tilted back and glass of vodka held to ‘her’ mouth, the nostrils and line of the nose are male as is the pronounced brow. The brow is typically hidden/feminized with eyeshadow and contouring make up and photographed from eye level but at that angle (filmed from below the chin looking up the face), it’s certainly a masculine brow.


17 posted on 01/31/2010 3:14:55 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Touch Not the Cat

The difference is that Lady Gaga can sing! Madonna couldn’t - which is why they had to electronically alter her voice a lot of the time.


18 posted on 01/31/2010 3:15:06 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Be strip-searched by scanners! Buy ObamaCare or go to jail! The Totalitarians have taken over!!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I came of age during the punk era and I turned out okay even though that was Satanic, too. Every generation says that about the younger generation’s music and every generation thinks that their younger generation is so much “worse” than the one before. My grandparents thought Elvis was sent from Satan. Turns out, he was a nice Christian boy. Heck, I still listen to punk, about half of it Christian.

Cindie


19 posted on 01/31/2010 3:15:20 PM PST by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
>"If you play it backwards does Satan appear?

No but he gets the props in this one.

Thank You Satan 1:51

20 posted on 01/31/2010 3:16:56 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: ransomnote

There’s been photos around the internet of proof that lady Gaga is indeed a hermaphrodite. Of course, there’s also the loonie rag columnist Ian Halprin who says Angelina Jolie and Lady Gaga hooked up. The internet is a strange place sometimes.


21 posted on 01/31/2010 3:17:08 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: icwhatudo
Well the oral sex/double entendre of the song “Poker Face” is clear enough
22 posted on 01/31/2010 3:18:19 PM PST by tophat9000 (Obama has "Jumped The Shark" ...and fell in the shark tank)
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To: proudofthesouth
I’ve read that she is actually a he. Anyone know if this is true?

He/she actually has the plumbing for both.

It became very obvious in a Youtube video from one of her concerts where she gets off a motorcycle and as she swings her leg around, a crotch appendage becomes visible.

It is viewable at this URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Jt_JxGYn0

23 posted on 01/31/2010 3:24:57 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: gardencatz
Every generation says that about the younger generation’s music [that it's Satanic] and every generation thinks that their younger generation is so much “worse” than the one before.

That's a myth concocted to make people accept the trashy, morally subversive pop culture of today. Go back to the music of the 20s and 30s. You won't find Bing Crosby or Louis Armstrong glamorizing drugs (although LA used marijuana), using profanity, slandering their country, going nude on stage, or imitating sexual movements in their acts. There is nothing in our history remotely comparable to what is commonplace in entertainment today. It's a race to the bottom with today's so-called "artists."

24 posted on 01/31/2010 3:25:46 PM PST by hellbender
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To: tophat9000

I just read the lyrics now, and her explanation of them. I liked the song better before I knew what the lyrics were. Her lyrics, and manner of speaking, and subject matter are — how shall I say it? — rough.


25 posted on 01/31/2010 3:27:06 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Be strip-searched by scanners! Buy ObamaCare or go to jail! The Totalitarians have taken over!!)
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To: capt. norm

Thanks. I watched the video. “She” looks like a guy in drag.


26 posted on 01/31/2010 3:29:09 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Zero should spend all his time playing golf & keep his Marxist, Muzzie, Homo hands off our country)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This is the LIE that’s perpetrated upon our young people. This type of stuff & Adam Lambert & all the others like him & Lady GaGa are destroying the culture of our society


27 posted on 01/31/2010 3:39:18 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

*sigh* - The sad thing is that there are people who would make such blanket statements as “sex is wrong”... how did they get here then? If sex is wrong, why did God “make them male and female”? Sure there’s a time and a place for things, and often we fail to discern the correct time/places.

So let my refuting begin:
- While it is true that Satan can appear to be a being of light and as such _might_ be depicted by the sun it is also true, and much more common, for the sun to denote/symbolize a beginning or end as in sunrise & sunset.
- Haus is merely German for ‘house.’
- The refrence to Lady Gaga being a god-like figure because she is sitting on a throne is a bit of a stretch when it is more likely that the director (who said he was going for a sort of futuristic Russian bath-house) was thinking of a monarch.
- To say that the bath is symbolic of washing her sins away is to ignore that people ACTUALLY take baths for the physical-body’s sake.
- To imply that large eyes denote ONLY innocence is to ignore that large eyes ALSO are a symptom of arousal, and thusly the historic usage [by women] of belladonna to dilate the pupils.
- The feeling of betrayal by God is *gasp* common! (In Christians and non-Christians alike, at least at SOME point in their life.) Mother Theressa, it is said, had a long period of ‘drought.’
- ‘Vale’ is supposed to be ‘veil’
- The term ‘morning star’ is ALSO used throughout the New Testament in reference to Jesus the Christ [or perhaps Holy Spirit]; thus the “I will give him the Morning Star” (See: Revelation 2 :26-28 & 2 Peter 1:19 )
- Having a cat means you’re worshiping Horus, and therefore Satan? Wow, I must be quadruply damned with my cat and her three kittens.
- Joules are a unit of measure [energy]; JEWELS on the other hand are precious and semi-precious stones.
- Satan is known as the “Rain Man”? Where do you get that? In the sermon on the mount Jesus says that God sends the rain to the just and the unjust; are you implying that Satan and God are one? That IS, I’m fairly sure, a heresy.
- The cross is attached to a sash consisting of a thin-rope/thick-thread and just has the unfortunate (ass far as I can see) chance to dangle at the crotch... probably because any lower and it would be out of the shot altogether and any higher it would look off-center and therefore unbalanced.
- ‘Reseave’? I’m fairly sure you meant receive.
- “Why does Lady GaGa wear this costume?” you ask... I have no idea, why do any pop-stars wear ridiculous costumes in their videos?
- Red is a color associated with sin? Not really, passion perhaps; blood, definitely.
- Or, perhaps the dance becoming more lively is because the song is finishing or coming to a crescendo, perhaps?
- Actually there is a body left at the end; it’s the burned skeleton... or did you not see that?

All in all, I’m more inclined to say it’s just a[nother] “stupid pop music video” with no real hidden/deeper meanings.


28 posted on 01/31/2010 3:39:21 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rintense

I know I live a sheltered life - but I have never heard of this Gaga person or her/his songs and do not know what a “hermaphrodite” is - can you enlighten?

Whatever it/he/she is - it is not a surprise.

Satan is the prince of this world and the prince of the power of the air....but he is NOT the KING.....

That King is coming and satan and his minions=including Gaga, etc - if that’s what it/she/is promotes - will find that out soon enough.


29 posted on 01/31/2010 3:51:18 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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To: hellbender

Yeah because no one ever said those things about Jazz, flappers, or Speakeasy’s. And I’m sure that’s just a movie myth that there were so many illegal activities surrounding that era...all those machine gun drive-by’s never happened.

“When my grandmother found out that I was playing jazz in one of the sporting houses in the District, she told me that I had disgraced the family and forbade me to live at the house... She told me that devil music would surely bring about my downfall...” Jelly Roll Martin, one of our earliest Jazz musicians. PBS did a show called Culture Shock, one was about the beginnings of Jazz called The Devil’s Music: 1920’s Jazz”. Even the New York Times thought it was Satanic.

Like I said, every generation thinks the youth of their generation are going to Hell, more Satanic, corrupt, terrible, etc. If you listen to Jazz lyrics and it’s very NEW beat you can see why that generation would be shocked. They talked about many of the themes in music today, imagine that!

Cindie


30 posted on 01/31/2010 3:53:22 PM PST by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Female born with male genitalia.


31 posted on 01/31/2010 3:54:48 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Thanks for the well exposed retort. The phobia of seeing Satan everywhere is one of those tedious games played decade after decade. I’m not a big fan of most pop music, but at least Gaga is visually stimulating.


32 posted on 01/31/2010 3:56:48 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: OneWingedShark

“- Red is a color associated with sin? Not really, passion perhaps; blood, definitely.”

That one got me too...I just thought, well what does that make our flag?

Cindie


33 posted on 01/31/2010 3:57:29 PM PST by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: rintense

Eek. I didn’t even know such things occurred. Dumb? on this, yes.

(Thanks for the info...)


34 posted on 01/31/2010 3:58:27 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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To: Katya

>Thanks for the well exposed retort.

You’re welcome; I could have done more but I do have a tendency to wander off-topic if I let myself.


35 posted on 01/31/2010 4:08:54 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: gardencatz; mad_as_he$$
I was impressed with the video analysis because it wasn't commenting on Lady Gaga's sensual dance moves...that's something shared by virtually all entertainers (though the standards become looser with time obviously)...but the specific spiritual symbols with blatant occultic implications: crucifixes with occultic references underneath, egyptian cats, ram's heads, the bath house setting, etc...

The whole premise of the video's narrative consists of the battle between good and evil, with evil winning out. The "pure and innocent" Lady Gaga (dressed in white) gets force-fed vodka-potion by fallen angels and enters the "bad side" (she then dresses in black) wins out...

And that's just the beginning. The video was rich with symbolism and other references. Not your average pop video.

36 posted on 01/31/2010 4:09:45 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: OneWingedShark; Katya

I was impressed with the video analysis because it wasn’t commenting on Lady Gaga’s sensual dance moves...that’s something shared by virtually all entertainers (though the standards become looser with time obviously)...but the specific spiritual symbols with blatant occultic implications: crucifixes with occultic references underneath, egyptian cats, ram’s heads, the bath house setting, etc...

The whole premise of the video’s narrative consists of the battle between good and evil, with evil winning out. The “pure and innocent” Lady Gaga (dressed in white) gets force-fed vodka-potion by fallen angels and enters the “bad side” (she then dresses in black) wins out...

And that’s just the beginning. The video was rich with symbolism and other references. Not your average pop video.


37 posted on 01/31/2010 4:10:43 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

And how do you know this person’s interpretation is the “right” one? Could it not, as a poster suggested above, be open to different interpretations? Like poetry, literature or movies, different points of view of readers/viewers should be encouraged and expected. Maybe Lady GaGa’s (and I’m not a fan) reason for doing this was just to see how many people she could throw into a tizzy.

Cindie


38 posted on 01/31/2010 4:15:51 PM PST by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

>Eek. I didn’t even know such things occurred.

They are a rarity, all things considered.

>Dumb? on this, yes.

Me too, I’m sure a medical student would know more.


39 posted on 01/31/2010 4:17:14 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: gardencatz
Can you cite any popular song lyrics before the 1960s which were Satanic? Such things, along with openly occult visual elements, certainly began to erupt for the first time in the hippie rock music of that era. I'm talking about literal Satanism, not figurative. Today Satanism is almost a requirement in metal rock.

I lived through the beginning of rock n roll in the 50s. There were no lyrics glorifying Satan, or drugs, or communism in those days, I guarantee you. The whole cultural scene was downright corny and innocent by today's standards.

Yes, I know that much of jazz can be traced to whorehouses, but once it went mainstream there were only mildly suggestive lyrics, and again, no antipatriotic or Satanic lyrics. Even in raw old blues lyrics I don't hear explicit profanity, while today that is commonplace. No "pop musicians" pranced around the stage nude as does Flea today. Mainstream entertainment was not the same as the subculture of the slums back then. Today, some of the best-selling "artists" are straight from the slums, and wallow in flagrant use of the f-word, the n-word, the mf-word, incitements to violence, etc. etc.

40 posted on 01/31/2010 4:19:35 PM PST by hellbender
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To: gardencatz
HI gardencatz, I don't think Gaga had the intent of shocking anyone with this particular video actually (though obviously she does love shocking people.) This video was rather tame considering some of her other stuff. The symbolism is so subtle, only people with some sort of expertise in the field would catch the details and make the connections.

Therefore, the power of the video is in the *subconscious* impact it has more than anything else. I can't be sure if Gaga is evem aware of the meaning of all the symbols, but it's clear, the DIRECTOR does. He obviously has a strong knowledge of ancient spirituality, the Bible, and of occultic and Freudian concepts because he's incorporated them in several other major videos he's directed.

For me personally, it shows that there is demonic influence even behind seemingly harmless, light-hearted "pop" videos and that we can't underestimate the power these visual images can have on people subconsciously.

41 posted on 01/31/2010 4:29:38 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: hellbender

hellbender,

I posted this lady gaga analysis up because this particular video wasn’t your average piece of pop. it’s not about her sensual moves or explicit lyrics—but the blatant occultic, Freudian, ancient spiritual, and Biblical symbols incorporated into several of the video’s segments.

The symbolism is so subtle, only people with some sort of expertise in the field would catch the details and make the connections. (Things like ram’s heads, egyptian cats, crucifixes, bath houses, etc...) Therefore, the power of the video is in the *subconscious* impact it has more than anything else.

I can’t be sure if Gaga is evem aware of the meaning of all the symbols, but it’s clear, the DIRECTOR does. He obviously has a strong knowledge of ancient spirituality, the Bible, and of occultic and Freudian concepts because he’s incorporated them in several other major videos he’s directed.


42 posted on 01/31/2010 4:44:41 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: OneWingedShark

okay what about the ram’s heads on the wall, the crosses on the coffins, and the slot machine/auction scenes implying that she is being auctioned off aka “selling her soul?”

again, it’s those subtle, subconscious things..but I don’t think it’s conspiratorial to suggest the director has a knowledge of the occult because he incorporates blatant symbolism in other videos.


43 posted on 01/31/2010 4:57:22 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: proudofthesouth; icwhatudo; sinanju; samsmom; GeronL; SuzyQue; mad_as_he$$; jaz.357; ...

Here’s a video of one of her most famous performances. For anyone who still has doubts about the symbolism...That set is straight out of Tarot cards, the church-like organ music, and just witness the bloody, grotesque ending.

Again, not your average pop performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-hpv3BMQPA


44 posted on 01/31/2010 6:08:56 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

thanks for posting this it’s an excellent way for people to understand that this ISN’T REALLY music nor performance art


45 posted on 01/31/2010 6:39:57 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

>And that’s just the beginning. The video was rich with symbolism and other references.

I never said it didn’t have ANY symbolism; but there are some more I flatly disagree with:

The fire in the video was attributed to passion (esp. sexual) with the inference that the “selling her soul” [to the devil] is the reason there’s no body in the final shot; however there IS a body. It is the charred skeleton of whomever ‘won’ her, and if you remember around the time of the fire she was saying something along the lines of “I’m my own bitch.”

So, given the above the symbolism in question seems to be saying “I’m not about to be anyone’s property”/”I am self-deterministic”/”My will is my own.” {Biblically arguing against free will is hard, even impossible given that if there was no free-will God could not be Just and still punish us for sinning; as James says we sin when we are drawn away by lust, and when lust is conceived it brings sin.}

But back to the symbolism; given in the video is one of sight being related to innocent & sinful; with ‘blind’ being equated to trusting/obeying God. If that were accurate and consistent however, the ‘innocent’ in the bath-tub should have been completely blind. Furthermore, biblically speaking, blindness is associated with being spiritually lost or willfully ignorant where as ‘sight’ is associated with understanding (and even more generally relationship with God).

As for the cat/goat/crucifix thing I am of the opinion that they are relatively harmless props, much like the costumes. (Tasteful and/or appropriate is another debate.)

Then there is the question of how much of the video is hers [Lady Gaga] vs. others’s [director/publicist/producer, etc]; I have no idea how much control pop-stars have over their music videos and suspect that it varies greatly.


46 posted on 01/31/2010 6:48:38 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Ugh... the so called dronezak they're passing off as music nowadays.

I couldn't stand to listen to more than 45 sec. And what is with the Kabuki Jap dancing bunny suit Lip-syncing to that unintelligible tripe?

Thank you Lord! I don't get it!

47 posted on 01/31/2010 6:49:20 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

According to her in the Oprah interview it was all about Princess Di being hounded to death by the paparazzi. I wouldn’t give ol’ Steffi G. credit for studying symbolism enough to put it in her performances. Her target audience wouldn’t get anything out of it.


48 posted on 01/31/2010 7:08:16 PM PST by sinanju
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Thanks but I don’t have to watch that garbage to guess what it’s about.

Demonic influences in music and movies and the other arts in this country have gone on for a very long time and nothing that comes out surprises me.

Thanks.


49 posted on 01/31/2010 7:10:26 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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Yawn...Flash in the pan.

50 posted on 01/31/2010 9:29:37 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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